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America's fake identity crisis (Mark Steyn)
National Post ^ | January 6th, 2003 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/06/2003 8:33:03 AM PST by Sabertooth

It's hard not to feel sorry for Mohammed Asghar, a Lahore jeweller who woke up the other morning to find his picture in the paper along with the news that the FBI were looking for him. Not a good way to start the day.

The FBI didn't know they were looking for Mr. Asghar. They thought they were looking for Mustafa Khan Owasi, under whose name they released the photograph of Mr. Asghar. Mr. Owasi is one of five highly suspicious men Americans were urged to be alert for in the run-up to New Year's Eve. They may or may not have entered the United States using false British passports, or Canadian, or some other form of documentation. But what we do know is that they're Arab, unless they're Pakistani or some other nationality, and that they crossed over the Ontario/New York border, or possibly the British Columbia/Washington border, or via some other route entirely. Or they may not be in North America at all. But, if they are, they look like the guys in these photographs, except for the one of that jeweller in Lahore who's never been to the United States.

So, wherever you are on the planet, keep your eyes peeled for five guys who look like the sort of guys who, if they were going to use fake picture ID, would use the kind of fake picture ID with a picture of this particular jeweller from Lahore on it.

I'm all for lulling the enemy into a false sense of security, but, if you're going to bluff them into thinking you're clueless, I think the FBI have to be a bit less obvious.

Anyway, Mr. Asghar thinks his identity may have fallen into the wrong hands a couple of months ago when he decided to take a trip to Britain. As one does when planning a vacation, he got himself a full set of false travel documents. Unfortunately, immigration officials in Dubai spotted they were phony, and sent him back to Pakistan. Although he concedes a fake copy of his fake ID could have been passed to some other fellow, Mr. Asghar denies he has any links to terrorism. "I don't know who misused my travel documents," he says, indignantly.

This has caused great mirth among some Americans: How dare some other fellow misuse my fake documents! They're for me to misuse! It's true that Lahore is a hotbed of false document manufacturing. But, on the other hand, so is the United States. Millions of Americans have fake ID. To name one example, Jenna Bush.

Here's another: Salvador Martinez-Gonzalez. Mr. Martinez-Gonzalez is an illegal immigrant who spent two happy years working at the White House, setting up tents for receptions and other events in the grounds. He was arrested on December 2nd while attempting to re-enter the U.S. from Mexico. Touchingly, among the items found on his person were snapshots of him with Bill Clinton, Vice-President Cheney and other luminaries. The Secret Service huffily insist he didn't wangle his way into the joint with false identification. Their position is that he used "legitimate identification he'd purchased from someone else." So that's OK.

They also say that he posed no security threat. Given that his photo album shows him standing right next to the President, if he posed no security threat it's mainly because he chose not to, rather than because of anything the Secret Service did. He got far closer to the big guy than most of the world's Prime Ministers ever get, and with a bag of tent hooks and other sharp instruments.

As CNN's Candy Crowley pointed out, when she applied for her first White House press pass, she had to undergo a six-month background check, which included the Secret Service asking her neighbours if she did drugs. That's for the privilege of being miles from the President, sitting at the back of the briefing room getting ignored by Ari Fleischer. But, if you want to operate a nail gun in the Rose Garden, feel free to walk right in.

America is nothing if not a land of contrasts. But generally speaking a good rule of thumb is this: where no formal verification of identity is remotely necessary, you'll be asked for a ton of it; where it might conceivably be useful, you'll breeze through. If they ever do push through this mandatory Federal Identity Card, you can bet you'll be required to produce it if you want to enrol your three-year old in the Thomas The Tank Engine Junior Engineers' Club at your neighbourhood toy store, entitling you to 5% off your tenth purchase of Thomas-related items. But you'll never be asked for it if you want a baggage-screening job on Air Force One, and, even if you are, you'll be able to buy one for 30 bucks from a guy in a parking lot.

