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Al-Qaeda Supporters Threaten Nuclear Attacks
International Policy Institute for Counter-Terrorism ^ | 1/10/02 | Reuven Paz

Posted on 01/17/2003 1:15:28 PM PST by Angelus Errare

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To: Kevin Curry
Amen to this Kevin:

There is no asylum; there is no haven or safe place. They are hunted 24/7 by America's finest. One by one they will wink out like candles in a sudden night breeze.

After the winkout, there will only be a greasy spot in the desert sand or mountain rocks or an oily spot on the ocean's surface. No virgins, just a dirty and oily spot will be their legacy.

I'm sure that each one of these Islamofascists has night mares of what was left when their fellow goat humpers got their final hump in Yemen last year.

41 posted on 01/17/2003 11:39:44 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Freeploaders-- A $5/month donation is a cheap way to treat the left wing disease of FREEPLOADING!))
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To: Grampa Dave
Most likely we'll take 250k+ dead and sit on it. Without any response.

9/11 needed a nuclear attack on mecca. Anyone with any understanding in islam knew that.

We didn't, they'll hit harder, we'll do nothing.
42 posted on 01/17/2003 11:41:31 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Kevin Curry
KC, the following reads like a cryptic 'go' message : ... by the arms of the uprising youngsters, who while riding their horses, never step down but victorious or martyrs. A suicide murderer or two riding in a containerized carton, bringing in a dirty bomb, two or three containers to chosen cities, all they were waiting for was the go message.
43 posted on 01/17/2003 11:54:25 PM PST by MHGinTN (Manama na, meep meep maneemie, manama na, meep mee menie ...)
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To: RaceBannon
Bad Example. Fundamentalist Christians are the ones who are obeying what it says in spreading the Gospel, and teaching the Church to obey God's word.

I guess it depends on your definition of what a "fundamentalist Christian" is. It can be anything from someone who is devout and interprets the Bible literally to those who insist that creationism be taught in public schools to conscientious objectors to apocalypse cultists to those who bomb abortion clinics because "abortion is murder".

Or it can be those who are obeying what it says in spreading the Gospel, and teaching the Church to obey God's word. Name your poison.

My overall point is that "fundamentalism", often a euphemism for "extremism", does not, in and of itself, justify condemnation of an entire belief system -- whatever it may entail.

44 posted on 01/18/2003 2:01:19 AM PST by Imal (Myrrh is Furder)
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To: Monty22
Depressing situation. They got away with 9/11, they'll get away with a bio attack, they'll get away with a nuke attack.. And we'll just falter more and more.

Initially the situation was depressing and troubling. It actually goes back to the original Gulf War when Bush senior did not keep to the WMD doctrine. That doctrine, as he himself stated, was 'if anyone uses WMD on us, we will respond in kind'. After Saddam attacked our troops advancing toward Baghdad with chemical and biological weapons, (reference the aftermath known as Gulf War Syndrome), the WMD doctrine called for the nuking of Baghdad. This really should have been automatic. The problem was that Bush senior and his coalition had all kinds of strings and political conditions in place. The main goal was to keep the coalition together at any price. In hindsight, it was a stupid goal because there was no way that coalition was ever going to stay together for any extended length of time. We also should not have put chains on Israel. They should have been allowed to respond (according to the WMD doctrine) to the firing of ballistic missiles at them. What we are now left with is a world were possessing nuclear weapons does not give a nation any security. The non-nuclear nations feel free to attack us openly (Iraqi scuds at Israel) and covertly (9/11 and anthrax attacks on the US). To put it bluntly, the fear factor has been removed and that now makes the world a very dangerous place.

Our current President however, after personally surveying the results of our predicament in the World Trade Center carnage, is fixing to put the fear factor back in play. I dont think he will completely restore the WMD doctrine, which still calls for the nuking of Baghdad, but he will restore it with the most powerful conventional attack the world has ever seen.

45 posted on 01/18/2003 2:07:25 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Oops. That last sentence should read 'he will partially restore it with...'.
46 posted on 01/18/2003 2:11:31 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape; Monty; Imal; RaceBannon; Kevin Curry; IronJack; Nick Danger; JimRed; Grampa Dave; ..
...the nuking of Baghdad. This really should have been automatic. This is a very complex issue my friend. Our thermonuclear weapons turning Mecca or Baghadad into glass fields (and that's pretty much what our powerful weapons could do) would kill not just an enemy there (and not effectively that many 'warriors' but more of the non-combatants), the 'collateral damage' would be the end of this world as we know it. And if you pause to consider the worldwide consequences, that is a fair assumption, worldwide war between Islam and everyone else, with slaughter on an immense scale in towns and cities everywhere Islamic fanatics could reach.

