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Stupid Left, Satanic Left
The Jewish Press ^
| 12/11/2002
| Steven Plaut
Posted on 12/28/2002 9:13:20 AM PST by veronica
It is impossible to understand politics in the world today without grasping the fundamental fact that there exist two different Lefts. I propose that the two be referred to by everyone as the Stupid Left and the Satanic Left.
The two are very different, although they work together. People who are part of the first are simply stupid people. People who are part of the second may in fact be quite shrewd, but are evil and nefarious. There is no third type of leftist.
Over time, the Stupid Left has been losing its numbers, as many Stupid Leftists either become smarter or morph into Satanic Leftists, and so desist from being mere Stupid Leftists. So a process of selection is occurring whereby the strength of the Satanic Left within the overall Left grows.
The anti-American demonstrations we have been witnessing in Europe and the United States are attended by both kinds of Leftists, although they were organized by Satanic Leftists.
Both the Stupid Left and the Satanic Left demonstrate together against the United States, in favor of Saddam Hussein, in favor of destroying Israel and in favor of Palestinian terrorism.
But they do so for different reasons.
The Stupid Left really thinks that if the U.S. leaves Iraq alone, Saddam will refrain from developing weapons of mass destruction. The Satanic Left supports Iraq precisely because it knows that Saddam will develop them and will use them.
The Stupid Left is anti-American because it thinks people in America are oppressed, poor, mistreated and that America is an evil country. The Satanic Left is anti-American precisely because it knows the opposite is the case.
The Stupid Left hates America because it thinks America promotes evil, oppressive regimes around the world. The Satanic Left hates America because America gets in the way of the evil, oppressive regimes that the Satanic Left promotes.
The Stupid Left denounces capitalism and globalization and supports communism because it really believes that people are poor and oppressed under capitalism but free and happy under socialism. The Satanic Left denounces capitalism and supports communism precisely because it knows that the opposite is the case.
The Stupid Left does not know that communism produces gulags. The Satanic Left supports communism precisely because it produces gulags and also because the Satanic Leftists presume they will be placed in charge of the gulags.
The Stupid Left wants a Palestinian state because it thinks that such a state will pursue peace alongside Israel. The Satanic Left wants a Palestinian state precisely because it knows such a state will launch a war of destruction against Israel and endless atrocities against the Jews.
The Stupid Left thinks Israel mistreats Arabs. It does not know that Arab regimes mistreat Arabs. The Satanic Left knows Israel does not mistreat Arabs and Arab regimes do. It wants Israel destroyed not because it thinks Israel is unjust, but rather because it hates Jews.
The Stupid Left opposes Israeli armed force being used to suppress terror because it thinks that terror can be resolved through dialogue and negotiations. The Satanic Left opposes Israeli armed force being used to suppress terror because it supports terror against Jews.
The Stupid Left is convinced that most Arabs seek peace, are moderate and decent people, and have a legitimate grievance against the West. The Satanic Left supports Arab aggression and terror precisely because it knows this is not true.
The Stupid Left thinks that Palestinian leaders and Arab nationalists are progressive and liberal. The Satanic Left supports the same people precisely because it knows they are fascists.
The Stupid Left is under the impression that Arab states have elections and freedom and enlightenment. The Satanic Left supports Arab regimes because they want to destroy Israel and murder Jews.
The Stupid Left thinks the West should not place its Arab residents under surveillance because they are decent people and loyal to their adopted countries. The Satanic Left opposes such surveillance because it wants more Bin Ladens.
The Stupid Left thinks that Israeli settlements are an obstacle to peace. The Satanic Left wants the settlers evicted or killed because they are an obstacle to the Palestinians destroying Israel.
The Stupid Left thinks the Middle East conflict is about Arab human rights. The Satanic Left knows the Middle East conflict is about suppressing Jewish human rights. They support this suppression.
The Stupid Left thinks the Middle East conflict is about land and borders. The Satanic Left knows it is about Israel`s existence.