Maybe the Secret Service are right and all the fellows with "legitimate identification purchased from someone else" pose no security threat. But, in her riveting exposé of the immigration bureaucracy, Invasion, Michelle Malkin does a superb job of connecting the particular lapses of September 11th with the broader "undocumented" culture in the U.S.

One vignette is especially choice: A month before their rendezvous with destiny, two of the 9/11 killers drove to Falls Church, Virginia, to the parking lot of a 7-Eleven where "undocumented" Hispanics congregate in search of casual labour. The terrorists were in search of ID, and it pretty much fell into their lap. Luis Martinez-Flores, an illegal from El Salvador who's been in America since 1994, approached their car and offered his services. He accompanied them to the nearest Department of Motor Vehicles office, supplied the al-Qaeda guys with fake addresses for the residency forms and certified that they lived there. The ID was processed on the spot, and afterwards the trio drove back to the 7-Eleven where Hanjour and Almidhar withdrew a hundred bucks from the ATM and paid off Mr. Martinez-Flores.

Newly certified as lawful residents of the Commonwealth of Virginia, Osama's boys returned to the DMV the very next day to walk two of their fellow terrorists through the same process. These were the photo IDs with which all four boarded Flight 77 -- the one that crashed into the Pentagon. Virginia's non-system was by no means unique: 13 of the 19 murderers had Florida licences, though none were residents thereof.

Want to make it harder for terrorists to acquire the bona fides of a solid citizen? Good luck. Across America, an alliance of immigration advocacy groups, state bureaucracies, local school boards, law enforcement, the Democratic Party and a substantial chunk of the Republican Party (including the President) is wedded to the notion that the best way to deal with the country's vast army of the "undocumented" is to turn a blind eye when they come to the DMV wicket -- and that way they'll all gradually acquire their documents, and be eligible for welfare, education, health care and ultimately to vote for the Democrats in large numbers and (so Bush dreams) for the Republicans in small but significant numbers.

To facilitate this, the state now willingly processes a vast amount of paperwork it knows to be at best incomplete and at worst utterly false. If this was ever a good idea, it isn't since September 11th: If five al-Qaeda Pakistanis on British passports really did slip across the border -- well, OK, not "slip," that makes it sound as if it requires some skill -- but, if they really did get across the 49th parallel, all they have to do is hook up with America's "undocumented" support network and the Tennessee DMV will do the rest.

Meanwhile, conservatives who are churlish enough to complain about all this get damned as "racist," even by some in their own party, who tut that objecting to what happened in Virginia will make it even harder for Republicans to reach out to minorities. One can respect those who are anti-immigration or pro-immigration, but to be pro-illegal immigration is to collude in the corrosion of civic infrastructure. Rewarding the "undocumented" undermines the legitimacy of the state's official databases -- driver's licences, passports, Social Security -- and makes it more likely they'll turn to tracking you on unofficial, shadowy ones.

But, 16 months after 9/11, enlightened opinion is as stubborn as ever on this issue. Which has done more harm to America? Fake documents from Lahore or fake documents from Falls Church? Mohammed Asghar is right: It's outrageous that someone misused his false ID. On the other hand, the lucky beneficiary may already be working as a White House under-gardener.



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Salvador Martinez-Gonzalez… is an illegal immigrant who spent two happy years working at the White House, setting up tents for receptions and other events in the grounds. He was arrested on December 2nd while attempting to re-enter the U.S. from Mexico. Touchingly, among the items found on his person were snapshots of him with Bill Clinton, Vice-President Cheney and other luminaries. The Secret Service huffily insist he didn't wangle his way into the joint with false identification. Their position is that he used "legitimate identification he'd purchased from someone else." So that's OK.

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Want to make it harder for terrorists to acquire the bona fides of a solid citizen? Good luck. Across America, an alliance of immigration advocacy groups, state bureaucracies, local school boards, law enforcement, the Democratic Party and a substantial chunk of the Republican Party (including the President) is wedded to the notion that the best way to deal with the country's vast army of the "undocumented" is to turn a blind eye when they come to the DMV wicket -- and that way they'll all gradually acquire their documents, and be eligible for welfare, education, health care and ultimately to vote for the Democrats in large numbers and (so Bush dreams) for the Republicans in small but significant numbers.

