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Series of killings tied to people-smuggling
The Arizona Republic ^ | Jan. 6, 2003 12:00 AM | Susan Carroll

Posted on 01/06/2003 12:49:07 PM PST by occam's chainsaw

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:21:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WESTERN MARICOPA COUNTY - They come into the shadow of the White Tank Mountains to kill.

And then they disappear, like their namesakes, coyotes.

Since March, smugglers of illegal immigrants, known as "coyotes," have left behind eight bodies, each killing as brutal as the one before, investigators say.


(Excerpt) Read more at azcentral.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: coyotes; illegal; immigration; murder; smuggling
...and it's just going to get worse folks.
1 posted on 01/06/2003 12:49:15 PM PST by occam's chainsaw
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To: madfly
fyi
2 posted on 01/06/2003 1:02:21 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: occam's chainsaw
I have an idea, maybe armed civilians patroling the border?
3 posted on 01/06/2003 1:05:25 PM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
Armed civilians patrolling the border?

Sounds good to begin with, but...

It only works if the civilian patrols detain the coyotes. And then, you face the same problems as with drug smugglers. The coyotes you apprehend are just pups, and the big dogs, the ones making $20,000 a day, get away with it.

We need more than armed patrols...we need strict and vigorous enforcement of immigration laws, we need the imposition of severe penalties on those who employ illegals, and we need to impress on El Presidente Fox that we ain't gonna take any more of his dumping his criminals on us.

For what it's worth...

4 posted on 01/06/2003 2:06:49 PM PST by HiJinx
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To: occam's chainsaw
"These suspects that kill execution-style are capable of killing again and again," Arpaio said. "There could be lots of bodies out there.

Now, can somebody remind me again why US residents living close to the border shouldn't go armed or start their own border patrol networks?

5 posted on 01/06/2003 2:17:37 PM PST by Gritty
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
maybe armed civilians patroling the border?

Arpaio's statements in this article, as he has always said, show that the 8 murders near the White Tank Mnts., and the Red Rock incident are NOT tied to the Volunteer Border Patrols. These two incidents are in the report from the Border Action Network that is being submitted to Napolitano and the new AG asking for an investigation of the Citizen Patrols.

http://www.borderaction.org/BAN-Vigilante.pdf

6 posted on 01/06/2003 2:22:07 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
Okay, we know what the press is telling us.

Out of curiousity, who do you think the new governor is going to believe? Sheriff Joe or Isabel the Marxist?
7 posted on 01/06/2003 2:35:13 PM PST by HiJinx
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To: HiJinx
who do you think the new governor is going to believe? Sheriff Joe or Isabel the Marxist?

That's one of the reasons it's going to get worse. Our new gov is going to pander to the marxists (IMO).

8 posted on 01/06/2003 2:38:59 PM PST by occam's chainsaw
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To: occam's chainsaw
But, but...

She was the AG!!! She knows the score...!!!

Oh, yeah, right.

Never mind.
9 posted on 01/06/2003 2:51:08 PM PST by HiJinx
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
How about a sweep of the Home Depots:o)
10 posted on 01/06/2003 2:55:54 PM PST by Prerunner
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To: occam's chainsaw
No sweat, today Arizona swore in a Democrat Governor.

She will throw open the gates on the border and the illigal trade will evaporate overnight...
12 posted on 01/06/2003 3:48:32 PM PST by Wil H
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To: HiJinx; occam's chainsaw
Bingo!
13 posted on 01/06/2003 3:49:40 PM PST by madfly
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To: occam's chainsaw
...and the President doesn't care.
14 posted on 01/06/2003 4:19:02 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: occam's chainsaw
bttt
15 posted on 01/06/2003 8:02:18 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: madfly
Arpaio's statements in this article, as he has always said, show that the 8 murders near the White Tank Mnts., and the Red Rock incident are NOT tied to the Volunteer Border Patrols.

I'm gonna have fun stuffing this one down Raouuul and Isabel's throats if they're silly enough to come down here.

16 posted on 01/06/2003 9:06:30 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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To: occam's chainsaw
Thanks for the article OC.
17 posted on 01/06/2003 9:08:52 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
The President is afraid to lose votes and that is all.

Same goes for CA prop 187. It passed but is not enforced. A conservative Governor will be needed to go to court to enact it.

It basically said no public funds to illegals. Except for emergency care.
18 posted on 01/06/2003 9:11:26 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: gubamyster
bttt
19 posted on 01/07/2003 12:08:48 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Madcelt
ping
20 posted on 01/07/2003 6:28:21 AM PST by madfly
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To: B4Ranch; Tancredo Fan; Ajnin; agitator; Tancred; Spiff; backhoe; Carry_Okie; Helix; Brownie74; ...
ping
21 posted on 01/07/2003 6:33:33 AM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
I wonder if we could get the illegals to ask Bush to close the borders. That would stop these killings, wouldn't it?
22 posted on 01/07/2003 6:38:02 AM PST by B4Ranch
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"I wonder if we could get the illegals to ask Bush to close the borders?"

There you go. Appeal to the constituency group that Bush believes is his real base. Why didn't anybody think of that before?

Maybe because the illegal aliens would say something like, 'Que tu problema, Gringo? Tu loco, Esse?' ;^)

23 posted on 01/07/2003 7:34:15 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
I am developing a knack at thinking of ideas others let go. Just loco, I guess.
24 posted on 01/07/2003 7:53:14 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Bush will never close the borders, he's too busy working on an amnesty program for lawbreakers already here. He doesn't give a hoot what Americans say about illegal immigration.

As long as he rolls out the red carpet to Vicente Fox's outcasts, they will continue to come because they think the streets here are paved with gold, and they know that Bush won't make a move to stop them or keep them from collecting goodies from the American taxpayers.

Bush and Fox must have SOME deal, huh?

25 posted on 01/07/2003 11:23:08 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: occam's chainsaw
This type of thing has been going on north of the border for some time now. One of the most frustrating things about dealing with this issue is trying to make the Hispanic community open their eyes to the atrocities that are happening in their own communities. The smugglers, deported gangbangers and other criminal aliens for the most part target Mexican-Americans. Despite this, their LEEEEEEEders still spew their propaganda about opening the border.

Two years ago the LAPD turned over a load house with nearly a hundred illegals inside to the INS/Border Patrol. The smugglers had raped some of the females. The smugglers were in the process of trying to erase the evidence of their deeds when they were caught. One female had a bottle of Coca Cola sprayed inside her and was made to sit in a container of Drano and water. Needless to say none of the smugglers got the sentences they deseved.

26 posted on 01/07/2003 11:36:19 AM PST by Ajnin
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See related story here.
27 posted on 01/07/2003 12:13:50 PM PST by occam's chainsaw
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To: occam's chainsaw
Life is very cheap in Mexico. People should wake up to the kind of crime they have going on over there because there is nothing stopping it from coming anywhere in the US.
28 posted on 01/07/2003 1:41:04 PM PST by FITZ
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