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Pro-life majorities are overwhelming
ConservativePetitions.com ^ | January 15, 2003 | Janet Folger

Posted on 01/16/2003 8:33:03 AM PST by Remedy

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To: TontoKowalski
The left has been using polling to great advantage for how long...time for us to use it better ourselves.

Looks to me like this was a highly legitimate poll, done well within commonly accepted parameters.

I say hooray!

21 posted on 01/16/2003 8:57:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: copycat
He's right. Here's a couple of the questions:

Some 1,000 adults were asked whether, in light of medical advances that reveal the unborn child's body and facial features in detail, "are you in favor of restoring legal protection for unborn children?" Sixty-eight percent of the randomly surveyed adults said they were in favor of legal protection, with 44 percent in strong agreement of such action.

Almost the same number — 66 percent — said they favored nominees to the Supreme Court "who would uphold laws that restore legal protection to unborn children."

It's a skewed question. They didn't use the word abortion, and there is a reason for that.
22 posted on 01/16/2003 8:58:37 AM PST by sharktrager
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To: TontoKowalski
If this 70% were a genuine measure of public opinion, there is no way the Dems' Presidential hopefuls would be observing the Roe anniversary at the NARAL celebration, and President Bush would surely head down to the Mall to rally the Right-to-Lifers instead of just sending a statement. In truth, the country is much more divided, though perhaps just a little bit more pro-life than in the past. But if this had been a pro-abort poll, I'll bet they could have gotten more than 70% to agree to something like this: "Decisions about the course of a pregnancy should be made by the woman involved and her doctor, without interference by the government." That's how push-polls work.
23 posted on 01/16/2003 9:02:26 AM PST by madprof98
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To: sharktrager
They did not ask if the people favored legalizing abortions, they asked about restoring legal protection. The phrasing is very likely to result in an affirmative answer.

I agree. The poll doesn't say anything about overturning Roe v Wade. I'm sure if they had asked if Roe v Wade should be overturned, the majority of the answer would be negative.

As much as I would love to believe the results of this poll, I cannot.

24 posted on 01/16/2003 9:04:03 AM PST by Wphile (I hate the Senate democrats!)
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To: sharktrager

They did not ask if the people favored legalizing abortions, they asked about restoring legal protection. The phrasing is very likely to result in an affirmative answer.

Sometimes you have to clarify issues for them. Lead, follow or get out of the way.

 

Testimony of Gianna Jessen

Hearing on H.R. 4292, the "Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2000"

House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution

July 20, 2000

My name is Gianna Jessen. I would like to say thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I count it no small thing to speak the truth. I depend solely on the grace of God to do this. I am 23 years old. I was aborted and I did not die. My biological mother was 7 months pregnant when she went to Planned Parenthood in southern California and they advised her to have a late-term saline abortion.

A saline abortion is a solution of salt saline that is injected into the mothers womb. The baby then gulps the solution, it burns the baby inside and out and then the mother is to deliver a dead baby within 24 hours.

This happened to me! I remained in the solution for approximately 18 hours and was delivered ALIVE on April 6, 1977 at 6:00 am in a California abortion clinic. There were young women in the room who had already been given their injections and were waiting to deliver dead babies. When they saw me they experienced the horror of murder. A nurse called an ambulance, while the abortionist was not yet on duty, and had me transferred to the hospital. I weighed a mere two pounds. I was saved by the sheer power of Jesus Christ.

Ladies and gentleman I should be blind, burned.....I should be dead! And yet, I live! Due to a lack of oxygen supply during the abortion I live with cerebral palsy.

When I was diagnosed with this, all I could do was lie there. "They" said that was all I would ever do! Through prayer and hard work by my foster mother, I was walking at age 31/2 with the help of a walker and leg braces. At that time I was also adopted into my wonderful family. Today I am left only with a slight limp. I no longer have need of a walker or leg braces.

I am so thankful for my Cerebral Palsy. It allows me to really depend on Jesus for everything.

When the freedoms of one group of helpless citizens are infringed upon, such as the unborn, the newborn, the disabled and so called "imperfect," what we do not realize is that our freedoms as a NATION and Individuals are in great peril.