"Salvador Martinez-Gonzalez" has been arrested and is being held on immigration violations. One wonders, however, why the Bush Administration is (belatedly) concerned about an Illegal breaching security in the Presidential residence, yet President Bush doesn't seem to mind much when Illegals are crowding our neighborhoods, street corners, towns, cities, and States.

President Bush got his reputation for being soft on Illegal Aliens the old fashioned way:

He earned it.

From his opposition to California's Proposition #187, to offering goodies to Illegals while he was Governor of Texas, to courting Mexico's Presidente Vicente Fox with visions of Amnesty (or "regularizing," or "normalizing," or "making their work legal") for Mexico's 4 million (at least, and counting) Illegal Aliens, to surreptitiously trying to push through an extension of Bill Clinton's Section 245(i) Amnesty scam for selected Illegals at the expense of lawful immigration applicants, President George W. Bush has, by his policies and pronouncements, assiduously cultivated an image as a malfeasant do-nothing in dealing with Illegals.

Now, with the Senate, the House, and the Presidency in GOP hands, Bush no longer has Tom Daschle to use as an alibi. It's put up or shut up time for the Republicans, and our President.




1 posted on 01/06/2003 8:33:03 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; GOPJ; ...
((((((growl)))))



2 posted on 01/06/2003 8:34:17 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: All
It just keeps getting better..

Mexican ID cards accepted
at San Francisco federal building



3 posted on 01/06/2003 8:38:52 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Tom_Tancredo_Fan
Americans, WAKE UP , WAKE UP , and "WRITE IN TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT" in the next election.

It's to early to start talking like that. President Bush and the GOP have an eighteen month opportunity to get on the right track. If you jump off the wagon now, they have no reason to steer in the direction in which you'd like them to go.




5 posted on 01/06/2003 8:47:21 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
If you jump off the wagon now, they have no reason to steer in the direction in which you'd like them to go.

That's all well and good, but I see no evidence they would steer the wagon in the direction I want to go (scaling back the welfare state) if you held red-hot pokers to their heads.

6 posted on 01/06/2003 8:57:02 AM PST by Joe Bonforte
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To: Sabertooth
If the government doesn't solve this problem, and soon, it will likely be unceremoneously solved by the "American people" after the next major 9/11 type event. And it won't be pretty. And a lot of innocent people will be hurt. And it will be the government's fault.

But rest assured, the "American people" will be the ones accused of ciminality and sent to jail.

7 posted on 01/06/2003 8:59:32 AM PST by Gritty
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To: Sabertooth
btt
8 posted on 01/06/2003 9:15:45 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Sabertooth
Have you ever noticed that most Arabs have two or three different names ("...Abdul al Sharif, also known as Mohammed ben Husseini...")
9 posted on 01/06/2003 9:18:15 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: Sabertooth
Bump and thanks for posting this! Steyn is simply one of the most laser-sharp wits around. I liked the part about the CNN reporter getting ignored by Ari Fleischer versus the guy with tent hooks standing next to the President. Funny, funny stuff.
10 posted on 01/06/2003 9:22:46 AM PST by alwaysconservative
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To: Sabertooth; Tom_Tancredo_Fan
<< President Bush got his reputation for being soft on Illegal Aliens the old fashioned way:

He earned it. >>

Sad to say.

Thank God for Tom Tancredo!
11 posted on 01/06/2003 9:28:27 AM PST by Brian Allen
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To: Tom_Tancredo_Fan
WAKE UP , WAKE UP , and "WRITE IN TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT" in the next election.

I urge everyone to form the bones of a chicken into a pyramid, sprinkle pepper on it, and put it in the window sill in order to make the harmonics converge.

We can never have enough of these plans.

