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When Did Martin Luther King Become The Most Important Person In American History?
toogoodreports.com ^ | January 20, 2003 | Lowell Phillips

Posted on 01/20/2003 6:40:40 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Asking is akin to blasphemy? Actually it's worse than that. Posing the question might draw more serious condemnation than standing on the steps of the Vatican and screaming, "There is no G-d!!" Come to mention it, it is far more likely and acceptable for someone to critically examine the Pope, Jesus and the Almighty himself than Martin Luther King. Considering he was a Christian leader, as well as a civil rights leader, he certainly would think this odd.

Wondering aloud about such things makes me a bona fide racist in some eyes. Not at all surprising in a paradoxical, political environment where disagreeing with judging people based on skin color, euphemistically called "affirmative action", somehow makes one a racist. On the contrary, my respect for Mr. King is far purer than that alleged by people who have appropriated and distorted his legacy of race neutrality to justify exactly the opposite. The hysterical or, more likely, calculated reactions aside, these musings in no way should be construed as questioning the correctness of honoring the man. I believe him to be one of the most praiseworthy figures of the 20th century and indeed he should be recognized amongst the greatest Americans in our nation's history. But the question that I have is, at what point, and by what justification did he become THE most important figure in our history?

The fact that this is the position that King now occupies is not really arguable. Surely historians would have something to say about it, but if public remembrances and general reverence are at all indicators, and they're the only meaningful indicators, the debate has been settled. To see this, all we need do is open our eyes and uncover our ears. The observances of his birthday are all encompassing. Businesses, churches, the media and state, federal and local government institutions pause in unison and reflect. Public officials, led by the president, make obligatory statements and attend celebrations in his honor. And perhaps most important to the nation's attitudes, now and in years to come, the education system, private and public, makes a concerted effort to see to it that our youth understands who King was and what he has meant to this country. The same can be said about no one else in our history.

His birthday being a national holiday officially verifies Martin Luther King's historical preeminence. He is the one and only "American" deemed to be deserving of an official day of remembrance. Christopher Columbus still has a federal holiday bearing his name, but with the exception of it being a paid day off, it's largely ignored. As political correctness creeps ever forward and his image increasingly becomes that merely of the commander in the first way of European invaders to the "New World", the future of Columbus Day looks bleak. He was not an American in any event. Though his importance in shaping the modern world was immeasurable, his role in birth of The United States and in forming the democratic principles that guide us is nonexistent.

That's it.

Oh, we do have President's Day, but it is likewise remembered as a day off to the few people that get it, rather than anything used as an educational opportunity or deserving of ceremony. Actually the third Monday in February officially remains Washington's Birthday according to section 6103(a), title 5 of the United States Code. But since a proclamation by President Richard Nixon in 1971 it has, in effect, been a day to commemorate all past presidents. So we now have a day set aside to honor Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter along with Washington and Lincoln.

Martin Luther King as an image of courage and nobility in the face of hate should never be undervalued. He was steadfast in his nonviolence and eloquence, even as more radical factions in the civil rights movement began to dismiss him. King's assassination canonized him just as Mao-inspired fanatics, and other violent militants, threatened to take control. But he was not the only believer in nonviolence, and despite his charisma, the ultimate victory in the struggle for civil rights is conceivable without him.

It is far less likely that the Civil War would have come about or ended as it did without Abraham Lincoln. It was mainly due to his strength of will and moral convictions that the war evolved from a secession and state's rights conflict to one of a crusade against slavery. Strangely enough, it is many who benefited the most from Lincoln's leadership that have attempted to discard his attitudes and actions. But what can't be denied is that in a time of unimaginable bloodshed and with the Union faltering he rebuilt the moral underpinnings of the war effort. Though the Emancipation Proclamation freed not a single slave, making it changed the course of the nation. And it made Martin Luther King, as we know him, possible. King paid homage to this in the first lines of his "I have a dream speech",

"Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of captivity."