I come today in favor of this Bill, in favor of the Protection of Life. I come to speak on behalf of the infants who have died and for those appointed to death. Learned Hand, a well respected American Jurist (within our own century) said: " The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right; the spirit of liberty is the spirit which seeks to understand the minds of other men and women; the spirit of liberty is the spirit which weighs their interests alongside its own without bias; the spirit of liberty remembers that not even a sparrow falls to earth unheeded; the spirit of liberty is the spirit of Him who, near 2000 years ago, taught mankind that lesson it has never learned, but has never quite forgotten; that there is a kingdom where the least shall be heard and considered side by side with the greatest."

Where is the soul of America?! Members of this committee: where is YOUR heart? How can you deal with the issues of a nation without examining her soul? A murderous spirit will stop at nothing until it has devoured a nation. Psalm 53:1-3 says: "The fool has said in his heart, 'there is no God'; they are corrupt, and have done abominable iniquity; there is none who does good. God looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God. Every one of

them has turned aside; they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one."

Adolph Hitler once said: "The receptive ability of the great masses is only very limited, their understanding is small; on the other hand their forgetfulness is great. This being so, all effective propaganda should be limited to a very few points which in turn, should be used as slogans until the very last man is able to imagine what is meant by such words." Today's slogans are: "a woman's right to choose" and "freedom of choice," etcetera.

There was once a man speaking from hell (recorded in Luke 16) who said "I am tormented in this flame." Hell is real. So is Satan, and the same hatred that crucified Jesus 2000 years ago, still resides in the hearts of sinful people today. Why do you think this whole room trembles when I mention the name Jesus Christ? It is because He is REAL! He is able to give grace for repentance and forgiveness to you and to America. We are under the judgement of God - but we can be saved through Christ. Romans 5:8-10 "But God demonstrates his own love towards us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For when we were ENEMIES we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life."

Death did not prevail over me....and I am so Thankful!!

25 posted on 01/16/2003 9:04:30 AM PST by Remedy
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To: madprof98

NARAL Goes 1-for-20 in Election
By David Freddoso (c) Human Events, 2002

In spite of nationwide victories for pro-life candidates, National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) President Kate Michelman issued a statement November 6 that "it would be a serious mistake for politicians to read yesterday's results as a mandate to insert themselves in women's personal choices."

Michelman is in denial. Earlier this year, NARAL picked its 20 "key" House and Senate races. In each, it supported its candidate (all of whom were Democrats) with cash and endorsements. Only one "key" NARAL candidate-Sen. Tom Harkin (D.-Iowa)-won. Ironically, that was over a pro-abortion Republican, outgoing Rep. Greg Ganske.

NARAL likely would have gone 1-for-21, but it did not change its web page to endorse Walter Mondale (D.) for Senate in Minnesota after the death of Paul Wellstone.

Here are NARAL's 20 "key" races, its endorsements and pre-election commentary. The source: NARAL's web site, www.naral.org.

State/District

NARAL Candidate

Opponent

NARAL Comments

Outcome

Ga. Senate

Max Cleland (D)

Saxby Chambliss (R)

"Cleland is rated 100% pro-choice by NARAL."

Chambliss, 53%-46%

Ga. 11

Roger Kahn (D)

Phil Gingrey (R)

". . .anti-choice State Senator Phil Gingrey. . ."

Gingrey, 52%-48%

Colo. Senate

Tom Strickland (D)

Wayne Allard (R)

"Strickland has made his pro-choice stand an important centerpiece of his campaign."

Allard, 51%-46%

Colo. 04

Stan Matsunaka (D)

Marilyn Musgrave (R)

"Matsunaka plans to make choice a key issue in the race."

Musgrave, 55%-42%

Colo. 07

Mike Feeley (D)

Bob Beauprez (R)

"Beauprez. . .supports a ban on abortion even in cases of rape or incest."

Beauprez, 47%-47%

Ia. Senate

Tom Harkin (D)

Greg Ganske (R)

Harkin is a "true leader on choice"

Harkin, 54%-44%

Mich. 09

David Fink (D)

Joe Knollenberg (R)

"David Fink is running [against] anti-choice U.S. Rep. Joe Knollenberg (R)."

Knollenberg, 58%-40%

Mich. 10

Carl Marlinga (D)

Candice Miller (R)

"Choice will be a defining issue between these candidates."