12 posted on 01/06/2003 9:29:47 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: Pokey78
Ping?
13 posted on 01/06/2003 9:37:23 AM PST by Notforprophet
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To: Tom_Tancredo_Fan; Sabertooth
Americans, WAKE UP , WAKE UP , and "WRITE IN TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT" in the next election.

For once, would SOMEONE from the Tancredo crowd please quit bashing Bush for a moment and tell me exactly WHAT that guy proposes as a SOLUTION to the problems of: 1) Illegal immigration (and explain the impact on our budget of such actions, such as use of the military)

2) Legal immigration (and explain the impact of restrictions of rights on our legal citizens and visitors)

3) Terrorism (that doesn't involve further breaching or suspending our Constitutional protections).

Maybe if someone could articulate this, we could send the information to our administration team for their consideration instead of vague threats.

As far as I am concerned, the issue involves an exquisite balance; it is a matter of law as well as politics, principle versus practicality. No matter what, based on their own personal agenda, someone is going to be peeved with the decisions of the current administration. I happen to ADORE President Bush, and while I was also leery of how the immigration issue was handled prior to 9/11, I believe that our President (and his political advisors) well know how to assess the risks of our previous policy. And by continuing to slap them in the face by urging a vote for a one-issue wonder is nothing short of political suicide. If you want to guarantee a disastrous Democrat in the WH again, go ahead and pump Tancredo. Me, I prefer to let our masterful team know that I will support whatever efforts they make to curb the problems without making this country into a socialist nanny state governed by the para-military wannabes. (End of rant, and donning flame-proof suit now!)

14 posted on 01/06/2003 9:46:21 AM PST by alwaysconservative
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To: Sabertooth
Across America, an alliance of immigration advocacy groups, state bureaucracies, lo. . .

No, it's worse. It's an alliance of corporate business types who want cheap labor and Dem activists who want the votes of poor people. I attended an immigration conference sponsored by David Horowitz last year. Grover Norquist (the conservative who runs the Americans for Tax Reform and a pro-immigration shill) talked about being at a White House meeting of business groups, ALL of whom wanted expanded immigration. Very few GOPers have the backbone to tell the corporate interests to take a flying leap.

The situation will NOT change until there is a POLITICAL movement -- like the NRA, the eco-wackos and pro-life -- that DEFEATS OFFICEHOLDERS. Right now you have a million little groups run off of grandma's kitchen table and the think tank Center for Immigration Studies and that's IT!!! Until you make congressmen feel the heat, they won't see the light. (And it's useless to tell them immigration is what changed California from GOP to Dem, as they all smugly think "well, it can't happen in my state." Throw a couple of these immigration apologists out of office and see how fast the rest of them figure it out.)

15 posted on 01/06/2003 9:49:53 AM PST by justanotherfreeper
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up!
16 posted on 01/06/2003 9:51:34 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: alwaysconservative
Easy. Take common precautions that a bank might take so that someone can't used made up or stolen Social Security numbers. Maintain the integrity of offical documents by instructing states to accept only primary documentation to get a drivers license (no matriculas or Cracker Jack IDs). Tie the expiration of drivers licenses to visa expiration dates. Track visa holders etc... Common stuff anyone would do if you really thought a WMD might get in the country.
17 posted on 01/06/2003 9:55:04 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the post and the ping !


18 posted on 01/06/2003 9:57:49 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Sabertooth
Styen nails it here in one succinct paragraph:

"Want to make it harder for terrorists to acquire the bona fides of a solid citizen? Good luck. Across America, an alliance of immigration advocacy groups, state bureaucracies, local school boards, law enforcement, the Democratic Party and a substantial chunk of the Republican Party (including the President) is wedded to the notion that the best way to deal with the country's vast army of the "undocumented" is to turn a blind eye when they come to the DMV wicket -- and that way they'll all gradually acquire their documents, and be eligible for welfare, education, health care and ultimately to vote for the Democrats in large numbers and (so Bush dreams) for the Republicans in small but significant numbers."