Just as Lincoln made King possible, so too did George Washington make Lincoln possible. It is all but unimaginable that the War of Independence could have been won, the constitution could have been ratified, or that the presidency would have evolved as it has without him. And here again King's victories centuries later would not have come to pass. Washington's image has suffered greatly by a recent focus solely on the fact that he was a slaveholder. No one should be above scrutiny, but Washington was no lover of slavery and expressed his wish to have "a plan adopted for the abolition" of the institution.

No less a liberal outlet than PBS recognizes this:

"He possessed and displayed in his life courage, self-control, justice, judgment and an array of other virtues in such full harmony and to such a degree, and he surmounted such great challenges in so many circumstances of war and peace, that to see how he lived his life is to see much more vividly what it means to be a man. This is by no means to say that he was flawless any more than Babe Ruth was a perfect baseball player. It is merely to say that, if he had not lived, such greatness could hardly have been believed possible." And had Washington not lived the greatness of King could hardly have been believed possible.

I don't doubt for a moment that Martin Luther King is deserving of a place of honor in our history. But he is by no means the only or most deserving. There are others that could easily be named from Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Franklin and beyond whose shoulders King stood upon to accomplish what he did. And dismissing these men does a disservice to them, to this nation, to our children, and to King as well.


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1 posted on 01/20/2003 6:40:41 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Excellent Article! Bravo!
2 posted on 01/20/2003 6:46:05 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Too tired right now to read it all.
It is true though.
The reason is, MLK and his words makes my spine tingle!
Just words,just words!
Forty years later it is still so!


Merely words!
3 posted on 01/20/2003 6:48:57 PM PST by Radix
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I kinda love un-PC musings....this was great
4 posted on 01/20/2003 6:51:18 PM PST by ErnBatavia ((Bumperootus!))
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is a dangerous subject to discuss, and that fact says a lot about contemporary American society.
5 posted on 01/20/2003 7:03:45 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I was there. I lived it. IMHO, he was a Jesse Jackson with manners. He was arrogant, he swaggered, he *politely* bullied his way around the country, copying Ghandi. In the back rooms, he was a womanizer and he associated with people of questionable character. Give me a Jessie Lee Peterson over MLK any day!

What we have here is an excellent example of revisionist history. Nobody wants to say the emperor had no clothes.
6 posted on 01/20/2003 7:03:56 PM PST by Humidston (Call a Commie FREE - FSTV - 1-888-550-FSTV - tell 'em what you think about their protest)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
MLK's cult of personality in America is starting to rival that of Saddam Hussein in Iraq. And there are those civil rights leaders who think Dr. King is not honored enough!
7 posted on 01/20/2003 7:06:55 PM PST by ctnoell70
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To: ctnoell70
What a dumb item. No one has EVER said that MLK was the "most important person" in US history. All some folks are saying, and the holiday indicates, is that he was a major figure in US history. The manner of his death also made him a martyr. I can't think of anything I have read or anyone I have heard (liberal, moderate) who has ever claimed he is the most important person in US history. This kind of tripe gives conservatives a real bad image.
8 posted on 01/20/2003 7:12:13 PM PST by jraven
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To: Tailgunner Joe
A local mom was talking to her 3rd grade daughter last year..the girl was a walking encyclopedia on Black history and had NO CLUE who George Washington or Abe Lincoln were on Presidents day..
9 posted on 01/20/2003 7:23:24 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Humidston
The emperor is naked already. MLK was a collectivist-leftie and this day of honour is the most dreadfully awful display of bogus pandering to race-baiters conceivable. Bush rushing out to a black church, the rats whining that they're more genuinely black. Please...! I don't ever want to hear the word diversity again, not even with a small "d".
How about a Bill of Rights day? Taxpayer freedom day?
10 posted on 01/20/2003 7:25:38 PM PST by kcar
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To: jraven
NOT a dumb idea! If Ronald Reagan was rammed downed my throat as Dr. King is year after year, I would complain about that also. Furthermore, MLK has a few skeletons in his closet that are worth imvestigating (his ties to the Communist Party, for one). Such arrogance shown for limiting debate on this issue doesn't exactly help conservatism either.
11 posted on 01/20/2003 7:29:29 PM PST by ctnoell70
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To: Malesherbes
Big Bump!

