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Former Attorney General Casts Christ as Terrorist
CNSNews.com ^ | January 10, 2003 | Michael L. Betsch and Scott Hogenson

Posted on 01/10/2003 7:51:01 AM PST by H8DEMS

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To: AnAmericanMother; the_doc; RnMomof7; OrthodoxPresbyterian; gdebrae; Jerry_M; rdb3; Wrigley; ...
He's been dead for a long time. His mouth is just still running. Woody.

2 Co. 5:11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men,...
51 posted on 01/10/2003 9:09:22 AM PST by CCWoody
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To: H8DEMS
Further proof, if it was needed, that beauty may be fleeting, but stupid is forever.

Dan

52 posted on 01/10/2003 9:11:51 AM PST by BibChr
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To: ArcLight
Oh, for heaven's sake, it's Ramsey Clark. The guy's been a ditz for more years than I can recall. Who cares what he thinks?

Ditzes just like him. Believe me there are LOTS of them. A couple were even elected POTUS a few years ago.


53 posted on 01/10/2003 9:16:16 AM PST by sinclair (You need pay no attention to the voices in my head. They speak only to me.)
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To: Fred Mertz
GAG!

FRee dixie,sw

54 posted on 01/10/2003 10:19:28 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: H8DEMS
He is not the first to make the case that jesus was one of many jewish terrorist/messiah wannabes at that time.

"Let he who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one"
Luke 22:35-38

"I have come to set fire to the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! .... Do you suppose I came to establish peace on earth? No indeed, I have come to bring division."
Luke 12:49-53

So9

55 posted on 01/10/2003 10:23:23 AM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: H8DEMS
Wow, the "anti-war" movement professing its love and respect for Islam.

I'm amazed...
56 posted on 01/10/2003 10:26:42 AM PST by Guillermo (Sic em')
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To: xzins
Seems Ramsey Clarke is a why-can't-we-all-just-get-along Democrat.
57 posted on 01/10/2003 10:42:02 AM PST by WriteOn
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To: WriteOn
Do you think all democrats would convert to islam if the ayatollah's overran the country?
58 posted on 01/10/2003 10:44:31 AM PST by xzins
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I honestly don't think they can be true believers and put up with what democrats have done to this nation. I finally had enough and got out. I AM NOW OFFICIALLY A REPUBLICAN.
59 posted on 01/10/2003 10:53:36 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: bimbo
I'm still waiting for the Jews to realize that the Democrats worship Big Brother instead of G_d.

A lot of Jews I know are beginning to realize the GW Bush supports Israel OUT OF PRINCIPLE, rather than solely to gain Jewish votes.

60 posted on 01/10/2003 11:01:09 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: Servant of the Nine
First of all, Jesus was not a wannabe. He was and is the Messiah who will come soon to redeem Israel and His followers. He brought and brings division because if we follow His commands, we are a rock of offense to people who don't want to live for Christ, such as liberal democrats and others who are against Him. It IS division--dividing sheep from goats. Dividing those heading for hell and a Christless eternity or those going to heaven to dwell with Him for all eternity. People need to read ALL the scripture around something they take out of the Bible, not just one or two lines out of context. M
61 posted on 01/10/2003 11:03:05 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Fred Mertz
I can't believe he said that.

Yes, you do.

62 posted on 01/10/2003 11:40:25 AM PST by BufordP
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To: All
"The greatest moral force there by far is Islam because it is present in the prisons," said Clark. "They're the ones that are respected, they're the ones that are up at up at 5 a.m. and worshiping, they're the ones that are praying five times a day and not ashamed to submit themselves to what they believe is a greater power."

YEAH....UNLESS YOU BELIEVE IN SALVATION THROUGH WORKS, BOY, YOU JUST DON'T BELIEVE IN YOUR FAITH. AFTER ALL, THE OBEDIENCE IN MUSLIMS IS NOT DUE TO LOVE OF ALLAH, BUT DUE TO FEAR OF DAMNATION. In the Christian, obedience comes from the Holy Spirit LEADING us to be obedient in worship and love of Christ all the time. That is a HUGE difference.