19 posted on 01/06/2003 9:58:02 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
We have a ridiculous government,terrified of offending one minority or another.

I know it's all for votes,but is there ANY politician out there that cares about the average citizen? I think not.

I also admire Senator Tancredo,why isn't GWB paying attention to him?
20 posted on 01/06/2003 10:04:13 AM PST by Mears
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To: Dialup Llama

So long as we think some fake IDs, such as the one at right that President Bush's daughter Barbara was caught using, are ok (see FR threads on how "everyone does it"), we are going to have illegals and criminals getting fake IDs.

Until we take all fake documents seriously, we will continue to have problems with illegals and criminals.

You cannot have one policy for the underage drinkers and another for the illegals and criminals, and expect that it can be maintained.

21 posted on 01/06/2003 10:06:53 AM PST by berserker
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To: Sabertooth
Millions of Americans have fake ID. To name one example, Jenna Bush.

LOL!

But generally speaking a good rule of thumb is this: where no formal verification of identity is remotely necessary, you'll be asked for a ton of it; where it might conceivably be useful, you'll breeze through. If they ever do push through this mandatory Federal Identity Card, you can bet you'll be required to produce it if you want to enrol your three-year old in the Thomas The Tank Engine Junior Engineers' Club at your neighbourhood toy store, entitling you to 5% off your tenth purchase of Thomas-related items. But you'll never be asked for it if you want a baggage-screening job on Air Force One, and, even if you are, you'll be able to buy one for 30 bucks from a guy in a parking lot.

More painful truth. But anybody who objects gets the usual "Agggh we're at war!" and so on. Never mind that this nonsense won't make us any safer--the sheeple will feel safer.

22 posted on 01/06/2003 10:12:42 AM PST by alpowolf
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To: alwaysconservative
You say that supporting Tancredo will enable another disastrous Democrat in the WH. I say that we presently have a disastrous RINO in the WH. George Bush has proven that he is no conservative. He leaves the borders open to anyone who wants to stroll across and take advantage of Americans.
23 posted on 01/06/2003 10:17:40 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: Sabertooth
Want to make it harder for terrorists to acquire the bona fides of a solid citizen? Good luck. Across America, an alliance of immigration advocacy groups, state bureaucracies, local school boards, law enforcement, the Democratic Party and a substantial chunk of the Republican Party (including the President) is wedded to the notion that the best way to deal with the country's vast army of the "undocumented" is to turn a blind eye when they come to the DMV wicket -- and that way they'll all gradually acquire their documents, and be eligible for welfare, education, health care and ultimately to vote for the Democrats in large numbers and (so Bush dreams) for the Republicans in small but significant numbers.

Wrong wicket. This is a wicket that almost all Americans go through to get what is now standard identification. I've known blind people who get "drivers" licenses with the restriction that they're not allowed to drive, so that they can have acceptable ID for writing a check. Whether or not such a source of standard ID is a good or bad idea, making it hard to get a driver's license will get a lot of people legitimately annoyed.

There are two problems here: 1. Keeping dangerous people out of the country, legally and illegally. 2. Keeping illegals from getting welfare benefits.

Second problem first, the problem isn't getting identification. It's the range of unnecessary services that the country provides. Decrease or eliminate government welfare provisions and illegals won't be taking as much of them. Get the government out of health care there will be fewer illegals getting such benefits.

As for keeping dangerous people out, we need better security at the borders and better screening of people who are allowed in. My libertarian streak tells me that anyone who wishes to come to this country to work for a living should be allowed to. But my streak for keeping the country secure tells me that those coming in should have to be checked, carefully, before they are allowed in and those who try to sneak in without going through such checks should be stopped.

Making it hard to get in, except through proper procedure will make things difficult for would-be terrorists. Making it hard to get government benefits, will make things difficult for people who come to the U.S. to collect benefits without work. Making it hard to get a driver's license will make things difficult for all of us.

