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To: Stavka2; Avoiding_Sulla
>You see, there are a lot of unsupervized hog farms owned by various strong lobbiests.

More government control is NOT the answer.  More government control and love of the nanny state got you Homeland Security.  If you're happy and you know it, clank your chains.  The NWO agenda favors rich anglophiles who break all the rules to make themselves richer and at the same time bespoil the earth.  Gaii worship is Luciferian occultism and it means to kill people in massive numbers.

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32 posted on 12/31/2002 2:54:19 AM PST by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
More government control is NOT the answer.

The worst environmental devistation on earth is found in the communist dicatatorships of the world. Romania (coal pollution), East Germany (NAZI era synthetic rubber mfg), USSR (remember Chernobyl), just to name a few. It took freedom to allow these places to even start cleaning up these messes created by their respective governments.

36 posted on 12/31/2002 5:53:12 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: 2sheep
Yup, absolutely no safety regulations in NC, so while you're at it, please go to the farmers and other residents and explain to them how much better off they are now without any regulation on the hog industry...now that their ground water is polluted, the fish are dead and their homes are full of pig manure...be my guest.

Government's job is not to control the economy/market it is to regulate it to keep one side from abusing the other and an even playing field.

37 posted on 12/31/2002 8:06:55 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: 2sheep
Just out of morbid curiosity: what do you think of state/federal parks, should be clear cut them and make a profit...after all, what purpose do they serve, just sitting around like that, right?.
38 posted on 12/31/2002 8:13:24 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: 2sheep; *Death Cultivation
To make this assertion stick, try extracting from your long list of sources the bits of evidence, one after the other, linked with pertinent commentary, that sustain your judgment.

As it stands now, your assertion is battling with competing perceptions to the contrary ("anglophiles? but I thought western thought is under attack") and with ostensibly benign declarations ("bespoil the earth? But they're environmentalists").

To counter those deceptions, you need to pry up your adversaries' facade to reveal the inner workings. Very many will deny the see anything in your revelations. But a few will see something, and perhaps that will lead them to become undeceived, and from them will come their influence's rippling effect.

But to get it started, you need to extract some stuff from that long list (of course, with the links), adding your thinking on how it's applicable, and not just present the raw links.

And try to be concise and on point. Don't try to battle all the junk being tossed up at once. Most of it, frequently the most obvious, is just chaff to distract and spend the fire of opponents like you. So try to stick to what you know to be substantive. You only need to reveal a few flaws in the adversaries propaganda for you to make inroads and establish a beachhead. Against Leviathan, many such inroads amount to major successes. Just take your patience faith and summon the drive to do this extra bit.

At *Death Cultivation is a whole litany of threads with evidence of the intent to kill large numbers. There is the explicit quote by Jacques Cousteau which lauds the evil intent as a good and which was applauded. There's Mugabe's interior minister declaring that country's ecomomic policy is patterned upon Stalin's starvation of the Ukraine. There was Stalin himself, lauded by many in the west, the earliest fifth columnists. There's the encouragement of lifestyles that reverse societies' old paradigm that encouraged population growth, many of which don't just prevent pregnancies, but kill babies and adults both in large numbers.

Now I know there are quite a few people, even here at FR, who already know of, and concede, this evidence, and who see the truth of your last assertion, but who apparently think it is okay in the long run. They're already hooked into believing "We just have got to limit human population growth somehow." The propaganda has claimed them.

So contemplate the terrain. The depth of the double-think on this, and the unthinking (in many cases) bigotry underlying it, is a very real obstacle. It will require a major battle of words to reawaken personal morality so you can drive the home how intrinsically evil you know the thinking to be there. I believe PC thought suppression has done incredible damage here. Making it PC to equate all cultures, and verbotten to demonstrate how JudeoChristian western thought overcame its own shortcomings to the betterment and prosperity of all humanity, was a trick that screams out for despoiling.

But, as you keep pointing out, the deceptions greet the student at many levels and turns. Finding a way to combat their demoralizing effect needs the undespoiled God-based message be put in the words that are understandable by the deceived.

The deceivers twisted the original, you need to find ways to untwist them. Cutting up the deceptions is, allegorically, how Alexander came to power. Try cutting through the weak links you know and the deceptions stand a good chance of unraveling themselves.

47 posted on 12/31/2002 11:43:32 AM PST by Avoiding_Sulla
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