My child is in second grade, and is being told that MLK is the greatest man who ever lived in this country.She has no idea who Abe Lincoln was.She was taught that George Washington was greedy, and that all whites are greedy

Go figure

We had a wonderfull talk about how white and black and red people used to treat each other back in the old days, and how Lincoln and MLK just wanted us to treat each other based on how we acted, not by the color of our skins.

The ongoing pittfalls of trying to raise my child color-blind, as MLK rightly advocated,and avoiding the "white guilt" the current batch of race-baiting media whores and liberal history revisionists tout as truth, while teaching her to respect her Sioux ancestry is starting to make my head spin.

12 posted on 01/20/2003 7:33:13 PM PST by sarasmom (<p>Everyone get off my land, and take your lawyers,politicians and slaves with you.!)
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To: RnMomof7
Most homeschoolers give very little attention to mlk, or malcome x, I think perhaps this is why homeschoolers are walking away with many of the national spelling bee and geography bees. I really is a crying shame that public school kids know more trivial things, than things of real importance.
13 posted on 01/20/2003 7:38:31 PM PST by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I was in elementary school in the 70s, about a 40% black school, and I'd say we easily spent 3 or 4 more times studying Harriet Tubman than MLK.

And more time on Tubman than Washington, Lincoln, and Jefferson combined.

MLK has committed the crime of being a man...Tubman is even more PC because she was a black WOMAN.
14 posted on 01/20/2003 7:41:34 PM PST by John H K
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To: jraven
As much as I agree that SOME stuff on FR gives conservatives a bad image, people aren't really exaggerating on this thread.

It depends on how old you are and where you went to school...

But there are many locales where more will be taught about MLK (and Harriet Tubman, etc.) than Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, JFK, and Reagan COMBINED in elementary school (particularly) but also in Junior and Senior High. The most extreme school districts will add a heavy dose of Malcolm X too but I personally did not experience this in the 70s.

That's an obvious indication that educators BELIEVE MLK was the most important person in US history, even if they don't say so in so many words.
15 posted on 01/20/2003 7:45:38 PM PST by John H K
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To: Tailgunner Joe
All I know is, I didn't get my damn mail today. Not sure if that's good or bad.

That said, I agree with the author. MLK was certainly an enigma and true folk hero of the 20th century, and not just to blacks.

And that said, I can with little effort point out many other great Americans who are equally or more deserving of a national holiday. Teddy Roosevelt springs to mind, as does George Washington Carver. Carver arguably did more for American blacks than MLK. Thoughts?

16 posted on 01/20/2003 7:48:13 PM PST by yooper
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To: Tailgunner Joe
About the same time that Doctor Suess's birthday became more important than Jesus Christ's
17 posted on 01/20/2003 7:50:17 PM PST by mlmr
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To: Tailgunner Joe
In my mind, the biggest mark against MLK has been the behavior of many of his associates and of his family since his murder. Their naked greed has been sad and reminds me of the aphorism that one is judged by the company one keeps.

The biggest mark for him was that he did stick to non-violence, helping produced a relatively non-violent end to segregation. Something that today's protester's have no clue about -- for some reason they think that a broken window, lots of profanity, and even some nudity will persuade others of the rightness of their cause. The "I Have A Dream" March would look very different if it occurred today.

18 posted on 01/20/2003 7:52:52 PM PST by LenS
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I told my homeschooled daughter that MLK was an important symbol of the civil rights movement of the '60s, whose intention it was to promote the uniquely American ideal of equality. We certainly don't obsess over him.
19 posted on 01/20/2003 7:58:03 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ; -)
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To: LenS
Jessie Jackson has managed to nullify everything that Martin Luther King stood for.

