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Things are not as bad as they seem . . . They are Worse, Much Worse
The Daily Reckoning, via 321 Gold ^ | January 16, 2003 | Richard Daughty (The Mogambo Guru)

Posted on 01/16/2003 4:10:07 PM PST by Cicero

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To: ladysusan
Caught that did you? ;)
21 posted on 01/16/2003 4:58:54 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: Cicero
When you've said everything, you've really said nothing.
22 posted on 01/16/2003 5:00:08 PM PST by BfloGuy
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To: Momforgold
Your opinion, please? It kind of makes sense...

BTW, isn't the price of gasoline NOT in the inflation index at all?
23 posted on 01/16/2003 5:05:53 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: Cicero
I would normally say, "this ought to be required reading in High Scool Economics classes" except:

1. There is no such thing as a High School Economics class anymore...

2. You would find precious few teachers who could understand it, much less teach it...

3. You won't find many high schoolers that could comprehend the concepts given here, especially as it is devoid of such familiars as Self-Esteem, Sex Education, socialistic blabberings and multiple choice answers only... and

4. It's way toooo looOOoong to hold their attention, which is about five minutes on the best of subjects (except when discussing sex, of course)...

Perhaps Home Schoolers will read it? They are the ones that will probably end up saving the country anyway.

In any case, hold my place while I'm out. I'm heading to the coin shop to buy some Gold Eagles!

24 posted on 01/16/2003 5:33:42 PM PST by Gritty
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To: MonroeDNA
Lennie...Lennie.....


It's a real fave around here
25 posted on 01/16/2003 5:46:50 PM PST by ladysusan
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To: MonroeDNA
There are moves afoot in several parts of the world to get away from the dollar. Whether they take hold or not, I don't know. China certainly is moving into gold. They have a HUGE balance of payment surplus with the US, and they are still parking almost all of it in treasury paper, but they are starting to put some of it into gold as well.

The other initiative is the Indonesian-organized plan to develop a gold dinar for Muslim countries. Of these two, I think the Chinese move is a good deal more serious, because the Chinese understand money and trade.
26 posted on 01/16/2003 5:48:16 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Gritty
OK. Yes, it's over the top stylistically (which I rather enjoy), but in fact there's a lot of basic economic sense involved.
27 posted on 01/16/2003 5:50:18 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Cicero
So they are putting hard currency into betting against the dollar?

I'm not sure I like the sound of this...
28 posted on 01/16/2003 5:50:31 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: ladysusan
Stay Puffed!
29 posted on 01/16/2003 5:52:12 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Any guy who talks about massive inflation of the money
supply during a recession is a Keynesian. Kudlow is just
too stupid to know what he is.
30 posted on 01/16/2003 5:53:26 PM PST by Trickyguy
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To: Trickyguy
I sincerely Keynes is in hell

When someone complained that Keynes's recommendations would lead to inflation in the long run, he famously replied, "In the long run, we are all dead."

He was right about that. By the time the chickens have finished coming home to roost, Keynes will have been dead quite a long time.

Behind Keynes's attitude as revealed in this comment is, as I once read in "Culture Wars," the fact that he was a homosexual. As such, he was chiefly interested in power and pleasure in his own lifetime, and had small concern for the future. He had no family, no children, and no particular interest in what might happen to other people's children when they grew up--or their children's children.

31 posted on 01/16/2003 5:55:26 PM PST by Cicero
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To: MonroeDNA
For many years the media worried intensely about the balance of payments deficit, and then one day they stopped worrying. During clinton's eight years as president, with few exceptions, the deficit grew virtually every month he was in office.

People ceased to worry because where else could foreigners park their money but right back here in the U.S.A.?

But that is a situation that can't possibly last indefinitely. We've rediscovered homelessness and SUVs. I think we're about ready to rediscover the evil nature of the current accounts deficit, which is truly massive.
32 posted on 01/16/2003 5:58:55 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Cicero
Exactly right. Keynes was a self-professed immoralist and
a homosexual rapist of young boys. Even Hayek thought his
short-term view was due to his homsexuality. Everything he
wrote or believed is garbage and should be tossed in the
trash. And eternal shame on the economics "profession" for
teaching this crap instead of real, Austrian economics.
33 posted on 01/16/2003 5:59:50 PM PST by Trickyguy
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To: MonroeDNA
ROFL....

I tried to think of something that could never, ever, hurt anyone......
34 posted on 01/16/2003 6:37:49 PM PST by ladysusan
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To: Cicero
Well, I may agree with a lot he says. But it's a rather long rant to get through, and when he shows not the slightest understanding of his first point about what is counted in "savings", he lost me.
35 posted on 01/16/2003 8:03:25 PM PST by jammer (We are doing to ourselves what Bin Laden could only dream of doing.)
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To: Cicero; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave; RnMomof7
QUOTE #1 One egregious result was that, inevitably, literally every thing either animal, vegetable, or mineral in the nation, was subjected to an incomprehensibly massive collection of ridiculous, even self-contradictory laws, the sheer mass of which is so voluminous that no single man can even lift it off of the ground.

QUOTE #2 There is no government regulation, no matter how plausible it initially appears, that will not eventually be applied by some bureaucrat in a way that defies common sense.

QUOTE #3 During the Second World War, raw materials soared 482%.

First of, thanks for posting this rant...there is a scary amount of truth in his musings. Now to the collection of quotes I have snipped out. As a veteran of the spotted owl wars, I currently serve as the prey base of numerous State and federal agencies. We are to the point here in California where the cost of acquiring and complying with timber harvest permits now equals or exceeds the value of the timber. This situation has all but collapsed California's timber industry, with many companies selling off their California lands and shifting their operations to more business friendly climates ... like New Zealand, Canada and Australia. So in my own limited experience in dealing with the one sixth of the work force that suckles at the government teat, I can tell you that regulating everything as stated in quote 1, inevitibly leads to the reality of quote 2.

My question to you Cicero (and others) is: given that excessive regulation has pushed commodity production off-shore, are we now in a situation in which we can't capitilize on increases in commodity prices? If regulation is preventing production, doesn't it stand to reason that reducing regulations is the only way out of the mess we are in? I find it odd that regulation ... especially environmental regulation... has become the third rail of american politics. To even question it is to invite criticism and personal attacks...and nobody wants to talk about it.

36 posted on 01/16/2003 10:16:40 PM PST by forester (will cut trees for food)
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To: forester
"...and nobody wants to talk about it."

I'm worn right down to the nub from talkin about it! Nobody wants to HEAR it! We all have a right to speak freely, but nobody has to listen!!!

37 posted on 01/16/2003 11:09:39 PM PST by SierraWasp (A tag line is sorta like my stinger!!!)
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To: forester
To even question it is to invite criticism and personal attacks...and nobody wants to talk about it.

I guess this confirms it; I must be a nobody.

38 posted on 01/16/2003 11:28:19 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex to be managed by central planning.)
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To: SierraWasp; Carry_Okie
Sorry guys, I should have said that something along the lines that most folks don't seam to care about the situation...that is, until it affects them.
39 posted on 01/17/2003 7:57:09 AM PST by forester (will cut trees for food)
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To: forester
Now now, it was a joke; but I was poking at your pessimism that, while richly deserved, is probably destructive to its larger purpose. It's not up to us to "make it happen." All we can do is our best. The rest is up to you-know-Who.
40 posted on 01/17/2003 8:24:06 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex to be managed by central planning.)
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