Church's sign has Muslims outraged -''Jesus Forbade Murder. Muhammad Approved Murder. Surah 8:65.''

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[Dead Dog]

Find any singe phrase in the OT or NT that orders one to kill the non-christians, or christians that have lost faith.

[HarryDunne]

Read my other posts, and try to calm down.

[daniel boob]

Maybe you should re-read your first post. You said:

The bible has more than one reference to genocide, in which a race was obliterated with God's blessing.

We just want an example.

[DeathfromBelow]

http://www.usc.edu
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/koran.html
http://www.princeton.edu/~humcomp/qurans.html
http://www.soundvision.com/Info/quran/english.asp

nuff said.

[CCWoody]

BTW, not to nit-pick too much, but you might want to actually get your cites directly from the Bible. Otherwise, you end up looking like an idiot or worse, somebody who intentionally misquotes scripture for his own God hating ends.

http://bible.gospelcom.net
http://blueletterbible.org

[jpsb]

FYI, Arabic numbers come from India.

[Hodar]

We just want an example

Old Testament, say 'Hi' to any Amelekites you should meet.

[Morrigan]

I think that the point of the sign is not to just pull a verse that looks bad and put it on display. I think the point of the billboard, and the point of many on this forum, is that there is a huge difference between Mohammed and Jesus. Jesus never preached any genocide, or crazy crap like Mohammed did, as far as I know. It isn't a matter of Bible or Koran quotes, it is a comparison between Jesus and Mohammed. The Florida church is expressing why they think Jesus is better than Mohammed based on the teachings of the two men.

[A2J]

Its amazing how weak the faith of many on FR must be that they "cringe" at the idea that there is a competing faith out there.

That's because most people's faith resides in their heads, where it can be attacked and possibly won over with persuasive arguments, instead of in their hearts where it can never be conquered and for which one is ready to die for.

[CCWoody]

However, your single minded attack on me illustrates your inability to reason outside the confines of Christianity. ~ Hodar

And now, Hodar's babble from his homepage:


Conservative, aburpt, and logical. I hold religion to be a deeply personal issue, and never a public one. Those who would espouse their religion, faith or superstitions upon the public, are to be more feared than terrorists at large.

Woody.

[Dave S]

Well, then, we shouldn't complain when they smash a plane into a buidling then.

Or when McVeigh blows up the Federal building. Muhammad has been dead for over a thousand years. Individuals committed these crimes.

[mil-vet]

"Jesus Forbade Murder. Matthew 26:52. Muhammad Approved Murder. Surah 8:65."

Ah, "HATE speech" - defined as telling the truth to those who do not want to hear or know the truth.

Stay vigilent, stay armed, and NEVER trust a muslim or a liberal (both are terrorists, they differ only in technique and weaponry.)

[AppyPappy]

So, according to Hodar, people who talk about their religion are more fearsome that people who blow up airplanes and kill thousands.

People like Hodar scare me.

[secretagent]

Thanks!

[SauronOfMordor]

The bible has more than one reference to genocide, in which a race was obliterated with God's blessing. If selected verses were taken out of context in the bible (murder, incest, genocide) and contrasted against 'good' verses in any other religon, Christianity would look bad.

The violent passages you refer to in the Old Testament, have been superceded by the doctrine of peace in the New Testament.

The peaceful pasages in the Quran were superceded by the later-written passages urging violence against unbelievers

[AppyPappy]

Never underestimate the power of the written and spoken word. Advertisers spend billions to influence people's behavior because it WORKS.

[BureaucratusMaximus]

Did you catch where he pretty much said all Germans in 1940 were Nazis?

Why is that so shocking? And I might clarify...that most German's living in Germany in the 1940's were Nazis or supported the Nazi Party, just as most Islamics support terrorism against Israel/America/capitalism/freedom.

Its not hard to imagine many on this thread holding a gun to a non-christian's heads and demanding they renounce their religion or die. FR seems to be full of the most un-christian christians I have ever seen.

First off...I never claimed to be Christian, so your blind judgement of me is unwarranted. Second off...most Christians I know have a pretty good idea and perspective of what good and evil is...obviously you don't. The pastor of the said church does, and is willing to stand up for what is good without worrying about appeasing or offending; kudos to him. Third off...we'll see how "christian" people are when their loved ones are seen jumping from a burning building, dying in a hijacked plane, suffering from radiation poisoning, or perhaps picking the scabs from smallpox sores. Appeasement is so much more attractive isn't it?

[Hodar]

Find any singe phrase in the OT or NT that orders one to kill the non-christians, or christians that have lost faith.

And would you do a patent search on mono-stable nucleotides? What does that have to do with anything? My point has been (sheesh .... 10th time?) is when anyone takes a single verse, and uses it out of context, it can be unfair. See post #62.

[Kenny Bunk]

Bill, you are taking the words of Allah's Prophet, Muhammed, May Peace be upon Him, way out of context here.

If you will but open your lying infidel eyes and see the truth of Q'ran, you will have everlasting peace. love and happiness. But Allah and the Prophet Muhammed, May Peace be Upon Him, are not cruel. Should you choose not to convert, Islam graciously offers you, as it has many hundreds of thousands of Christians in the Sudan, East Timor, Kosovo, Pakistan, and oh so many other places, the peace of Christian Martyrdom, and a place in Paradise as a slave of one of the Faithful.