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Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]
SHOTGUN NEWS ^ | 1/11/03 | Amicus Populi

Posted on 01/11/2003 10:15:11 AM PST by tpaine

Ms. Nancy Snell Swickard - Publisher Shotgun News P. O. Box 669, Hastings, NE 68902

Dear Ms. Swickard,

I was very distressed to see the remark of one of your subscribers which you quoted on page 8 of your October 1 (1996) issue. The support of the "Drug War" by anyone who values the 2nd Amendment, and the rest of the Bill of Rights, is the most dangerous error of thinking in the politics of the "gun control" debate. This error is extremely widespread, although there have been some recent signs that some Americans are seeing through the propaganda of the Drug Warriors which affects all levels of our society.

Sadly, major players in the defense of the 2nd Amendment (like the NRA) show no signs of awareness of the part played by the Drug War in our present hysteria over violence. This is a serious error, because the violence produced by the Drug War is one of the main reasons that a majority of American citizens support gun control. Without the majority of a citizenry frightened by endemic violence, Mr. Clinton and his allies in the Congress would not enjoy the power they now possess to attack the Bill of Rights.

To understand the effect of the Drug War, we must understand it for what it is: the second Prohibition in America in this Century. I do not need to remind anyone who knows our recent history what a disaster the first Prohibition was. It is a classic example of the attempt to control a vice--drunkenness--by police power. It made all use of alcohol a case of abuse. It produced such an intense wave of violence that it gave a name--The Roaring Twenties--to an entire decade. It lead to the establishment of powerful criminal empires, to widespread corruption in police and government, and to a surge of violence and gunfire all over the land. And it produced a powerful attack on the Bill of Rights, including the most successful campaign of gun control laws in America up to that time.

Before the first Prohibition criminalized the trade in alcohol, liquor dealers were ordinary businessmen; after 1920 they were all violent criminals fighting for their territories. We had gang wars, and drive-by shootings, and the use of machine guns by criminals.

We now have the same effects of the first Prohibition in the present Drug War, and Americans appear to be sleepwalking through it with no apparent understanding of what is happening. It is testimony to the truth of Santayana's famous remark that those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it. We must understand that this has all happened before, and for the same reasons.

It is essential that defenders of the 2nd Amendment understand that the whole Bill of Rights is under attack by the Drug War, and that assaults on the 2nd Amendment are a natural part of that trend. What is the main premise of a gun-control law? It is that guns are implements which are too dangerous to entrust to the citizenry. What is the main premise of Drug Prohibition? It is that drugs are substances which are too dangerous to entrust to the citizenry. Both lines of reasoning say that because a few people abuse something, all Americans must be treated like children or irresponsibles. All use is abuse.

This is an extremely dangerous idea for a government, and it leads inevitably to tyranny. It is a natural consequence that such thinking will lead to attacks on the Bill of Rights, because that is the chief defense in the Constitution against abuses of government power.

Since the beginning of the Drug War, no article of the Bill of Rights has been spared from attack. There has been an enormous increase in police power in America, with a steady erosion of protections against unreasonable search and seizure, violations of privacy, confiscation of property, and freedom of speech. We have encouraged children to inform on their parents and we tolerate urine tests as a condition of employment for anyone. All who question the wisdom of Drug Prohibition are immediately attacked and silenced. These are all violations of the Bill of Rights. Are we surprised when the 2nd Amendment is attacked along with the others?

We understand that opponents of the 2nd Amendment exaggerate the dangers of firearms and extrapolate the actions of deranged persons and criminals to all gun owners. That is their method of propaganda. Do we also know that Drug Warriors exaggerate the hazards of drug use--"all use is abuse'--in the same way formerly done with alcohol, and extrapolate the condition of addicts to all users of drugs? That is their method of propaganda. Most Americans are convinced by both arguments, and both arguments depend on the public's ignorance. That is why discussion and dissent is inhibited.

Most Americans are moving to the idea that drugs and guns are evil and should be prohibited. Encouraging one way of thinking supports the other because the logic of the arguments is the same.

Why not prohibit a dangerous evil? If every drinker is a potential alcoholic, every drug-user a future addict, and every gun-owner a potential killer, why not ban them all? There is no defense against this logic except to challenge the lies that sit at the root of the arguments. Those are the lies promoted by the prevailing propaganda in support of all Prohibition. We cannot oppose one and support the other. To do so undermines our efforts because all these movements walk on the same legs.

If we do not explain to people that the fusillade of gunfire in America, the return to drive-by shooting, and our bulging prisons, come from the criminalizing of commerce in illegal drugs, we cannot expect them to listen to a plea that we must tolerate some risk in defense of liberty.

Why should we tolerate, for the sake of liberty, the risk of a maniac shooting a dozen people, when we cannot tolerate the risk that a drug-user will become an addict?

In fact, very few gun-owners are mass murderers and a minority of drug-users are addicts, but people are easily persuaded otherwise and easily driven to hysteria by exaggerating dangers. What addict would be a violent criminal if he could buy his drug from a pharmacy for its real price instead of being driven to the inflated price of a drug smuggler? How many cigarette smokers would become burglars or prostitutes if their habits cost them $200 per day? How many criminal drug empires could exist if addicts could buy a drug for its real cost? And, without Prohibition, what smuggler's territory would be worth a gang war? And why isn't this obvious to all of us?