24 posted on 01/06/2003 10:17:55 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: alwaysconservative
I agree with you. I really like the President and feel he's doing a terrific job. Prior to 9/11 I have to admit I wasn't crazy about him as I saw him as weak and unfocused. However, he has really stood up to the challenges that our country faces. Many issues at hand are old issues with no easy answers and sorry, we are a very large country, and a lot of people but much more land than populace to oversee everything that occurs. On top of that we are a diverse nation. It's not an easy job. What I'd like to know is anyone going after the crackpot who sold his ID to the illegal mexican working at the White House?
25 posted on 01/06/2003 10:39:45 AM PST by WellsFargo94
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To: Sabertooth; Mercuria; diotima; nunya bidness; dighton
Ohmigosh, Steyn's brilliant. He's brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. This line had me spittin' out my coffee, no exaggeration:
If this was ever a good idea, it isn't since September 11th: If five al-Qaeda Pakistanis on British passports really did slip across the border -- well, OK, not "slip," that makes it sound as if it requires some skill -- but, if they really did get across the 49th parallel, all they have to do is hook up with America's "undocumented" support network and the Tennessee DMV will do the rest.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

26 posted on 01/06/2003 11:02:06 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: Joe Bonforte
I understand that Daschle is considering a run ... you might vote for him.
27 posted on 01/06/2003 11:12:10 AM PST by altura
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To: janetgreen
I understand Hillary is considering a run ... maybe you could vote for her.
28 posted on 01/06/2003 11:14:48 AM PST by altura
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To: altura
I understand that Daschle is considering a run ... you might vote for him.

Well, if you're an enthusiastic Bush supporter, then your preferred policies are closer to Tommy Daschle than mine.

31 posted on 01/06/2003 4:26:17 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
I've known blind people who get "drivers" licenses with the restriction that they're not allowed to drive, so that they can have acceptable ID for writing a check.

Why don't they just apply for a state issued ID card instead of a driver's license? In every state that I've lived in, that state's Department of Motor Vehicles issued both driver's licenses and ID cards.

32 posted on 01/06/2003 5:04:57 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: Sabertooth
they have no reason to steer in the direction in which you'd like them to go.

Other than that each should honor their oath to uphold the laws of the United States. As if that mattered to any of them.

33 posted on 01/06/2003 7:21:24 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Sabertooth
Now, with the Senate, the House, and the Presidency in GOP hands, Bush no longer has Tom Daschle to use as an alibi. It's put up or shut up time for the Republicans, and our President.

I don't think things are going to change that much regarding immigration. The fact that the Liberals and the media favor immigration may in part explain the failure of the GOP to speak out and do something against it in fear that the media would accuse them of being mean, heartless, and exclusive. We have seen how the GOP and the public have behaved at the media censure of Trent Lott. On the other hand, going against public opinion may also be a detriment for the Republic Party come 2004. So far, doing nothing hasn't had many consequences because, even thought the majority of people want immigration reduced, they haven't retaliated against their members of Congress when they have failed to comply.

34 posted on 01/06/2003 7:22:18 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: justanotherfreeper
Spencer Abraham was the first to feel the heat. Brownback would be a good encore.
35 posted on 01/06/2003 7:25:21 PM PST by Pelham
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To: altura
Vote for Hillary? Wouldn't dream of it. I also wouldn't dream of voting for Bush again, I'll vote third party.
36 posted on 01/06/2003 9:24:55 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: *immigrant_list; madfly; Tancredo Fan; Marine Inspector; Joe Hadenuf; Tailgunner Joe; ShuShu; ...
ping
37 posted on 01/07/2003 12:06:16 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: janetgreen; altura; Sabertooth
If Hillary or another Liberal Democrat gets elected, it'll be because Bush and the Republican Party failed their conservative base.

According to Marine Inspector, at least 5,000 illegal aliens are entering our country everyday, since Bush took office.

That's unconscionable.

I'm not giving Bush and the other RINOs another 18 months to do what they know should have been done more than 18 years ago.

