Go to the Cleveland Diocese website and look at the Rainbow section. It's scary.
And remarkably ugly.
Posted on 01/21/2003 7:06:05 AM PST by Polycarp
Edited on 01/21/2003 7:09:14 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
You claim to be a Catholic, netmilsmom, therefore you should know better.
The Catholic Church condemns homosexual activity as deadly sin and says that those who engage in such activity are doing evil.
Individuals within the Church are defying that teaching and trying to undermine it - but the Church is not "pro-gay".
If he had known ahead of time that he was going to be defrauded of an education in authentic Catholic theology, he would have dedicated the time to his business instead.
If the seminary represented itself as Catholic, yet violated the Catholic Church's own stated criteria for Catholic education, then the seminary might be guilty of fraudulent conveyance.
Go to the Cleveland Diocese website and look at the Rainbow section. It's scary.
And remarkably ugly.
A huge segment of our Church leaders want to legitimize homosex - a clear sin. They need to be cleaned out, and our Church needs to be dequeerized.
That is, the bureaucratic structures which run the bishop's dioceses from a practical standpoint.
They are, by and large, overstaffed and overstaffed with 60s holdouts. The NCCB is essentially a megachancery.
These bureaucracies select the vendors of Catholic school textbooks. They implement diocese-wide programs. They run diocesan finances. They run seminaries. In many cases bishops are politically beholden to the chanceries - and any bishop who has been in office for more than a year or two is already so complicit in the malfeasance of the chancery that he can be smeared for financial mismanagement from the beginning. And most ordinary bishops have already served years as auxiliary bishops - they rarely begin authority with a clean slate.
Bishops today are generally good politicians and terrible managers - they would prefer that things run themselves and the chanceries are more than happy to run things.
The smartest thing any bishop could do would be to fire his entire staff the moment he takes office and start from scratch.
A huge segment of our Church leaders want to legitimize homosex - a clear sin. They need to be cleaned out ...A good place to start would be the "Leadership" of the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries.
You'll find that a large number, perhaps the majority, of chancery personnel are ex-nuns.
And by that, I mean decision-making personnel - I'm not counting secretaries, etc.
There are usually a few suspect priests in the mix, but less and less. Butch lesbian ex-nuns are the core demographic of American chancery administration.
I am sure it gave the USCCB fits.They were so intent on making sure that Catholics had little or no knowledge about the Faith and they did everything to prevent the Holy Father's encyclical's,which were to be held by all Catholics as Truth,were witheld as much as possible.They should be sued too.
If they had all their funds cut off and were forced to meet in an old monastery far from the glamour and excitement of the big city,we might see some amazing changes for good. And if their staffs were forced to live and work out of the same monastery,I predict the crisis would be over very shortly.
Worldly men,posing as shepherds,are very responsible for this mess we have in the Church in this country,if they were serious about their duties they would remove themselves from "temptation" and get back to tending their flocks.Down with the USCCB.
I will add your suggestion to my list of how we can improve the Church in America. Get rid of the bloated bureaucracies in the chancery offices what a waste of money they are. And that is to say nothing of the dangers they pose to the Catholic Church,a bunch of disgruntled lesbians for the most part.
Another benefit of that would be an almost automatic reduction of the office staffs that the individual parishes are carrying since the only purpose they serve oftentimes is to respond to the requests of the overstaffed chancery offices for information that allows thhem to perpetuate theie little ministries and departments. Oh, and I forgot they are also the captive audiences for the chancery staffs' little brainwashing classes.
Perhaps it will also give catholic universities and colleges a little food for thought. If parents and alumni would start suing them for luring Catholic students under the pretext of providing a Catholic education they might do something about keeping the ilk of McBrien et al,out of teaching positions.
Down with the USCCB.The consummate expression of the USCCB's "pro-gay" bias is the committee-written document entitled Always Our Children. Even the rewrite, done at the insistence of the Vatican, contains the direction to "Church Ministers" to use the word "gay" when speaking publicly.
A press release entitled "Observations on the Pastoral Letter from the Bishops' Committee on Marriage and Family: 'Always Our Children'" by Fr. John Harvey is posted on the Courage website, and a critical review entitled "Observations Concerning the Revised Text of Always Our Children" by Fr. Harvey can be found here.
A history of this document entitled "Always Our Children: Reasons for Suspicion" by Michael Rose (1998) was published in the St. Catherine Review.
Our bishop succeeded a bishop,James Rausch,who we recently learned would go to the other diocese in Arizona on weekends and troll for teen agers. BTW Rausch was appointed during the reign of Jean Jadot and Cardinal Baggio. You can connect those dots with just about every bad bishop in America. Furthermore,Raucsh was an insider with the USCCB.
This was the entire M.O. of modernism - the method was to take Church teaching and try and twist it into a heterodox sense without raising an alarm.
Great point.
A must-read:
Characteristics of the Modernists3. Although they express their astonishment that We should number them amongst the enemies of the Church, no one will be reasonably surprised that We should do so, if, leaving out of account the internal disposition of the soul, of which God alone is the Judge, he considers their tenets, their manner of speech, and their action. Nor indeed would he be wrong in regarding them as the most pernicious of all the adversaries of the Church. For, as We have said, they put into operation their designs for her undoing, not from without but from within. Hence, the danger is present almost in the very veins and heart of the Church, whose injury is the more certain from the very fact that their knowledge of her is more intimate. Moreover, they lay the ax not to the branches and shoots, but to the very root, that is, to the faith and its deepest fibers. And once having struck at this root of immortality, they proceed to diffuse poison through the whole tree, so that there is no part of Catholic truth which they leave untouched, none that they do not strive to corrupt. Further, none is more skillful, none more astute than they, in the employment of a thousand noxious devices; for they play the double part of rationalist and Catholic, and this so craftily that they easily lead the unwary into error; and as audacity is their chief characteristic, there is no conclusion of any kind from which they shrink or which they do not thrust forward with pertinacity and assurance. To this must be added the fact, which indeed is well calculated to deceive souls, that they lead a life of the greatest activity, of assiduous and ardent application to every branch of learning, and that they possess, as a rule, a reputation for irreproachable morality. Finally, there is the fact which is all but fatal to the hope of cure that their very doctrines have given such a bent to their minds, that they disdain all authority and brook no restraint, and relying upon a false conscience, they attempt to ascribe to a love of truth that which is in reality the result of pride and obstinacy.
On the Doctrines of the Modernists
Pius X (1907)
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