Can we call it even?

20 posted on 01/20/2003 7:58:34 PM PST by Hunble
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To: sarasmom
My daughter came home from elementary school several Januaries ago to inform me that MLK freed the slaves. I had to inform her that it was the nation's first Republican president who did that.

There's no way to raise a child color blind in today's public school system. She played with children of African and Asian heritage and never noticed a difference in peoples' skin colors before the school system taught her about it.

I thought it was interesting that when she studied native NW cultures they omitted the fact that coastal Indians were notorious slavers, and used to kill slaves wantonly for sport in demonstrations of wealth at potlatches. Makes the white European history of slavery look 'enlightened' in comparison.

By the way, history indicates that more black Africans were sold into slavery to Arabia than to the Americas. Where's the big black population today in Arabia? You'd think the Religion of Peace would have ensured their preservation.
21 posted on 01/20/2003 7:59:13 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: jraven
You apparently didn't read past the title.
22 posted on 01/20/2003 8:03:22 PM PST by savedbygrace (Jesus is Lord)
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To: yooper
True. A few others come to mind: Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Jackie Robinson, Jesse Owens, Frederick Douglas, Booker T. Washington. All of these men rose to fame and prominence in the face of racism and inequality. All of these gentlemen had America's best interest at heart. That remains to be seen of Dr. King after the FBI releases its secret file on MLK in 2050.
23 posted on 01/20/2003 8:04:22 PM PST by ctnoell70
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I really is a crying shame that public school kids know more trivial things, than things of real importance.

Not really. My child is being privately educated; I assume yours is? They are going to need servants someday. Servants need only a public education and to content themselves with trivia.

24 posted on 01/20/2003 8:05:26 PM PST by templar
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To: sarasmom
My child is in second grade, and is being told that MLK is the greatest man who ever lived in this country.She has no idea who Abe Lincoln was.She was taught that George Washington was greedy, and that all whites are greedy

Really? What are you going to do about this?

25 posted on 01/20/2003 8:10:09 PM PST by Captainpaintball ( If Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage had a kid...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
George Washington deserves his own day, and it should be celebrated on his birthday, whether or not his birthday falls on a Monday.

What are we supposed to be celebrating, Washington or three-day weekends?

26 posted on 01/20/2003 8:21:50 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: ctnoell70
That remains to be seen of Dr. King after the FBI releases its secret file on MLK in 2050.

It won't matter.

By 2050, immigration will have created a new America, with a different view of what matters in history.

27 posted on 01/20/2003 8:24:54 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Granting that contempories are guilty of the hyperbole, we honor in King precisely that in him which upholds Jefferson, Washington and Lincoln.

I see nothing wrong with this.
28 posted on 01/20/2003 8:41:24 PM PST by nicollo
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To: John H K
What strikes me as the most strange is that a considerable portion of the whites who line up to pander and kiss ass do not even seem very believable in their adulation. I don't think they are sincere. What's more, I don't think the blacks think they are sincere either. For that matter, I don't think half the blacks give a hoot either. I think that there is a certain percentage of insecure whites who think they have to prove that they aren't prejudice and a certain percentage of blacks that thrive on seeing the insecure whites grovel and pander. To me it's a very strange phenomenon. It makes whites look like closet racists who are continually trying to prove that they are not. It makes the blacks look like they are so self conscious of their blackness that they need to see the world bow down to their leader once a year. Civil rights? Sorry. I don't think civil rights are a big concern these days. Not only does everyone have them, if anything, today's blacks enjoy special consideration. Can you say affirmative action? The whole thing is a joke.

"Did you say something about my momma?"

"No, I didn't say something about your momma"

"So you're calling me a liar?"

"No, I'm not calling you a liar, honest!"

