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Church's sign has Muslims outraged -''Jesus Forbade Murder. Muhammad Approved Murder. Surah 8:65.''
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Posted on 01/17/2003 6:11:48 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: Dave S
well spoken
To: McNoggin
Except that abortion clinics and gay bars aren't bombed by "Christians". They are bombed by pro-lifers and anti-gays. The guys who killed Matthew Shepard and shot up the bar in Roanoke Va seemed to have no religious background.
The 9/11 guys did it in the name of Allah as do the terrorists in Israel and throughout the world. Christians don't massacre in the name of God.
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:06:18 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If you can't beat 'em, beat 'em anyway)
To: twntaipan
Chose them from the New Testament, if you will please Do you disavow the Old Testament? Or do you only accept the book of Daniel because it fits with fundementalist fantasies about the tribulation. Christ was a Jew and preached from the Torah. Christ was the fulfillment of the Old Testament.
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:07:27 AM PST
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Dave S
To: Dave S
Its amazing how weak the faith of many on FR must be that they "cringe" at the idea that there is a competing faith out there. Not cringing, ducking to avoid the incoming rounds.
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:07:32 AM PST
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AppyPappy
(If you can't beat 'em, beat 'em anyway)
To: Dave S
Christ didn't tell people to massacre people. Mohammed did. The New Testament overrides the Old. It's a new covenant.
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:10:35 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If you can't beat 'em, beat 'em anyway)
To: Guillermo
If you think Jesus came to earth to preach hatred, death and world domination (like Mohammed did), you're sorely mistaken.In a sense, Jesus DID preach hatred, death and world domination, but from a purely spiriutal point of view.
My point is that many can look at the Scripture where Jesus says that we are to hate our parents and loved ones, take it out of context and paint Christ as an arbitor of hatred, which He obviously is not.
Mohammed was a wingnut for sure, but to condemn an entire populace on the basis of a selected verse is a litte unfair.
(And I am a pastor)
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:12:57 AM PST
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A2J
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To: chance33_98
The overuse of the word 'outraged' to describe a reaction should be punishable by confinement at hard labor.
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:13:43 AM PST
by
verity
To: HarryDunne
What's your basis for that? Just trying to make the point that muslims enjoy the same freedom of speech as Christians in the good old USA.
To: Concerned
The difference is that GOD---the Creator of the Universe--- instructs followers to do HIS will. Dead-human Muhammad is/was NOT God! Your argument isn't logical. How do you know that God didn't instruct Muhammad to do his will? He created Muhammad too. Are you more omniscient than God? Isnt claiming that, a sin?
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:15:03 AM PST
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Dave S
To: Hodar
And the only good Indian, is a dead Indian, right? < /sarcasm> Did you catch where he pretty much said all Germans in 1940 were Nazis?
Its not hard to imagine many on this thread holding a gun to a non-christian's heads and demanding they renounce their religion or die. FR seems to be full of the most un-christian christians I have ever seen.
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:16:39 AM PST
by
FreeTally
(How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
To: A2J
All you have to do is look...The context is in the verse...
The verse reads: ''O Prophet [Muhammad]! Inspire the believers to conquer all fear of death when fighting, [so that] if there be twenty of you who are patient in adversity, they might overcome two hundred; and if there be one hundred of you, they might overcome one-thousand of those bent on denying the truth, because they are people who cannot grasp it.''
They are including YOU in their religion...They are talking about you...They want you and your family, DEAD...
And for those that think this "unGodly" pastor is a little harsh and that Jesus loves all religions, you need to do a little more study...For one thing, you would find out that the Bible says that if you can't win them with love, cut 'em with the Sword and cut 'em deep, til you see the Blood...And that's what this pastor is doing... >
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:17:53 AM PST
by
Iscool
(it can be pretty painful, even if you're the winner)
To: carolina rebel
The Koran was just (allegedly) dictated to Mohammad by God, Therefore there is no seperation in time or thought.
just adding some clarification.
To: A2J
When did I condemn the entire populace?
The Koran is what it is. It says to subjugate the world through force and it says to kill those who leave Islam. This is undeniable. The Bible never makes such claims.
To compare it to the Bible is incredibly unsound, and it only an attempt to appear to be "multicultural" and "tolerant" (or an attempt to discredit Christianity).
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:18:36 AM PST
by
Guillermo
(Sic Em')
To: ActionNewsBill
ah, ok
To: HarryDunne
"O Apostle! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding." Surah 8:65
There you go. I don't recal anyone attacking Hodar, so what the hell is your point?
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:19:22 AM PST
by
Dead Dog
To: McNoggin
And how many people have been killed by this "Army"?
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:19:32 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If you can't beat 'em, beat 'em anyway)
To: Just mythoughts
You're so right. Also, I believe this attempt to get into a period of one-upsmanship between religions reflects badly on so-called Christians.
The Word is good and right because it is, not because it is better in comparison to some other faith.
To: McNoggin
Shouldn't we complain (and at the same time impugn a good percentage of the world's population) when abortion clinics and gay bars get bombed?Of course we should because those are tactics that Christ abhors.
The difference is how many applauded 9/11, both here at home and abroad. Most who applauded were genuine muslims, while those who cheer the bombing of abortion clinics and gay bars are fraudulent "Christians."
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:21:14 AM PST
by
A2J
To: chance33_98
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