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Germany finds Bush 'baffling'(EUROTRASH ALERT)
Toronto Globe and Mail via AP | Monday, December 23

Posted on 12/24/2002 9:16:23 AM PST by Sparta

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To: Republic of Texas
I guess the 'ol moderator has had enough of parade's rants. He/she is ixnaying a lot of his posts. Euro-elites are maddening as hell, huh?
101 posted on 12/26/2002 9:07:31 AM PST by geedee
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To: Hunble
Our troops aren't in Germany to protect them. They are there to protect us and Europe from THEM.
102 posted on 12/26/2002 9:10:02 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: geedee
Darn, I wish they would not do that!

Like it or not, this is how today's German youth is thinking. By creating a dialog between each other, we can correct the lies that they are subjected to each day.

Deleting messages? Wow, that did a fantastic job!

There are times when the moderators end up doing more harm than good.

103 posted on 12/26/2002 9:13:54 AM PST by Hunble
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To: Sparta
Germany finds Bush 'baffling'

But Germany embraced Hitler.
104 posted on 12/26/2002 9:16:23 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Go Gordon
USA is the best country in the world. Its also the most giving nation on earth.

Ya know, I'm convinced it is THAT attitude that has not only made us the best country in the world but also so infuriates the other countries of the world.

BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S TRUE AS WELL AND THERE'S NOT A DAMN THING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT!!

I've spent a lot of time lately reviewing UK, Canadian, and German newspaper websites the past two weeks or so. If you ever have time, do that. You'll eventually see a common thread . . . ENVY!!

They're so pissed off at us because we're the best, we know we're the best, and, due to the American System and the American Way, we'll continue to be the best for a long, long time. Then, when you dig a little deeper, especially if you read the local "letters to the editor," you'll see that Canadians are bitching at their own government wanting them to change some parts of their system to ours. Same for the Brits and Germans. The citizens on a grassroot level want to emulate the 'ol U.S. of A. -- and that pisses off the Socialist-loving, know-it-all bureaucrats.

It's really kinda funny once you get a handle on it. The Government Toadies blast us on a constant basis, usually because they're being blasted in return for not being more like us. I guess they've decided it's easier and better for their egos to try and get us to join them as Socialists than it is to show some courage and reform their own failed systems.

I suspect France is even worse . . . but the French are so egotistical they don't have many English websites this simple Texan can read.

105 posted on 12/26/2002 9:25:06 AM PST by geedee
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To: Hunble; BlueLancer
This was not a joke to us, and each and every one of us knew that we would die within 3 days if the USSR did attack.

No joke: agreed. Apologies if I appeared to be treating it as one.

Separated at birth: this "animal liberation" extremist, named Kevin Kjonaas . . .

. . . and Joseph Goebbels (photographed by Alfred Eisenstadt).

106 posted on 12/26/2002 9:25:45 AM PST by dighton
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To: Sparta
Hey, Heidemarie! We're really pis*ed about 9/11. Got it?
107 posted on 12/26/2002 9:28:34 AM PST by gitmo
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To: Hunble
Every right-thinking American knows your service in Germany wasn't a joke. I salute you and thank you for your service.

I suspect that if the USSR only out-numbered y'all 10 to 1, you wouldn't have had to retreat very far.

108 posted on 12/26/2002 9:31:18 AM PST by geedee
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To: geedee
Correct, on the third day, we would use the tactical nukes.

That is why the Greens started targeting our nuclear storage sites.

109 posted on 12/26/2002 9:35:09 AM PST by Hunble
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To: geedee
This was probably posted a few months ago, but wouldn't it be nice to see more of this coming out of Europe?

Tony Parsons - UK Daily Mirror September 11, 2002

No matter what your views on President Bush's statement of upcoming war, this is from an English journalist, is very interesting.
Just a word of background, for those of you who aren't familiar with the UK's Daily Mirror. This is a notoriously left-wing daily that is normally not supportive of the Colonials across the Atlantic.

ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there with Pol Pot's mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps.
An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate. Surely there could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent, the perpetrators truly evil.

But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last year. There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country - too loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier than Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me. More than that, it turns my stomach.

America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just Americans, but from dozens of countries - were butchered by a small group of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them?

What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on the planes was that we recognised them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives, and children, some unborn.

And these people brought it on themselves? And their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?

These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The anti- American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it likes without having to ask permission.

The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since September 11.

Remember, remember.

Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to say, "I love you," before they were burned alive.