Miller, 63%-36%

Mo. Senate

Jean Carnahan (D)

Jim Talent (R)

"Anti-choice . . . will challenge Carnahan. . ."

Talent, 50%-49%

N.H.

Jean Shaheen (D)

John Sununu (R)

"Governor Shaheen [is] a former NARAL-NH volunteer."

Sununu, 51%-47%

N.H. 01

Martha Fuller Clark (D)

Jeb Bradley (R)

"[Clark] is a true pro-choice leader in the New Hampshire House."

Bradley, 58%-39%

N.J. 05

Anne Sumers (D)

Scott Garrett (R)

"Pro-choice Anne Sumers . . .will contrast with Garrett's socially conservative record."

Garrett, 60%-38%

N.J. 07

Tim Carden (D)

Mike Ferguson (R)

"Pro-choice . . . Tim Carden is challenging anti-choice U.S. Rep. Mike Ferguson."

Ferguson, 58%-41%

N.C. Senate

Erskine Bowles (D)

Elizabeth Dole (R)

"Dole's position . . .strongly opposes abortion except in cases of rape, incest and life endangerment."

Dole,54%-45%

Ore. Senate

Bill Bradbury (D)

Gordon Smith (R)

"Smith's staunch opposition to abortion rights is out of step with pro-choice Oregonians."

Smith, 56%-40%

Pa. 06

Dan Wofford (D)

Jim Gerlach (R)

". . .a 'bellwether' district. . ."

Gerlach, 51%-49%

Pa. 15

Ed O'Brien (D)

Pat Toomey (R)

"Congressional Democrats are so excited about O'Brien . . . "

Toomey, 57%-43%

Tex. Senate

Ron Kirk (D)

John Cornyn (R)

"Pro-choice Texans are galvanized behind Ron Kirk."

Cornyn, 55%-43%

Tex. 05

Ron Chapman (D)

Jeb Hensarling (R)

"Anti-choice Jeb Hensarling (R), a former aide to anti-choice U.S. Senator Phil Gramm. . ."

Hensarling, 58%-40%

S.C. Senate

Alex Sanders (D)

Lindsey Graham (R)

"Sanders is a former judge with a solid pro-choice record."

Graham, 54%-44%


26 posted on 01/16/2003 9:07:27 AM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Great post, and a great point!
27 posted on 01/16/2003 9:09:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Wphile
The Ex-abortionists:Why They Quit

As a young doctor in the early 1970s, Paul E. Jarrett, Jr., did a number of legal abortions. He began having doubts, though, after the urea-induced abortion of a mental patient. The child, weighing two pounds, was born alive, and the mother screamed, "My baby's alive! My baby's alive!" Dr. Jarrett later said, "I often wondered what we did for her mental status. That baby lived several days."

But it was a 1974 operation that "changed my mind about abortion forever." While doing a suction abortion, Jarrett found that the suction curette was obstructed by a torn-off fetal leg. So he changed techniques and dismembered the child with a ring forceps:

And as I brought out the rib cage, I looked and I saw a tiny, beating heart. And when I found the head of the baby, I looked squarely in the face of another human being-a human being that I'd just killed. I turned to the scrub nurse and said, "I'm sorry." But I just knew that I couldn't be a part of abortion any more.

28 posted on 01/16/2003 9:10:17 AM PST by Remedy
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To: EternalVigilance
Well, time will tell. If, as we all pray, Roe is overturned, then the decisions will revert to the states... in other words, overturning Roe will not outlaw abortion on the Federal level.

With the overturn of Roe, abortion will be the hottest hotbutton issue imaginable. We'll see how the people vote for State legislators.

29 posted on 01/16/2003 9:12:18 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: TontoKowalski
With the overturn of Roe, abortion will be the hottest hotbutton issue imaginable. We'll see how the people vote for State legislators.

Let's roll.

30 posted on 01/16/2003 9:15:28 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: All
Just tossing this issue around as how I perceive it as related to the world as a whole, of which we are all a part of at the present.

I think most were appalled by the stats on abortion after it was made legal. By now, many folks have met someone that has had an abortion and that someone "lives with it" every day as the second victim of the abortion. But there are third, fourth, fifth victims, grandmothers, grandfathers, brothers, sisters etc..and of course, fathers which are given NO CONSIDERATION whatsoever.