"I think you were talking about my momma"

"No, really! I don't even know your momma."

Etc.

29 posted on 01/20/2003 8:44:03 PM PST by HaveGunWillTravel
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To: Age of Reason
By 2050, immigration will have created a new America, with a different view of what matters in history.

If trends continue, in 2050 our grandkids might be thumping their heads against the floor at the local Madrass, trying to learn the Koran (in Spanish). MLK would be just another forgotten infidel.

30 posted on 01/20/2003 8:44:59 PM PST by dagnabbit
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To: jraven
The manner of his death also made him a martyr

So did Lincoln's. At least to some of us. Evidently not to the P.C. crowd, who mention Lincoln only in an attempt to make jim into some kind of Queer icon, through distortions and lies. Life in "Blue America" is really revolting. I don;t know how long my wife and I can hold out, before moving to the "Red Zone".

31 posted on 01/20/2003 8:46:57 PM PST by montag813
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To: nicollo
They don't have their own holidays though.
32 posted on 01/20/2003 8:47:56 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe (God Armeth The Patriot)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
What's the complaint?

Have you seen a statue of William McKinley lately? Look carefuly, they're everywhere. That martyred President meant the heavens and the earth to a generation. If they had national holiday in his day, there'd be a McKinley day. History has forgotten him. His contemporaries did not.
33 posted on 01/20/2003 8:52:36 PM PST by nicollo
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To: ctnoell70
Not to forget Rodney Paige, who is the first black Sec. of Education! At least I think he is, isn't he? Condi Rice of course, the first black National Security Advisor, a female one also!
34 posted on 01/20/2003 8:54:51 PM PST by dsutah
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To: John H K
My children(private school, 1-2% black)
spent more time, it seemed, on Harriet Tubman than any other American historical figure. The PC cirriculum is as much to blame as anything else. I never heard of Harriet Tubman until my children bacame so well versed about her.
36 posted on 01/20/2003 9:17:47 PM PST by VMI70
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To: Captainpaintball
"Really? What are you going to do about this?"

What I do every day.Tell her the truth, and make her feel comfortable in her own intelligence to the point that she does not have to be overtly combative with her teacher, but teach her the skills to know that when someone is feeding her less than the whole truth, she is not wrong if she questions what she is taught at school.

I teach her a healthy skepticism, and encourage her to use her own mind, and trust her own instincts.I teach her to talk to me, and other adults she knows to be honest.

It is hard to raise a child,but it is my job as her mother, to build the skills she will need to function in the real world, and to prolong her childhood as long as possible.

What do you do with your child?

39 posted on 01/20/2003 9:30:56 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: yooper
What exactly did George Washington Carver do for blacks, or for America. I admit ignorance, all I know is that he invented peanut butter.
40 posted on 01/20/2003 9:37:26 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: ctnoell70
I have no real issue with the man being honored. He represents something that was valid and important to a great many people. I lived it too. I still remember the day that Martin Luther King came to our tiny little town, well, not really to our town per se, but to speak at the all black college that was there. I remember the energy, if that's the right word. I remember the loudspeaders that could be heard on our street from the stadium. I remember my family saying that wherever that man (well, that wasn't the word they used) there was nothing but trouble. I remember the day the Civil Rights Bill was signed. I was sitting out on my grandma's front porch. Across the street where we had once lived was a large black family. They were drinking and whooping it up. It was a very emotional day on our street for both blacks and whites, although for very different reasons.

At first it seemed strange to see black folks in places they had never been before. The "whites only" signs came off the fronts of businesses. Many small business owners sought ways around it. We even moved to a town where there was some loophole in the law that made it possible to keep blacks from living there. It was explained to me once, but I was quite young so I don't remeber exactly what it was.