The Stupid Left thinks Israel is a discriminatory, apartheid country. The Satanic Left wants Israel destroyed so that the Arabs can impose an apartheid regime directed against the Jews and any other non-Moslems.
The Stupid Left believes it is trying to reform and change America. The Satanic Left wants to destroy America.
The Stupid Left thinks socialism works. The Satanic Left wants socialism because it knows it does not.
The Stupid Left thinks it is opposing racism. The Satanic Left`s fundamental urge is to impose its own mode of racism and anti-Semitism on the world.
The Stupid Left thinks Zionism is a form of racism. The Satanic Left supports anti-Zionism precisely because it is a form of anti-Semitism.
The Stupid Left chooses its political positions on the basis of the desire by leftists to make their mommies and daddies mad. So does the Satanic Left, but they really hate their parents.
The Stupid Left says it favors equality. The Satanic Left favors transferring power to itself so that it can oppress others.
The Stupid Left supports Marxist groups all over the world because it thinks these are non-violent and favor pluralism. The Satanic Left supports them because they know these are violent and totalitarian.
The Stupid Left thinks animals should be treated like humans. The Satanic Left thinks humans should be treated like animals.
The Stupid Left wants socialism because it thinks that people will not have to work under socialism and because it thinks that leftists will have a lot of friends under socialism. The Satanic Left wants socialism because Satanic Leftists will not have to work under socialism while they turn everyone else into slaves, and because they`ll get to shoot their friends.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: communism; evil; good; socialism
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posted on
12/28/2002 9:13:20 AM PST
by
veronica
To: dennisw; Lent; SJackson; BenF; Nachum; Alouette; Sparta; yonif; JohnHuang2; Catspaw; Long Cut
FYI.
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posted on
12/28/2002 9:15:16 AM PST
by
veronica
To: veronica
The Stupid Left does not know that communism produces gulags. The Satanic Left supports communism precisely because it produces gulags and also because the Satanic Leftists presume they will be placed in charge of the gulags.
Excellent post. thank you.
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posted on
12/28/2002 9:21:51 AM PST
by
Francohio
To: veronica
A few of these are a bit off, IMHO:
The Stupid Left thinks socialism works. The Satanic Left wants socialism because it knows it does not. thinks it will get to rule. (echoing an earlier point)
But generally good enough. Saw this in action viewing some 70s protests, where the agitators would whip up the crowd and then suddenly vanish when the riot-control police showed up.
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posted on
12/28/2002 9:23:48 AM PST
by
Eala
To: Eala
GREAT point about the '60s leaders leaving the sheeple when the going got rough. We could see it in a similar context after the mid-term election, where suddenly none of the big Democrat leaders -- who had been everywhere prior to the event -- were available for comment. Until the radical-liberal "children of the '60s" are out of power -- or the majority of Americans wise up -- this sort of behavior will continue.
To: veronica
"The Stupid Left thinks socialism works. The Satanic Left wants socialism because it knows it does not."
Actually, the Satanic Left doesn't care whether socialism works - they only care that it is a system under which they can acquire the most personal power for themselves. Kind of like Hillary who used to be a Goldwater girl in the early 60's - she quickly saw that the Left is where she needed to be if she wanted to amass great personal power (true) while at the same time not caring in the slightest how many millions of Americans suffer and die as a result (also true).
To: veronica

Meet the Satanic Left.
To: veronica

Figurehead of the Stupid Left.
To: veronica
The two are very different, although they work together. People who are part of the first are simply stupid people. In other words, the "Useful Idiot" faction, so to speak. ;)
To: veronica
Hanlon's Razor:
Hanlon's Razor /prov./ A corollary of Finagle's Law, similar to Occam's Razor, that reads "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
The derivation of the Hanlon eponym is not definitely known, but a very similar remark ("You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity.") appears in "Logic of Empire", a 1941 story by Robert A. Heinlein, who calls it the `devil theory' of sociology.