Remember those people leaping to their deaths from the top of burning skyscrapers.

Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive.

Remember the smiling face of that beautiful little girl who was on one of the planes with her mum.

Remember, remember - and realise that America has never retaliated for 9/11 in anything like the way it could have.

So a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass the Kleenex.



So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they merrily fired their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A shame, but maybe next time they should stick to confetti.

AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot. That it didn't is a sign of strength. American voices are already being raised against attacking Iraq - that's what a democracy is for. How many in the Islamic world will have a minute's silence for the slaughtered innocents of 9/11? How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder of 9/11 was an abomination?

When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that - and didn't push the button. We should thank the stars that America is the most powerful nation in the world. I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not provoke all-out war. Not a "war on terrorism." A real war.

The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell," if America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of hell like you wouldn't believe.

The US is the most militarily powerful nation that ever strode the face of the earth. The campaign in Afghanistan may have been less than perfect and the planned war on Iraq may be misconceived.

But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to these wretched countries. How many democracies are there in the Middle East, or in the Muslim world? You can count them on the fingers of one hand - assuming you haven't had any chopped off for minor shoplifting.

I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle. But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in Riyadh. Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wants to be - rich, free, strong, open, optimistic. Not ground down by the past, or religion, or some caste system. America is the best friend this country ever had and we should start remembering that.

Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil? Tell it to the loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the burning towers. Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the hijacked planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper. And tell it to the hundreds of young widows whose husbands worked for the New York Fire Department.

To our shame, George Bush gets a worse press than Saddam Hussein. Once we were told that Saddam gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people and set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street. Save me the orange centre, oh mighty one!

Remember, remember, September 11.

One of the greatest atrocities in human history was committed against America.

No, do more than remember. Never forget

110 posted on 12/26/2002 10:15:17 AM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: All; Hunble; BlueLancer
Quite an infestation of German know-nothing leftists that we've been experiencing lately!

I wish I could tell you that these dumbasses aren't the norm. Unfortunately, they are representative of majority sentiment in Germany, and indeed, the rest of Europe.

One lone German conservative, a law student at Duesseldorf university, showed up on another thread. Please read his posts, and his profile page, and please join me in extending a friendly welcome to him.

Hunble, BlueLancer, special thanks and appreciation to you, and all Freeper vets and active service members, for putting your lives on the line in defense of freedom.

111 posted on 12/26/2002 10:30:24 AM PST by tictoc
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To: optimistically_conservative
Wow!

Parson's piece is the most powerful foreign article I've ever read.

Thanks!

I didn't realize I was such a patriot until I joined Free Republic. Yeah, I was in the service. Yeah, some friends were killed and injured in various "wars" and/or "police actions" but my patriotism wasn't so blatant before.

Maybe it's because I'm getting older, who knows? But it just chaps my ass when a foreigner like parade has the gall to trash a fellow American and/or America herself. Somehow, my attitude has changed. I don't know you . . . you don't know me . . . you might be the biggest a$$hole in the world. There's many who have sworn on Bibles that I am. But I feel free to point that out to you . . . in more diplomatic lingo I hope . . . but, strangely now, if the description is accurate which I don't think it is, you're my American brother/sister a$$hole and, to me, no foreigner -- especially a back-stabbing German -- has the right to call you names or question your integrity.

I think part of the change in my attitude was caused by knowing what many of the foreigners really think about America and Americans. I somehow feel like we have to close ranks . . . that we're in this battle alone, or maybe with just a few reliable allies. And that is the world's loss . . . not ours. We're the most benevolent country the world has ever known, but we're also the baddest SOB's on the block if we have to be. The choice is theirs.

Again, thanks for the article.

112 posted on 12/26/2002 10:47:03 AM PST by geedee
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To: the land of the free?; hellinahandcart; BlueLancer
Why do you call this site "free"republic . . . ?

Because we keep it free of household pests.

114 posted on 12/26/2002 11:49:47 AM PST by dighton
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"Hast du etwas Zeit für mich?
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"Von neunundneunzig Stiermist-Trolls
"Auf ihrem Weg zum Horizont."
115 posted on 12/26/2002 12:11:31 PM PST by RichInOC
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To: the land of the free?
Firstable?
116 posted on 12/26/2002 12:16:36 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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This site is a private business. The OWNER can do whatever they want to with it. I know that concept is foreign to you, but it's one of the reasons we send your sorry country aid every year, and not the other way around. You need us, we don't need you.
117 posted on 12/26/2002 12:18:56 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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