All in all I knew it was a good thing that had happened. I had often had arguments with family members and friends about fairness and how it was just wrong that they should be treated as if they weren't as good as we were. As I said before, the street I had lived on as a child was both black and white, one end of the street was "colored" the other end white. I remember thinking it odd even as a small child if I was walking on the sidewalk and a "colored" man would walk by, usually on the way to the college, that he would step out into the street instead of walking on the sidewalk. When I asked my great-grandma why, the only answer I got was that I was a white girl and he was a colored man.

My great-grandma lived in the last house on the "white" part of the street and there was a fence and a field between her home and the first "colored' home. These were very nice people and they had a little girl just a little older than me. I was not a very socialble child but I really liked this little girl. I thought that she was so sweet and pretty. We would play for hours in our respective yards, but always with the fence between us. The only time we were allowed to go beyond the boundary of the fence and stand side by side was when the ice cream man came. Even as a very young child I had a keen sense of justice and I knew that there was something fundamentally flawed about that.

That said, I also recall something more and more as I get older that I heard repeatedly. Folks would say that no matter what they get now, it would never be enough. At the time it just sounded like sour grapes, but now I am beginning to understand it. At the time it was about having the same freedoms that we did; getting to choose what restaurants they wanted to go to or where they wanted to shop or where they wanted to sit on the bus. It was about having the same access to education and job opportunities and having the right to vote. It was about being able to play on the other side of the fence and walk on the sidewalk. It was about all men being created equal and all of us being made in the image of God. All those were good things. But the elders seemed to have a way of seeing into the future and sensing that there would be trouble ahead as a result. My daddy once said "they will never be happy with being equal, they will want to be "better".

It really isn't important that Martin Luther King was a sinner the same as the rest of us. What he facilitated was good thing. I believe that his dream was just what he said it was and he devoted his life and sacrificed his life for what he believed. But I have often wondered what he would think if he could see how his mission has been twisted. Being from a time when humility was still considered a virtue I wonder if he might not be ashamed of providing a backdrop for the shameless racebaiting that goes on under the auspices of "civil rights". I wonder what Dr. King would think about those of his people who have forgotten to be grateful to God for lifting them up out of the oppression of inequality and have instead cast the yoke of oppression on others. Would he approve of the displacement of all else in our history in the interest of evening the score? Would he think it was a great idea to remove George Washington's picture from our schools and replace it with one of Malcolm X? Would he teach his people that they have a right not to be offended but that it is okay to offend us in any way they want? I don't think so.

Should MLK have a place of honor in history? Absolutely! Should he have a street named after him in every big city in the country? I guess that's up to the people of those cities. Should every great white man in history be eclipsed by his shadow? Absolutely not! It is not about race so much as it is about respect. I will treat people with respect as long as I am treated with respect. If you think it is fine to offend me every time you open your mouth, then expect me to not really care if what I say or do offends you. If you are going to denigrate those whom I consider to be worthy of honor, do not expect me to honor your heroes. If you are going to treat me as if what I think and how I feel doesn't matter, then don't expect me to put much value on what you think or how you feel. Some of you have become that which Dr. King despised. Some of you, like me, can remember. Would you be masters or would you be brothers? You can't have it both ways.

41 posted on 01/20/2003 9:44:04 PM PST by sweetliberty (RATS out!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This apparently is reflective of the implicit agenda of the American Historical Association, via U.S. history textbooks for schools written by authors who are AHA members...
42 posted on 01/20/2003 9:55:20 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Jeff Chandler
" We certainly don't obsess over him."

Probably yet another reason that the power structure is looking for ways to put a stop to homeschooling. at least in some places.

43 posted on 01/20/2003 9:56:02 PM PST by sweetliberty (RATS out!)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
"By the way, history indicates that more black Africans were sold into slavery to Arabia than to the Americas. Where's the big black population today in Arabia? You'd think the Religion of Peace would have ensured their preservation."

Check out the African threads by Clive, and know that truth is not lost.

It is possible to raise a child colorblind, it is just harder to do so, than to pass on adult predjudices.I can bite my tongue before I say something stupid,the black mother of my childs schoolfriend can bite her tongue, and we adults can end the cycle.