Jesus Christ a terrorist? Blasphemous doesn't adequately address this comment.
63 posted on 01/10/2003 11:42:57 AM PST by rwfromkansas (www.fairtax.org: It is time for a FAIRTAX!)
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To: H8DEMS
I am flabbergasted at the stupidity of this man.
64 posted on 01/10/2003 12:03:09 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: xzins
lol. most of them, the Clinton-brand anway.
65 posted on 01/10/2003 12:03:16 PM PST by WriteOn
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; AntiGuv; dubyaismypresident; Grani; ...
Yet another idiot heard from...

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

66 posted on 01/10/2003 12:04:57 PM PST by mhking
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To: xzins
Even comparing the two means that the Ramsey Clark is an illiterate idiot with an agenda.

Amen!

Note how they confuse the use of force with terrorism.

Thus, legimate uses of force, self-defense,(defense of the weak), capital punishment are now lumped all together with illegimate uses, murder and assault.

67 posted on 01/10/2003 12:08:44 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: H8DEMS
"The greatest moral force there by far is Islam because it is present in the prisons" . . .

What's Wrong With This Picture?

68 posted on 01/10/2003 12:39:00 PM PST by RansomOttawa (Just another prole in the People's Republic of Ottawa)
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To: H8DEMS
Hell will be chock full of democrats like Ramsey Clark.
69 posted on 01/10/2003 1:26:36 PM PST by Bullish
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To: H8DEMS
Ramsey Clark, probably has been funded by the Islamofascists as long and as much as the communists have funded this anti America/American POS.

He and Jimmy Carter have the same DNA bad chromosone. They both hate America/Americans/Capitalism and work 24/7 to weaken it.

Ramsey Clark is a prime ACLU hate Christians poster boy.
70 posted on 01/10/2003 1:44:14 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Support Free Republic. Become a monthly donor !)
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To: H8DEMS
The Book of Ramsey, Chapter 6:

23 And when Jesus saw the money changers in the temple, He put on His Holy vestment loaded with dynamite and 24 blew all of them, plus some innocent women and children, to meet 25 His father in Heaven for it was written by the prophet Bubba:

26 My House shall be called a House of prayer but you are making it a robber's den...therefore 27 I will issue a fatwa against you and my servant shall blow you to smithereens.
71 posted on 01/10/2003 1:51:00 PM PST by pgyanke (Jesus makes people uncomfortable...truth makes people uncomfortable--BINGO!)
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To: Remedy
Great article - thanks.

I would say that the Episcopalian, Methodist and Presbyterian Churches and some percentage of Catholics, which I can't determine, have become "secularists", i.e. people who do not believe in an absolute distinction between right and wrong, but hold to some wishy-washy relativist ideas about morality, totally inconsistent with Biblical teachings. I am glad THAT is a cross the DemocRATs have to bear.
72 posted on 01/10/2003 1:52:53 PM PST by ZULU
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To: H8DEMS; Angelus Errare
"The Christian Church overwhelmingly -- there are exceptions -- who choose to call Mohammed a terrorist. They could call Jesus a terrorist too," said Clark. "I mean, he was pretty tough on money lenders a time or two."


Been a while since I read the Gospels, but I don't recall Jesus killing the moneylenders and slaughtering their families...
73 posted on 01/10/2003 1:54:56 PM PST by Green Knight (Looking forward to 2 things. A Jeb Bush Presidency, and a Hillary Beatdown! Preferably at once.)
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To: H8DEMS

What a fool.

There is no comparison between Jesus driving money changers from the temple (His own fathers house, or if you don't believe in Christ, it's at most just a public gathering place.) one time, with a whip and Islamic Terrorists cutting peoples noses off, blowing up airplanes and killing innocents.

