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MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKS -- On purging of Lott, unfit leader, California, etc.
The Daily Oklahoman ^ | 30 December 2002 | Various

Posted on 12/30/2002 6:39:35 AM PST by PhiKapMom

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To: BeachPaladin
Lott's comments were in my paper several times about my Senator not opposing him in 1998 with the agreement that he would step down in 2000!

Not to mention I also received that same information from well placed sources.

It was common knowledge out here in Oklahoma that Lott reneged on his promise to step aside knowing full well that Sen Nickles could not continue to serve as the #2 man after the 2002 elections.

How about Lott not taking Senator Nickles with him to the WH during the last budget negotiation with the clinton Administration where he gave up the farm?
61 posted on 12/30/2002 8:40:52 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: cynicom
I am a conservative Bush Republican and I was not happy with the Education bill as it was written. Still not BTW!
62 posted on 12/30/2002 8:42:09 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
Hi PKM,

As you now know, it got pretty lively here at FR while you were gone.

I couldn't believe, myself, the intellectual contortions that were done to defend the indefensible.

Kinda reminded me of the old Clintonista days, only it was Republicans this time around.
63 posted on 12/30/2002 8:46:51 AM PST by SerpentDove
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To: cynicom
Politics smells sometimes. I held my nose, too, but look at what it got us. Control of 2 houses of Congress, and 3 branches of govt.!

That was the plan, and it worked; Give enough to take the issue away from them, then take their Senate in exchange.

64 posted on 12/30/2002 8:47:55 AM PST by chiller
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To: BeachPaladin
...but any talk of his not being an honorable man is absolutely dead wrong

Was going on BET and groveling before the race hustlers the act of an honorable man? Was casting away the core conservative principles of equality and color blindness honorable?

Many of us have disbelieved in Lott's 'honor' for a long time, and consider his performance on BET to be the final proof of the correctness of our view of him as a backslapping, disingenuous, self-serving pol.

What did you do for the man, if I may ask?

65 posted on 12/30/2002 8:49:51 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: BeachPaladin
bttt
66 posted on 12/30/2002 8:50:18 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: PhiKapMom
ahhhh, a Nickles person

well, I didn't read those comments from your paper, so I find it difficult to answer your comments on something I didn't see

I would argue that my sources about whether Lott stated he would step down are at least as good as yours, and no such statements were made by Lott - in point of fact, I am MONUMENTALLY skeptical that he ever made such a promise - however, if you can find such a statement, I am willing to check it out

I would add that it is common knowleadge that Nickles and his staff have had the knife out for Lott for years, certainly while I was in DC and I would guess that it continued after I left

as for Sen Nickles not going to the WH for a round of budget negotiations, I am reminded of former Speaker Gingrich's snit
67 posted on 12/30/2002 8:51:04 AM PST by BeachPaladin
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To: BeachPaladin
I would add that it is common knowleadge that Nickles and his staff have had the knife out for Lott for years...

Prescient, ain't he... ;-)

68 posted on 12/30/2002 8:53:45 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: BeachPaladin
while I personally know he is no racist I must agree that his statement may have given some that impression - he has always spoken extemporaniously (sp?) and has occasionally made some serious gaffes - but any talk of his not being an honorable man is absolutely dead wrong

FYI - I have lurked on FR for years - going back to before the impeachment trials and remember well the long time accusations and statements about my former boss - it's really a shame that some of what was stated here on FR had little or no basis in fact - but that of course is one of the drawbacks of the net

BUMP

69 posted on 12/30/2002 8:53:55 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: EternalVigilance
when fighting for your political life, sometimes you grasp at straws

I agree that his interview on BET was a mistake - if he needed a forum there were others available - his "apology tour" was embarressing even for many of his supporters

I worked projects for him...
70 posted on 12/30/2002 8:56:56 AM PST by BeachPaladin
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To: SerpentDove
Thanks for the comments. I could not believe what I was reading as I was going through the comments I had been bumped to while I was gone.

Looks like I missed a total flame war on here.

Still hard to believe how the comments could be defended!
71 posted on 12/30/2002 8:57:04 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: sinkspur; PhiKapMom
Lott did himself in with his silly BET interview and deserved to be cut loose after that.

If I recall correctly you were out there on the Trent Lott bandwagon even after the BET interview. When did you reach this epiphany. Obviously it was only after Lott decided to resign.

72 posted on 12/30/2002 8:58:57 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: chiller
And then you go back and do some revising a little at a time, ususally with riders in the appropriations bills. There's always more than one way to skin a cat. You do not always have to go in somebody's face to get things done.
73 posted on 12/30/2002 8:59:20 AM PST by hchutch
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To: PhiKapMom
Nice post...I find myself in agreement with you about Lott, but not nearly as much so about Frist.

I suppose alot of our disagreement about the new majority leader stems from the personal experiences this year of each of us. The Senatorial Committee was helpful to you in your efforts, and signally unhelpful to mine...even though they were more than happy to use the assets I brought to their table.

Happy holidays!

EV
74 posted on 12/30/2002 9:00:18 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: PhiKapMom
Welcome to weirdo-ville. Now you've done it.

LOL

You've thrown red-meat to the die-hard Lott defenders, and now you have to deal with them after the rest of us have gone away gloating in our victory.

You're now in the equivalent of the scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark where they go into the tomb and all the mummies fall all over them.

(By the way, you are 100% right, and you know it.)