Not the PC way, just the right way.We adults are the only ones who can stop passing the sins of our forefathers onto our children.

I think the world, or at least the USA would be a whole lot stronger if we adults bit our tongues more often around our own children, and stopped waiting for the "other parent" to shut up first.

Once the blacks and whites "get over it", perhaps there is a chance for the reds, browns and yellows to do so.I will smack Pat Buchanen for kicks, let a black mother smack Jesse Jackson.We will all feel better for it.LOL

44 posted on 01/20/2003 10:00:03 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
You know, I guess I never really thought about it this way before, but I have two direct ancestors, both who were captured and held in captivity one of them for 5 years, by the Shawnee. I guess technically that would have made them slaves. Kind of ironic really. Even though I am from the south, I have yet to find evidence of a single slaveowner, just lots of simple farmers and itinerant preachers....and a couple of slaves. Some folks just can't be on the winning side no matter what they do. :-)
45 posted on 01/20/2003 10:02:55 PM PST by sweetliberty (RATS out!)
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To: dagnabbit
"MLK would be just another forgotten infidel. "

Nah, they'd just posthumously convert him to Islam...or rewrite history yet again.

46 posted on 01/20/2003 10:07:39 PM PST by sweetliberty (RATS out!)
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To: kcar
"How about a Bill of Rights day? Taxpayer freedom day?"

Excellent points!

December 15 is the Bill of Rights Day, and a group of us are working to make it a Day of National Recognition (holiday) similar to July 4th.

Another group of us are working to replace the income tax with a National Retail Sales Tax and abolish the IRS. April 15 would become a national holiday to commemorate (Lest We Forget!) FReeing the American people from the slavery of the income tax.

“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” [Thomas Jefferson, letter to Benjamin Rush, 1800.]

We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.

Click here to help us scrap the Code, scrap the IRS and abolish the VLWC!

We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.

You can also click here to sign a petition in support of Fundamental Tax Replacement.

We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.<p

47 posted on 01/20/2003 10:16:34 PM PST by Taxman
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To: Michael2001
Carver came into a situation where black farmers had recently gotten land which was worn out from cotton raising. Notwithstanding, they continued to try raising cotton on it, and of course, they were going broke in the process. So he encouraged them to try peanuts instead.

The advantage to peanuts is that they put nitrogen back into the ground, and build it up for other crops. But it's not enough to tell people they ought to be growing such and such a commodity. You need to prove that it can be sold for a profit. And that was the reason for all his experiments with peanuts.

The man was a genius, but because even whitey can see that he was, there is no PC credit to be earned by acknowledging him as such. You only make PC brownie points by puffing womanizing false prophets as if they were honorable men.

48 posted on 01/20/2003 10:40:21 PM PST by thulldud
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To: sweetliberty
Good essay.

You know, it's a funny thing, but when I was a liberal Democrat, I was embarassingly prejudiced against blacks. Not in the N word calling, keep them down kind of way, but in the condescending, accept anything because they've been oppressed kind of way.

I no longer waste my time agonizing over such things. I treat everyone of any race as an equal, which means if a man is a jerk, his race isn't going to affect my opinion of him one way or another.

A man once wrote that there are only two races: the decent, and the indecent. I agree with his wisdom. Color has nothing to do with it.
49 posted on 01/20/2003 10:48:33 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ; -)
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To: sarasmom
It's commendable that you are trying to raise your child in a color-blind way. However, the problem is that virtually every black child in America is being raised to believe that skin color and race not only matter, but are the most important component of one's identity. I can't understand why more people can't see how this will lead to disaster someday. What message are we sending every child, of every race, during Black History Month? Because of all the (probably purposeful) policy mistakes of white leaders over the past few decades, there is no easy solution here.
50 posted on 01/20/2003 11:01:13 PM PST by bigunreal
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