For the U.S. to use such weaponry would require an enormous death and destruction here first. And that is understood by these fanatic Islamicists, so they are into a methodology that slowly escalates. Yes, many civilians were slaughtered by suicide murderers on 9/11/01. The calculation was that we would absorb such a number and enter into a worldwide war on Islam. That was a faulty assumption by them, in retrospect, because we are waging a determined and calculated war against terrorist organizations and states that sponsor such. The fanatics didn't accomplish their initial objective, but they haven't abandoned their goal and will continue to escalate the terror here, as they are able; hence our 'homeland security' efforts. Therein lies the snag, for us! We have a political party that actually wants to obstruct the effort to wage a successful war against the terrorists so that their party power will not be sucked away! The Daschle, Clinton, and Leahy style obstruction and dissonance aimed at fomenting division and protest is far more dangerous than during the Vietnam era for we are literally in a war for our survival!

The effect of democrat party obstruction and division, and the rumblings they foment as a tool to cancel this administration's success create an environment in this nation that blocks the reality of a thermonuclear response. That is the reality of democrat anti-administration efforts which endangers US most. Our military is awesome, but it has limitations. We are at war and we have a huge anti-administration effort from the opposition party that sees only their empowerment as their goal, missing the horrific internal consequences of our national demise (or ignoring it as a necessary adjunct for their political survival). Our enemies are well aware of this reality and will escalate ever so slowly, to bleed our resources and our national resolve. THAT is the greatest danger at this stage in our war on terrorism worldwide.

How does launching nukes counter economic assault? It doesn't work my friend. The blunting then dissolution of American influence worldwide is the goal of our enemies. There are ways to devastate this nation in one or two actions. [Drop me a freepmail and I'll explain, but not on an open forum.] Such actions would have a thermonuclear response, so our enemies are avoiding that, instead slowly ratcheting the terror upward in stages, stages aided by the obstruction and divisive policies of the democrat's hate-filled party of factious constituencies. Perhaps that's what the Saudis and Jordanians realize and with our slow demise they see the eventual evaporation of their power in their own country. Fanatical Islamism is a real threat to the les fanatical ruel of the Hashemite and Saudi rules (despite what you may believe about Wahhabism). Perhaps that's why they are now working to stop these maniacs also. The realities are starting to sink in.

47 posted on 01/18/2003 8:38:12 AM PST by MHGinTN (Manama na, meep meep maneemie, manama na, meep mee menie ...)
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les = less

ruel = rule

Sorry, this screed just popped out withour thorough review.

48 posted on 01/18/2003 8:39:36 AM PST by MHGinTN (Manama na, meep meep maneemie, manama na, meep mee menie ...)
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withour = without ... need more coffee so fingers walk better.
49 posted on 01/18/2003 8:40:46 AM PST by MHGinTN (Manama na, meep meep maneemie, manama na, meep mee menie ...)
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To: Angelus Errare
These are some real sick puppies. They have declared war on an entire people and we've sought revenge against only the perpetrators. That would change of course the minute they introduce nuclear or biological into the equation. At that point, we could no longer afford to sort the good guys from the bad. We would have to eliminate the entire region, and we would most certainly do so.
50 posted on 01/18/2003 8:51:08 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
My freind, they have already introduced biologicals into the equation, by trying to kill Americans with Anthrax. It is the sort of oozing assault described above.
51 posted on 01/18/2003 9:13:46 AM PST by MHGinTN (Manama na, meep meep maneemie, manama na, meep mee menie ...)
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To: JimRed
"No big trick to that, what with the thousands of uninspected maritime cargo containers delivered to our seaports each month."

It depends. There is always the one in a million chance that customs will stop and inspect the freighter carrying the nuke, just as they did that other freighter off the coast of NYC several months back. For all we know, this strategy may already have been tried and the feds intercepted and disarmed a nuclear warhead intended to destroy New York City.