For the Christian it's acceptable for him to drive these people from the Temple. For the Non-Christian, it still doesn't sound like much more than a misdemeanor.

It's so ridiculous as to not even merit serious consideration, yet I bet it will become a popular sound byte.

74 posted on 01/10/2003 1:55:36 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (LOTR out takes, Reel #2 Frodo to Sammy: "Yes! Kiss me you fool!")
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To: ZULU
"Hitler designed the Volkswagon."

You blew it on that one!

The VW was designed in Detroit, by the Chrysler Corporation, and first marketed as the Desoto Air Flow. The car never sold well, so the rights to the design were sold to Ferdinand Porsche (yes, as in the sports car) who scaled it down about 10% smaller, and smoothed out the body a little more.

Ramsey Clark is an idiot though ;o)

75 posted on 01/10/2003 1:58:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: savedbygrace
D'OH! Can't believe I didn't notice that. Oh well.
76 posted on 01/10/2003 2:01:40 PM PST by Green Knight
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To: philosofy123
Do you think that anyone read that incredible hemhorage of ink?
77 posted on 01/10/2003 2:06:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: Green Knight
WARNING: Oversimplification coming!

The money changers basically took the coin of the realm and exchanged it for coin of the temple. In doing so, they took a cut. For the times, it was apparently a pretty big cut.

Of course, the big deal was that they were doing this IN the temple, and Jesus' actions were a fulfillment of OT prophecy (I'm too lazy to look it up right now.)

78 posted on 01/10/2003 2:07:09 PM PST by savedbygrace (Jesus is Lord)
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To: H8DEMS
AHA! the very SECOND I saw the headline I KNEW it HAD to be that worn out old sack of turkey droppings, Ramsey Clark.

It'd be interesting to get him and Jimmeh Cawtuh in the same room and listen in on what they might have to say to one another. The two of them and dismal old Coleman McCarthy belong to the same anti-American Society.

"Jimmeh" makes such a big deal out of his Christianity, yet he shares most of Clark's deranged ideas on international relations and foreign policy.

Knaves, fools and -- above all -- HYPOCRITES these types.
79 posted on 01/10/2003 2:10:54 PM PST by Odile
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To: Odile
It would be great to put Clark and Carter in the same room... with a Claymore Anti-personnel mine.
80 posted on 01/10/2003 2:13:28 PM PST by pgyanke (Gun control is hitting your target...)
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To: Politicalmom
POLITICALMOM WROTE: "I don't think that having large numbers of Muslims in the prison population is something to be PROUD of....."

Isn't THAT the truth!

81 posted on 01/10/2003 2:16:48 PM PST by Concerned
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To: H8DEMS
"...The Christian Church overwhelmingly -- there are exceptions -- who choose to call Mohammed a terrorist. They could call Jesus a terrorist too," said Clark. "I mean, he was pretty tough on money lenders a time or two." Clark, who served as attorney general under former president Lyndon Johnson..."

Some people just never grow out of their stupidity. It's along streeeeeeetch from chasing out the money lenders to being a terrorist. Too bad Ramsey can't see the difference.

82 posted on 01/10/2003 2:19:17 PM PST by Bernard
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To: rwfromkansas
Jesus Christ a terrorist? Blasphemous doesn't adequately address this comment. 63 posted on 01/10/2003 11:42 AM PST by rwfromkansas (www.fairtax.org: It is time for a FAIRTAX!) [

DITTO !! Seems like Jesus has gone from "lil baby"Jesus, to being a terrorist. Unbelievable!!

83 posted on 01/10/2003 2:21:02 PM PST by timestax
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To: Marysecretary
First of all, Jesus was not a wannabe. He was and is the Messiah who will come soon to redeem Israel and His followers.

I accept that you believe that.
I don't necessarily accept everything you believe as true.

So9

84 posted on 01/10/2003 2:26:59 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Politicalmom
I don't think that having large numbers of Muslims in the prison population is something to be PROUD of.....