It is because both guns and drugs have become fetishes to some people in America. They blame guns and drugs for all the intractable ills of society, and they never rest until they persuade the rest of us to share their deranged view of the evil power in an inanimate object.

They succeed, mainly, by lies and deception. They succeed by inducing the immediate experience of anxiety and horror by the mere mention of the words: Guns! Drugs! Notice your reactions. Once that response is in place, it is enough to make us accept any remedy they propose. An anxious person is an easy mark. They even persuade us to diminish the most precious possession of Americans, the one marveled at by every visitor and cherished by every immigrant, and the name of which is stamped on every coin we mint--Liberty. They say that liberty is just too dangerous or too expensive. They say we will have to do with less of it for our own good. That is the price they charge for their promise of our security.

Sincerely,

Amicus Populi


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To: Wonder Warthog
There is no right to regulate or ban either drugs or alcohol in the Constitution

George Washington and the Founding Fathers disagreed with your ill-informed viewpoint. Ever hear of the Whiskey Rebellion?

61 posted on 01/11/2003 4:36:43 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
The whiskey rebellion was mainly about taxes. - Read a book.
62 posted on 01/11/2003 4:43:10 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Only an idiot would think that you can tax an item without regulations.
63 posted on 01/11/2003 4:57:13 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Wonder Warthog:
"There is no right to regulate or ban either drugs or alcohol in the Constitution."


George Washington and the Founding Fathers disagreed with your ill-informed viewpoint. Ever hear of the Whiskey Rebellion?
61 -roscoe-

Only an idiot would characterize WW's viewpoint as "ill-informed".
64 posted on 01/11/2003 5:04:22 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine

65 posted on 01/11/2003 5:07:36 PM PST by thisiskubrick
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To: thisiskubrick

66 posted on 01/11/2003 5:11:13 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
"George Washington and the Founding Fathers disagreed with your ill-informed viewpoint. Ever hear of the Whiskey Rebellion?"

Yup, I sure have. The Whiskey Rebellion wasn't about banning or regulating liquor--it was about laying and collecting a tax on it. Same logic as was used to TAX (not ban) fully automatic firearms when that law was passed back in the 1930's. And, just to reinforce the ACCURACY of the connection between the Drug War and the pending Gun confiscation, the fedgov has no Constitutional power to ban "assault weapons" either.

The Constitutionally illegal "War on Drugs" and the equally unConstitutional but just beginning "War on Guns" both point out that the anti-Federalists were right--the chains binding the federal government were NOT strong enough.

67 posted on 01/11/2003 5:20:35 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: tpaine
"Not so, under the Supremacy clause, or under 'due process' of the 14th. - States can no more prohibit drugs, -- than they can guns. -- Study the threads posted article."

Well, I had in mind the pre-Civil War Constitution, but wrt the 14th Amendment, I agree with your (and Justice Harlan's) position

68 posted on 01/11/2003 5:25:03 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: thisiskubrick
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'Stan', -- I really wish you would avoid posting inane graphics.
It's a form of spamming a thread, imo. Please, if you object to something here, have the guts to say so. -- Unless you enjoy being in the same league as roscoe, cultural jihad, & cohort.
69 posted on 01/11/2003 5:27:15 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Wonder Warthog
The Whiskey Rebellion wasn't about banning or regulating liquor

Stills had to be licensed, barrels had to stamped, logbooks had to be kept on site. Only an idiot would think that you can tax an item without regulations.

70 posted on 01/11/2003 5:28:17 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Wonder Warthog
Thanks. -- And regards.
71 posted on 01/11/2003 5:29:26 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Roscoe
Ironic that US Grant was the president during the Whiskey rebellion ...
72 posted on 01/11/2003 5:33:01 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: Roscoe
Semantics
73 posted on 01/11/2003 5:33:36 PM PST by tpaine (Petty minds play semantic games)
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To: clamper1797

LOL! Whiskey Rebellion: 1794.
Ulysses S. Grant: Born in 1822.
Bonus question: "Who is buried in Grant's Tomb?"

74 posted on 01/11/2003 6:39:28 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: clamper1797
Ironic that US Grant was the president during the Whiskey rebellion ... = Ironic that US Grant was NOT the president during the Whiskey rebellion ....

It was meant as a joke

75 posted on 01/11/2003 6:44:31 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: clamper1797

President Grant(?) reviewing the troops during the Whiskey Rebellion

76 posted on 01/11/2003 6:46:39 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: clamper1797

OIC

77 posted on 01/11/2003 6:47:55 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: tpaine
Then you should realise that supporting the drug war works against your self interest.

Who said I support the drug war? Where are you reading THAT from? You're all over the road.

78 posted on 01/11/2003 6:51:17 PM PST by Puppage
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To: Puppage
Then you should realise that supporting the drug war works against your self interest.

Who said I support the drug war? Where are you reading THAT from? You're all over the road.

Legalization is not the way.
14 posted on 01/11/2003 11:22 AM PST by Puppage

Sorry, the FACT that I do not agree with the legalization of drugs does NOT make me a socialist.
36 posted on 01/11/2003 2:46 PM PST by Puppage

________________________________

Case closed. --- Make up another story.

79 posted on 01/11/2003 7:06:34 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Cultural Jihad
CJ, this is a major triumph for you & roscoe!!

You have proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that G. Washington was President before that whiskey soaked U.S. Grant even thought about stealing the strawberries.
80 posted on 01/11/2003 7:14:22 PM PST by tpaine
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