Death Watch: One of the earliest Christian cultures totters on the edge of extinction in Turkey

Christianity Today, January 21, 2002, Vol. 47, No. 1, Page 44 ^ | 01/10/2003 | Thomas C. Oden

[Destro]

Many of those in the above service were also visitors. In addition it must be pointed out that in a city in which Greek Christianity was the basis for its foundation the number of Greek Christians that could be mustered were only a few hundred only.

[Destro]

That was the wrong answer in a thread about Muslim Turks subjugating native Christian populations!

[a_Turk]

Religion is not our concern. We will subjugate whoever stands in our way.

Weak dastros can move out.

[Destro]

What does that prove other than that we have an amoral Foreign Policy not based on making alliances based on Christian principles. Saudi Arabia is a huge playground for Americans (or at least it used to be).

[a_Turk]

>>amoral Foreign Policy not based on making alliances based on Christian principles

LOL! I guess religious principles don't hold up against high oil prices. Religion plays second fiddle to politics and when it doesn't, you get anomalies like Bin Laden.

[Destro]

Well you Turk Muslims need to subjugate some Christians quick, seeing as they were the only ones in your little Sultanate that worked. Self-reliance and civilization are hard on a Turk Muslim bred people used to having Christian dhimmi slaves to do their work for them.

[a_Turk]

Slaves came in handy to all sorts of civilizations. Even to Christian ones back in the day. Why not bitch about Christians enslaving Christians? Or how about Christians castrating Christians for export to Turkey or to keep singing in church choirs?

Go suck an egg..

[Destro]

Christian principles eventually abolished Slavery. The enslavement of non-Muslims is enshrined in the Koran, which is the foundation for Turkish culture.

[a_Turk]

LOL! What an ignorant. The foundation of Turkish culture is ones family, transportation, and armaments. The old staple food is tenderized horse meat and the drink is fermented horse milk.

And all you have is horse sh!t. Comes with the territory, I suppose.

[Mortimer Snavely]

Destro, you are flat out flat Earth nuts.

[vooch]

Posted by a_Turk to vooch
On News/Activism 01/16/2003 10:00 AM EST #40 of 50

Vooch:Why does the Turkish government refuse to allow Christian worship at the Hagia Sophia ?

a_Turk: Go there and pray, nobody will stop you. I am the rightful owner now, rightful by the right of conquest.

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Thank you for illuminating the issue so clearly.

Do you wish the Osmani slave markets were still able to sell young Christian women into 'harems' ? After all the Osmani's still had active slave markets as late as 1912.

Those were the days weren't they a_Turk ?

[vooch]

.........methinks you have condemned Destro when you really meant to condemn a_Turk.......a_Turk is advocating the conquest ( and by implication destruction ) of Christian shrines..........while Destro is merely pointing out a_Turk's position on the matter

[Mortimer Snavely]

Destro and others of his ilk drag these ancestral grudges on for hundreds of years. Reduced to its logical conclusion, these preoccupations require that damned near the entire British Isles would have to be depopulated, most of the inhabitants returning to Scandanavia, France, and Northern Germany, not to mention all the descendants of immigrants currently living in the US of A. The Battle of Manzikert decided the population of Anatolia back in 1071. Istanbul was taken in 1453. Turks have been living in Cyprus since the late 16th Century, but in the weird and adolescent imaginations of the Turcophobe community of this forum, nearly a thousand years of habitation is irrelevant, and the country should just be cancelled immediately.

a_Turk is pointing out a historical fact. In the sane, adult world, accepting and dealing with ancient history as ancient history is a to-be-expected characteristic of healthy thinking. These obsessive rants against our Turkish Allies are pretty sick, in the clinical sense of the term.

[Destro]

So what? Stalin was our ally once, too.

[Mortimer Snavely]

YAWN......hmmph....... zzzzzzzz....

[vooch]

actually NOT ancient history. The discrimination and attacks on Christians are happening right now. Current policy is what is being questioned, not centuries old events.

And FYI, until 1918 the majority population of Instanpol was Christian.

[Mortimer Snavely]

In 1918 Istanbul was also occupied by the British and the French. As for contemporary discrimination against Christians, I guess you really believe that. Hell, you're crazy enough.

[vooch]

In 1918 Istanbul was also occupied by the British and the French

really now, by how many troops ? and for how long ?

are you suggesting that the English & French forces expelled the majority Christian population at that time ?

[farmfriend]

Did you read this?

[Mortimer Snavely]

I'm suggesting that you're just another adolescent irritant who has an idiot's notion of history. Read the books. I mean, really, this was in all the newspapers. Turkey was on the losing side of the war, don'tcha know.