Heinlein's popularity in the hacker culture makes plausible the supposition that `Hanlon' is derived from `Heinlein' by phonetic corruption.
A similar epigram has been attributed to William James, but Heinlein more probably got the idea from Alfred Korzybski and other practitioners of General Semantics. Quoted here because it seems to be a particular favorite of hackers, often showing up in sig blocks, fortune cookie files and the login banners of BBS systems and commercial networks. This probably reflects the hacker's daily experience of environments created by well-intentioned but short-sighted people. Compare Sturgeon's Law.
To: veronica
Ellen Ratner let us know yesterday which camp she's in when she announced on Cavuto's show that she hopes that GWB messes up in the war so that he won't be re-elected.
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posted on
12/28/2002 10:26:15 AM PST
by
alnick
To: veronica
I have been saying for a long time that the left is made up of the truly ignorant led by the truly evil.
To: veronica
They love the idea of "choice" regarding abortion but not schools...
You can kill an unborn human child at a whim...and you cant own a gun to protect another child from rape or murder...
They rant about rape...yet refuse to allow a woman to own and carry a handgun to protect herself from the violent crime of rape or the murder done to cover it up
They are all for rights in the ghetto...except the right to defend yourself from gangs and violent crime...(in the very place violent crime is most prevalent)
To: veronica
There is no third type of leftist. French socialism.
To: veronica
Thanks for the article. I like it. Check this out...I came across it one day and am not sure if it's satire...but it's still scarey! http://www.homestead.com/Wordkraft/Crazy.html
"HOW TO DRIVE A CONSERVATIVE ABSOLUTELY CRAZY"
by "Carmen Steele"
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posted on
12/28/2002 12:15:05 PM PST
by
AuntB
To: veronica
NICE!
Good editorial. He nailed it.
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posted on
12/28/2002 12:29:50 PM PST
by
Bullish
To: veronica
thanks for the post and BUMP
To: veronica
Thanks for the ping and Bump!!!!
Excellent post!!!
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posted on
12/28/2002 2:13:18 PM PST
by
Sparta
Comment #19 Removed by Moderator
To: veronica
The other day I talked with a liberal/leftist - (a family member, unfortunately - I come from an ultra leftist family) who said that communism hasn't worked because it wasn't applied properly, but the "ideas" weren't at fault. She quickly had to admit, though, that once the personal incentive is taken away no one wants to work. She is (I hope!) a "stupid" leftist.
My husband escated from an eastern European country 20 years ago and saw communism up close and personal. It ruins countries and ruins people. People become lazy, irresponsible and dishonest (I'm speaking in generalities of course, there are always exceptions!). It's "who you know" - trying to hang out with the "in crowd" so you can get special priviliges and so forth. It brings out the worst in people. (What to speak of gulags!)
Having grown up with leftists and become a black sheep, I can agree with this article. And also with his point that Stupid leftists become evil - or they become smarter. The leftist philosphy perverts the human spirit.
To: pram
I come from an ultra leftist family) who said that communism hasn't worked because it wasn't applied properly, but the "ideas" weren't at fault. She quickly had to admit, though, that once the personal incentive is taken away no one wants to work. Nothing against your family member, but this is a great example of why it's so hard to figure these people out.
How CAN one believe that "properly applying the ideas" of communism would work, when the incentive to produce is taken away, which she freely admitted to?
I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard a lefty say that communism has failed, because it has yet to be administered correctly.
To: veronica
So are the NY Jews the stupid left or satanic left???
Pray for GW and our Troops
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posted on
12/28/2002 6:52:45 PM PST
by
bray
To: Tom Bombadil
Not necessarily in this order (and with some overlap):
Liberals
Dupes
Fellow Travelers
Pinkos
Red Diaper Doper Babies (Thanks, Mike Savage)
Progressives
Marxist/Leninists
I like the article though. Christians have a lot to learn from the Jews. They have always been, by definition, counter-cultural whether they like it or not. For Christians it's developed in the last thirty years.