The thought of the Constitution implying "the murder of unborn babies" as an Individual Freedom is absurd. If that was the case and the only limitation is the age of the fetus, then that child is "owned" by you as only a "part" of your body. It's rather like cutting off your arm as being "useless" to you. It is reduced to a useless attachment and nothing more.

The nature of the fetus is the protection and nourishment by it's mother until such time as it can adapt to outside conditions. The fetus is in a purposeful state from the time of conception as that is when the protection, nourishment, growing process begins.

The problem becomes that YOU are not the owner (since no one can own another) but the present nurturer and protector. The criteria for an abortion is that you can destroy that part of your body as "OWNED" by you.

It takes two to begin this process and the male part of that relationship is also part "owner". Effectively, you are engaging in killing someone else's child at the same time. And if the child can have no "owner" than it belongs to the world and that is as it should be. That is the natural state of man.

Please note that because the lives of mother and child are involved simultaneously and there may be extenuating circumstances, the abortion issue and any "law" can never rest "totally free" of exceptions as is the case with all our laws, e.g. Murder is wrong except in self-defense.

31 posted on 01/16/2003 9:40:42 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: codder too
All 6 announced Dem Presidential Candidates conspirers to murder are planning on attending the NARAL "celebration".

Pro-death BABYKILLERS celebrating death.

Let's tell it like it is.


32 posted on 01/16/2003 10:05:51 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Sacajaweau

ÛPlease note that because the lives of mother and child are involved simultaneously and there may be extenuating circumstances, the abortion issue and any "law" can never rest "totally free" of exceptions as is the case with all our laws, e.g. Murder is wrong except in self-defense.Û

Is Abortion Murder?

  1. mur·der The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
  2. Kill To deprive of life

8. A Woman's Right over her Body?

10. Abortion in Cases of Rape, Incest, Health and Life of the Woman?

The Blackmun Wall is a listing of the women killed by legal abortions, along with information regarding the circumstances of their death. We named this project after Harry Blackmun, the Supreme Court justice who wrote the Roe v. Wade decision and launched America's Holocaust.

33 posted on 01/16/2003 12:42:23 PM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
With this information in hand, Republican politicians should put overturning Roe V. Wade at the top of their agenda and campaign specifically on this one issue!
34 posted on 01/16/2003 12:46:25 PM PST by JebBush2008
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To: ken5050
Off subject - how do you put a tag line by your name?
35 posted on 01/16/2003 1:06:11 PM PST by 3catsanadog
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To: JebBush2008

Overturning Supreme Court Decisions with Constitutional Amendments

The Supreme Court's power of judicial review allows the court the power of interpreting the Constitution and determining whether any act of the Congress, the executive, or the state governments is in violation of the Constitution. Four of the twenty-seven amendments to the Constitution have overturned Supreme Court decisions. Two other proposed but unratified amendments also sought to overturn decisions of the Supreme Court.

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States with respect to the right to life. (Introduced in House)

HJ 20 IH

107th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. J. RES. 20

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States with respect to the right to life.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 14, 2001

Mr. OBERSTAR (for himself, Mr. AKIN, Mr. ARMEY, Mr. BAKER, Mr. BARCIA, Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland, Mr. DEMINT, Mr. GREEN of Wisconsin, Ms. HART, Mr. HAYES, Mr. HULSHOF, Mr. LIPINSKI, Mr. LUCAS of Kentucky, Mr. PICKERING, Mr. SHIMKUS, Mr. SHOWS, Mr. TANCREDO, and Mr. TERRY) introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


JOINT RESOLUTION

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States with respect to the right to life.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, to be valid only if ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of final passage of this joint resolution:

ARTICLE--

`SECTION 1. With respect to the right to life, the word `person' as used in this article and in the fifth and fourteenth articles of amendment to the Constitution of the United States applies to all human beings irrespective of age, health, function, or condition of dependency, including their unborn offspring at every stage of their biological development.

`SECTION 2. No unborn person shall be deprived of life by any person: Provided, however, That nothing in this article shall prohibit a law permitting only those medical procedures required to prevent the death of the mother.

`SECTION 3. The Congress and the several States shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.'.


36 posted on 01/16/2003 1:27:57 PM PST by Remedy
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