On the contrary, there are only a scant number of locations where I would rather see muslims ...... ( a Bible study being one of them)

85 posted on 01/10/2003 2:28:12 PM PST by Freebird Forever (Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.)
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To: xzins
Ramsey Clark is an illiterate idiot with an agenda.

Got that right. A useful idiot whose job it's always been to control, contain and deflect.

It's in his blood.

The great menace of the 21st century is being positioned as the conservative Christian whose only allegiance is to God, and therefore has no price.

That kind of Christian is a threat to those who can and do buy anyone.

86 posted on 01/10/2003 3:39:45 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: H8DEMS; All
How many Christians are going to be so outaged by this comment that they'll go out and slaughter some muslims? My guess: none. But we'll have to see...
87 posted on 01/10/2003 4:56:45 PM PST by MrJingles
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To: Guillermo
It's fascinating to consider that the communist are now in bed with the religious fanatics of Islam.

That illustrates the fact that their anti-Americanism is merely knee-jerk stupidity.

88 posted on 01/10/2003 7:04:14 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: xzins
I just had a vision of a certain Sinator toting a big ole' Koran and wearing an Hermes head cover. A new definition of terrorist!
89 posted on 01/11/2003 8:00:58 AM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: TrueBeliever9
She is.....a snake.
90 posted on 01/11/2003 10:02:31 AM PST by xzins
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
bumped for newbies to see
91 posted on 01/11/2003 11:00:39 AM PST by timestax
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To: H8DEMS
Even if one could consider the actions of Jesus to be wrong (they weren't) we're still talking about a few butt whoopins compared to bathing a good portion of Southern Asia in blood. By this guy's definition, a playground bully is a terrorist, and said bully gets to claim moral equivalency with the Son of God. Sorry, Mr. Ramsey, sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here.
92 posted on 01/11/2003 11:00:55 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: ZULU
"The greatest moral force there by far is Islam because it is present in the prisons,"

Sure, just ask Richard "Shoe Bomber" Reid and Anthony "Dirty Bomber" Padilla about the great peace initiative of Islamic prison outreach.

93 posted on 01/11/2003 11:02:34 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: Blood of Tyrants
YAHWEH rebuke you, Ramsey. And may HE oppose every liberal and democrat in government who keeps calling good evil and evil good.
94 posted on 01/11/2003 11:03:02 AM PST by Hila
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To: Servant of the Nine
You don't have to So9. But if you are interesting in investigating the possibility that it IS true, just ask God to show you. He will. Peace, Mary
95 posted on 01/11/2003 12:22:37 PM PST by Marysecretary
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To: xzins
in the grass.....

A very clever snake who sheds her skin, then grows another.......many are deceived. Every time I see the name Jezebel, I think of her. The spirit of Jezebel prowling around the Capitol, seeking whom it can devour!

96 posted on 01/11/2003 1:18:36 PM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: xzins
After making such a blasphemous statement we can be assured that when Ramsey Clark stands before the Throne of God on the day of judgment, he will truly understand the meaning of the word terror.
97 posted on 01/12/2003 9:01:21 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
After making such a blasphemous statement we can be assured that when Ramsey Clark stands before the Throne of God on the day of judgment, he will truly understand the meaning of the word terror. 97 posted on 01/12/2003 9:01 AM PST by P-Marlowe [ Post Reply

DITTO !!

98 posted on 01/12/2003 9:23:49 AM PST by timestax
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To: H8DEMS
They need to start stresssing the importance of not taking things out of context in journalism school. This title is way out of bounds when you read the text in which it was used.

He DID NOT call Christ a terrorist, hes said OTHERS MIGHT call him one, for thrashing the money changers in the temple...

Geez... (and I usually dont defend dumbocrats)


99 posted on 01/12/2003 9:29:19 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: timestax
bump
100 posted on 01/12/2003 9:30:24 AM PST by timestax
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