We shall overcome.
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posted on
12/28/2002 6:56:13 PM PST
by
johnb838
To: Darling Lili
Don't worry about speaking out about my "family member"! I am almost ostracized because I am pro-gun rights, pro-death penalty, against abortion, and view sodomy as sick and cruel behavior, not a holy sacrament! Because of having the upbringing I had (red-diaper doper baby) I have a unique insight into liberals. It IS a religion, in the sense of people BELIEVING with all their hearts. People can have blind belief in anything - the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, flat earth, the tenets of liberal/leftism - with complete fervor.
The reason one cannot argue or debate rationally with such people is because their belief is fanatic, not rooted in truth. Unconciously they can't stand to hear anything that disagrees with them, because it may destroy their own faith. If their foolish groundless faith in phantasmagoria is destroyed, they will then have to look at their empty purposeless lives and that will be painful.
Also, leftism/liberalism, being a phony religion, requires strict adherence and lack of questioning. It requires that one be either an atheist, or if one believes in "God" it is not really God but a pretend or mistaken idea of God. The concept of "Absolute Truth" in the sense of God is 100% absent with real leftist liberals.
Another interesting facet is that liberals/leftist have a fixation with illicit sex. Even if they don't do it, they see abortion, homosexuality and "free sex" as requirements - to deny the legitimacy of these is tantamount to blasphemy. For instance, my family considers me mentally sick because I see these as unhealthy and immoral.
I could write a book about this!!!
To: pram
I could write a book about this!!! LOL! You ought to! You must especially enjoy David Horowitz's columns, as a fellow red-diaper doper baby. ;)
To: Tom Bombadil
"Wahabite liberalism"..."Jacobin Left"...'jihadi left'...
To: pram
"Don't worry about speaking out about my "family member"! I am almost ostracized because I am pro-gun rights, pro-death penalty, against abortion, and view sodomy as sick and cruel behavior, not a holy sacrament!"
You write very well and have pithy things to say (catch that O'Reilly?). You really should consider writing some things for published consumption or, at minimum, becoming a regular contributor to the "Letters" section of a mainline newspaper. Obviously, the NY Slimes and Wash Slosh wouldn't have a thing to do with your letters.
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posted on
12/28/2002 7:47:01 PM PST
by
Chu Gary
To: veronica
Excellence in posting. Disquisitorily profound. The Stupid Left pushes "affirmative action" because they believe it makes up for evil discrimnation that went the other way, in the past. The Satanic Left likes it because it puts people in places where they can't cut the mustard, angering and/or disheartening them, and at the same time enraging others, when decent people stand up against it.
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posted on
12/28/2002 8:03:20 PM PST
by
185JHP
To: veronica
Well said.
Perhaps I'd have phrased it, 'the satanic Left' and their useful idiots - but I agree with the premise.
There is strong evidence that Karl Marx was a satanist (ref: "Marx & Satan" by Wurmbrand), and we can certainly observe the fruits of his labors (atheism; deification of the State; abortion mills; the 100+ million killed by the various communist regimes of the 1900s; and so on)...
Thanks for the post - its a good reminder how we are under the curse of evil - and how satan wants to enslave us. But I'll also use this as an opportunity to remind everyone that there is one who has purchased our freedom with His precious blood:
John 8:36 ...If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
May God bless you.
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posted on
12/28/2002 8:18:36 PM PST
by
El Cid
To: martin_fierro
Right on.
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posted on
12/28/2002 8:21:22 PM PST
by
veronica
To: pram
Only in a thriving capitalist country such as ours are Marxists really free to indulge their intellectual conceits about how well communism would work "if only properly administered." Like all vile parasites, they require a healthy host to feed and sustain them. When they become dominant and proliferate, they inject their noisome poisons into culture, society, and industry and eventually kill the host just as certainly and painfully as any black plague would do.
To: veronica
Following the same logic --
The Stupid Left wants gun control, because they honestly believe it will make the streets safer. The Satanic Left wants gun control because they know that it will make them vastly more powerful.