;-)

SD
75 posted on 12/30/2002 9:01:50 AM PST by SerpentDove
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To: PhiKapMom
Looks like I missed a total flame war on here.

LOL...you might say that, yeah...

76 posted on 12/30/2002 9:02:03 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: BeachPaladin
I am certainly proud to be called a Nickles person along with Inhofe. Might want to ask why you think why they were after Lott? Senator Nickles and his staff are some of the finest people I have met and as loyal to the Republican caucus as they come.

Kind of a diverse bunch going after Lott don't you think? Let's see -- Warner is not exactly a huge conservative, then you have Allen and Santorum also on board not to mention Kyl and Frist. Makes me think that there is more to what I have heard about Lott then you want us to believe.
77 posted on 12/30/2002 9:02:10 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: EternalVigilance
How you doing?

It was great after the last election to take the time off from even being on a computer!

78 posted on 12/30/2002 9:03:18 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: hchutch
Thanks for the assist. Correct. Looking for many many changes to come, now that they can FINALLY be achieved.

Even with 60 votes need in the Senate to force votes, committee chairs are huge ie; judicial.

In the greater scheme of things, nothing bigger than this one, alone.

79 posted on 12/30/2002 9:04:32 AM PST by chiller
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To: PhiKapMom
For catch up if you have a week or more!

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TRENT LOTT-- A Distortion Wrapped in a Conspiracy Inside an Agenda
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TRENT LOTT-- POLL - CNN
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TRENT LOTT---Lott must atone for his stupid mistake
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TRENT LOTT--Black Republicans Speak of Their Outrage at Lott
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TRENT LOTT--Clinton Bashes Conservtives Criticism of Lott, Says it is Hypocritical
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TRENT LOTT--Commentary: Lott Throws In The Towel (Conservative base will be gone)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/810176/posts

TRENT LOTT--Consequences of Lott
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811083/posts

TRENT LOTT--Conservatives Led the Way in Criticizing Lott's Remarks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/807783/posts

TRENT LOTT--Democrats: A Lott of trouble (ANN COULTERS VIEWS ON TRENT LOTT ATTACK)
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TRENT LOTT--Don Feder Gets Trenchant On The Lott Affair
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811663/posts

TRENT LOTT--Don Nickles Calls for New Senate Leadership Election to Challenge Lott
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/806844/posts

TRENT LOTT--ELEANOR CLIFT SLANDERS MILLIONS OF REPUBLICANS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/806122/posts

TRENT LOTT--For Now, Trent Lott Should Have Our Support ( Let's stay on course )
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TRENT LOTT--G.O.P. Colleagues to Meet in Private About Lott's Fate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/807770/posts

TRENT LOTT--Hannity & Colmes WWF style-Coulter and Sharpton!!!
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TRENT LOTT--I about a lot more than Lott: David Limbaugh broad brush GOP painted with needs cleaning
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/807797/posts

TRENT LOTT--IN DEFENSE OF LOTT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/807171/posts

TRENT LOTT--Jim Jeffords (I-VT) issues statement in support of Lott
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/806064/posts

TRENT LOTT--Kevin Martin: Black Caucus Fears Senate's Ex-Klansman (Sen. Robert Byrd)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805093/posts

TRENT LOTT--Live Thread: Lott's Press Conference
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/806107/posts

TRENT LOTT--Lott apologizes again for remark
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/806336/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811643/posts

TRENT LOTT--Lott not the victim (HURL ALERT)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/813192/posts

TRENT LOTT--Lott supported by some blacks in home state after remarks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/806745/posts

TRENT LOTT--Lott's feeding frenzy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/807134/posts

TRENT LOTT--Lott's offhand remark not worth demand for his head
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/808635/posts

TRENT LOTT--MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKS -- On purging of Lott, unfit leader, California, etc.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/814146/posts

TRENT LOTT--Republicans and the 'race card'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811077/posts

TRENT LOTT--REV. PETERSON TO SENATOR LOTT: “DON’T GIVE IN TO RACIST DEMOCRATS!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805412/posts

TRENT LOTT--RINO Bill Frist: The Wrong Choice for Majority Leader!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/809675/posts

TRENT LOTT--Rush says Slam the Rats Right Back about their Racist party
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805981/posts

TRENT LOTT--Rush says Slam the Rats Right Back about their Racist party
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805981/posts

TRENT LOTT--Sean Hannity is gonna hang himself with this Lott issue.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805519/posts

TRENT LOTT--Sean Hannity is gonna hang himself with this Lott issue.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805519/posts

TRENT LOTT--Selective 'racists': Dems double standards
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811100/posts

TRENT LOTT--Senator Lott
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811053/posts

TRENT LOTT--The Sword Cuts Both Ways [Insight from Black Conservative commentator on Lott]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/807329/posts

TRENT LOTT--The Weakest Link: Will Republicans say goodbye to Trent Lott?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805074/posts

TRENT LOTT--Trent Lott's Debacle - Now, Bush Must Act
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/806502/posts

TRENT LOTT--Vacant Lott for Rent: The Trent Lott Press Conference Live Thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/806109/posts

TRENT LOTT--White Fear (threat of being labeled “racist” causes whites to cower to the
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/626881/posts

TRENT LOTT--White House Increases Pressure on Lott
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/807378/posts

TRENT LOTT--Worse than Satan (right-wing journalists and pundits acting like Girly-boys)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805592/posts

80 posted on 12/30/2002 9:05:59 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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