He doesn't have any time to waste in my book.

38 posted on 01/07/2003 6:18:12 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Free the USA; B4Ranch; Tancredo Fan; Marine Inspector; Ajnin; agitator; Tancred; Spiff; backhoe; ...
ping
39 posted on 01/07/2003 6:46:27 AM PST by madfly
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To: WellsFargo94
What I'd like to know is anyone going after the crackpot who sold his ID to the illegal mexican working at the White House?

No. The President you love and adore has made it nearly impossible for the INS to go after illegal aliens. And the last thing he wants is to bring more light to his complete failure on the issue of illegal aliens.

40 posted on 01/07/2003 7:11:54 AM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: madfly
Tightening security isn't part of the plan or Bush would have demanded it be done the day he got in office.
41 posted on 01/07/2003 7:17:30 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: alwaysconservative
I happen to ADORE President Bush

It's nice to know your personal affection for the President has clouded you assessment of his handling of the immigration issue.

Me, I prefer to let our masterful team know that I will support whatever efforts they make to curb the problems without making this country into a socialist nanny state governed by the para-military wannabes.

LOL. Your masterful team of clowns have done nothing to curb the problem and have only made the problem worst.

Also, GWB and his group of masterful clowns have done everything they can to turn this country in socialist nanny state run by para-military wannabes. Just look at the PATRIOT Act, and all the other crap that Congress has passed and the President has signed.

Bush wants to Amnesty illegal aliens; Bush wants to give away our Social Security to Mexicans, Bush wants the Borders wide open for cheap labor and hopefully votes.

Illegal Immigration is a contributing factor, if not the major contributing factor, to almost every problem in the US, and Bush has no desire to stop illegal aliens from entering this country.

Since 9/11, Bush and company have made it harder for the INS law enforcement officers to arrest and deport illegal aliens, and have implemented several flawed programs the hinder legal travelers and do nothing to hinder illegal travelers.

Bush and his masterful team of clowns will be the ruin of this country just as fast as any Democrat.

42 posted on 01/07/2003 7:31:28 AM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: scholar; Bullish
Ping
43 posted on 01/07/2003 12:40:48 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: Sabertooth
Steyn is today's H.L. Mencken; an absolutely brilliant penner of opinions. But he made one tiny (albeit hilarious) mistake: Jenna Bush doesn't need her fake ID anymore, as she and her sister turned 21 about a month ago.
44 posted on 01/07/2003 12:59:20 PM PST by jpl
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To: janetgreen
You say that supporting Tancredo will enable another disastrous Democrat in the WH. I say that we presently have a disastrous RINO in the WH. George Bush has proven that he is no conservative. He leaves the borders open to anyone who wants to stroll across and take advantage of Americans.

Janet, I think we've given George Bush enough time to let us know the road he's going to take. He's proving it daily on the illegal immigration front. He's a disappointment.

46 posted on 01/07/2003 3:05:48 PM PST by Jennikins
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To: Marine Inspector
Bush and his masterful team of clowns will be the ruin of this country just as fast as any Democrat.

I agree. Wait until the Mexican trucks get rolling here into the good old U.S.A, and the Free Trade Area of the Americas starts kicking in. Our country will be one big divided mess of multicultures, with ours gone down the drain.

47 posted on 01/07/2003 3:15:57 PM PST by Jennikins
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Wait until the Mexican trucks get rolling here

Unhappily, I agree with you. I think those trucks will be filled with more than imported goods. I believe there will be shipments of illegal aliens (not only Mexicans), drugs, and worse.

What or who will stop an Al Qaeda terrorist from paying a Mexican truck driver to deliver whatever nightmare weapon he wants to enter our country? Not George Bush, he doesn't want to hurt Vicente Fox's feelings, after all, it's not politically correct.

48 posted on 01/07/2003 3:32:23 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: Stoner
I also will be writing in Tom Tancredo's name, along with many other Californians I know.
50 posted on 01/07/2003 3:51:09 PM PST by janetgreen
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