Or so I once believed. But I no longer believe in the Stupid Left. There's only one kind of leftist.
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posted on
12/28/2002 9:40:30 PM PST
by
Rytwyng
To: Kevin Curry
Like all vile parasites, they require a healthy host to feed and sustain them. Reality bump.
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posted on
12/28/2002 10:36:11 PM PST
by
Abar
To: veronica
The Stupid Left wants a Palestinian state because it thinks that such a state will pursue peace alongside Israel. The Satanic Left wants a Palestinian state precisely because it knows such a state will launch a war of destruction against Israel and endless atrocities against the Jews. Bush still calls for a 'palestinian' state.
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posted on
12/28/2002 10:44:04 PM PST
by
Abar
To: veronica
bump
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posted on
12/28/2002 11:16:42 PM PST
by
SkyPilot
Bump.
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posted on
12/29/2002 7:16:50 AM PST
by
veronica
To: veronica
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posted on
12/29/2002 7:21:26 AM PST
by
M Kehoe
To: martin_fierro
...Heinlein more probably got the idea from Alfred Korzybski...It is a very good day when I see these two cited. :)
To: Tom Bombadil
There is no third type of leftist....French socialism.Meaning stupid *and* unbathed?
To: Darling Lili
this is a great example of why it's so hard to figure these people out.The willfully ignorant, so invested in their dogma, are a subcategory of the stupids.
To: bray
the NY Jews the stupid left or satanic left?Mostly stupid. They're too morally lazy to be satanic. :)
To: veronica
There is a third Left, the neo-cons. These are pretend-conservatives, who used to be liberals. They have infected true conservatism with their evil to the point where real conservatisim barely exists, and has instead moved over to the libertarian right.
To: pram
I can validate, from personal experience, 100% of what you said in post 24. You are not alone in that niche.
To: Abar
Bush still calls for a 'palestinian' state.Talk is cheap, and this position is diplomatically useful. I have family in Israel, and I trust W to NOT screw them.
To: Trickyguy; SJackson; Cachelot; dennisw
There is a third Left, the neo-cons. These are pretend-conservatives, who used to be liberals. They have infected true conservatism with their evil to the point where real conservatisim barely exists, and has instead moved over to the libertarian right.;)
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posted on
12/29/2002 7:55:14 AM PST
by
veronica
To: Trickyguy
"They have infected true conservatism with their evil to the point where real conservatisim barely exists, and has instead moved over to the libertarian right." Translation: "Real conservatism" needs to move over into the realm of kookdom, where the paleoconservatives reside.
To: NativeNewYorker
Talk is cheap, and this position is diplomatically useful. I have family in Israel, and I trust W to NOT screw them. Bush did do a 180 on ArabRat, so I'm hopeful as well.
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posted on
12/29/2002 11:28:22 PM PST
by
Abar
To: pram
Excellent analysis, pram, your #24.
To: betty boop
Thanks betty - I have given this topic a lot of thought over the years, the more I read and study the condition of the world, and simultaneously follow the prayer path... The chasm looks wider and deeper day by day.
\Here's something I posted on another thread yesterday;
Here's a couple of excerpts from Scott Lively:
"The Declaration of Independence and U.S.Constitution presuppose a benign moral order in creation to which all human beings are subject.... The Bill of Rights...implicitly affirms that there is a higher law than concensus of the governed, derived from God....
The humanist model, on the other hand, assumes that morality derives from the human mind, and thus may change with social circumstances. It teaches that truth is subjective and relative. For this reason every humanist system inevitably produces totalitarianism, as subjective belief replaces objective truth as the moral authority for social policy, and competing "strongmen" strive for the power to declare their own will as law."
(From a booklet entitled "Why and How to Defeat the 'Gay' Movement" check it out at
http://www.abidingtruth.com/ )
(The article by Dennis Prager on whether people are basically good or bad...)
To: veronica
bttt
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