Since al-Qaeda is at this point dependant upon their state sponsors to manufacture such weapons for them. The general public has, in all honesty, nothing more than a crude idea of the group's capabilities at this point depending on what countries we know sponsors them (Iran, Iraq, Sudan, ect.) is willing to loan them.
52 posted on 01/18/2003 10:32:41 AM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: MarMema
Ping
53 posted on 01/18/2003 10:50:57 AM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: Angelus Errare; MHGinTN; JimRed; Bikers4Bush; Highest Authority; Dog; swarthyguy; Fudd; Sender; ...
The website that the al-qaeda nuclear threat appeared on - al-mojahedoon.net -- has just been "nuked".
54 posted on 01/18/2003 6:03:10 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt (---- Fight Islamist CyberTerror at: http://haganah.org.il/haganah/index.php ----)
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To: *JIHAD IN AMERICA; eastsider; akash; Angelus Errare; ex-Texan; Bobibutu; Bad~Rodeo; Abar; Huggy; ...

Jehadi website ping: (let me know if you want on or off)

The website al-mojahedoon.net is threatening America with nuclear terror (However, it appears that the website has just been "nuked" out of cyberspace ).

55 posted on 01/18/2003 6:10:18 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt (---- Fight Islamist CyberTerror at: http://haganah.org.il/haganah/index.php ----)
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To: Monty22
Depressing situation. They got away with 9/11, they'll get away with a bio attack, they'll get away with a nuke attack.. And we'll just falter more and more.

Got away with? That's an interesting perspective. We take 3,000 casualties, they lose a country, soon to be two countries, get their financial umbilical cords cut, face a global manhunt, and have no real prospect of getting back on their feet. At prices like these, no one can afford terrorism in the long run. Do the math.

Sure, we could have nuked Afghanistan. That would have created far more problems than it solved, and wasnt' necessary in the first place. An eye for an eye and a nuke for a nuke, sure, but nuking everyone who pulls off a suicide hijacking or bus bombing is foolish overkill.

56 posted on 01/18/2003 6:20:23 PM PST by Steel Wolf
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To: Steel Wolf
I believe in hitting back at least 100 times harder. We should've used B61's or SLBM's on the islamic world that night.
57 posted on 01/18/2003 6:24:56 PM PST by Monty22
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To: RaceBannon
Just as fundamentalist Christians shouldn't be cause for destroying Christianity, fundamentalist Muslims shouldn't be cause for destroying Islam. I haven't always felt this way, but I finally figured it out.
Bad Example. Fundamentalist Christians are the ones who are obeying what it says in spreading the Gospel, and teaching the Church to obey God's word.

Muslim clerics are teaching their people to hate...

Hate, and then some:

"I will make my body a bomb," said the boy, "that will blast the flesh of Zionists, the sons of pigs and monkeys.... I will tear their bodies into little pieces and will cause them more pain than they will ever know."  His classmates shouted in response, "Allah Akhbar," [God is great] and his teacher shouted, "May the virgins give you pleasure."    Islam Unveiled, Robert Spencer cites Jack Kelley's article in USA Today describing the latter's visit to a school run by Hamas... an eleven year old boy reported this to his class.
The term "fundamentalist" isn't a loop hole for the Religion of Peace... it's absolutely forbidden to be non-fundamentalist in Islam.    That's why fatwahs are issued... that's why muhammadens utilize pseudonyms whenever they risk criticizing Islam.    When was the last time a Christian fundementalist hid their name from their brothers in faith?

58 posted on 01/18/2003 7:10:52 PM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Thanks for the ping <G>:

Yo, nuke guys...

Like I said last year, you must first have:

Got that?? Let's see...you want to use bio warfare, but have thus far failed miserably...now you want to kill all of us?? Who's gonna be left to administer Sha'Ria law...a COCK ROACH???? DUHHHHH!!!!

LOL!!

Dorks.

59 posted on 01/18/2003 8:31:52 PM PST by cake_crumb (What would we do without FR? Don't wait to find out. Become a monthly donor.)
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To: MHGinTN
"My freind, they have already introduced biologicals into the equation, by trying to kill Americans with Anthrax. It is the sort of oozing assault described above"

Horrible for the families of the people who died...but in a population of 300,000,000, what dent did the few poor people who died make? Remember...the Enemy was trying to cripple the nation. Do we see visions of The Stand?

Has the mail been interrupted (don't I wish...my future son in-law got jury duty questionairres from TWO different counties - one of which he obviously doesn't live in this weekend...now we have to starighten out a few low-rent bureaucrats in TWO counties about WHICH county he lives in...one thought he lived at our daughter's address...HERE)?

Nope...if this is the best they've got...OH...along with that mysterious stomach bug people have been getting at sea for the past half century...they've failed miserably.

60 posted on 01/18/2003 8:41:06 PM PST by cake_crumb (What would we do without FR? Don't wait to find out. Become a monthly donor.)
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