Suit Charges Seminary With Pro-Gay Teachings

Newsday ^ | January 21, 2003 | Carol Eisenberg

[eastsider]

Both Bishop O'Brien (Phoenix) and Bishop Moreno (Tucson) sponsor Courage chapters, so there's hope yet.

[yendu bwam]

Always our Children is distorted, as is homosexuality itself. Loving any homosexual, as we are called to do, does not mean condoning homosexual acts. It's in fact the reverse, as Father Harvey points out.

[yendu bwam]

A good place to start would be the "Leadership" of the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries.

The defacto embrace of homosexual behavior by the Catholic leadership has allowed many seminaries to be turned into homosexual brothels, has distorted Christian teachings on sexuality to our youth, and led to the homosexual molestation of a couple of thousand teenage boys. Enough is enough! It's time to dequeerize the Church, and to deflate its homoinsanity. The embrace of homosexuality has led to misery, confusion, ruined lives, and has endangered salvation for thousands and thousands. This is NOT the work of the Church as it should be.

[far sider]

His first clue should have been that they kept spelling it semenary.

[uncbuck]

I hope this guys wrong, but I fear he is right. The present state of the AMERICAN Catholic church is poor, and there teachings are often contrary to that of Rome's.

When will all of the bishops, placed by John Paul II get with the program?

As a Catholic, I'm dissappionted with the way some things have been handled. We may need an internal affairs department, like the police.

God bless our good and true priests.(Over 99%)

[uncbuck]

I didn't think there were any gays in Cleveland, because it was a bad Idea to stay there. What has happened to the mid-west?

[uncbuck]

"..., but when we have transvestites handing out communion, things have gone too far. ..."

Has this happened in your parrish?

This makes me sick.

It might be time to storm the castle folks!

[netmilsmom]

If you have ever been to Lakewood, suburb of Cleveland, you would know there are Gays there. Many of them.

[netmilsmom]

One of the Eucharistic Ministers in my friends parish in Southern Michigan matches his nail polish to this spandex leggins. This is not a joke.
I love the sinner but this is going too far.

[saradippity]

I am sorry. I should have added that we do now, after many years of asking,have a Courage chapter. I believe it was started at about the same time as the program,I mentioned in my last post,started. I am sure it was due to the pressures being exerted as we dig deeper and deeper searching for the roots of this scandal. So some good comes out of everything. "All things work together for good,for those who love God".

Just for people who are interested in what is going on in dioceses across the nation,we also have had an increase in ordinations of good,holy,smart and orthodox young priests. It was one of them that got the Courage program up and running. Only two years ago several of us had to meet Father Harvey out of the diocese to hear what he had to say, One thing our bishop has allowed and something that we think is partly the reason for the influx of new,wonderful priests is Perpetual Adoration. Through these awful times we have had from three to five parishes who have Adoration 24/7.

Poor bishop Moreno has always seemed to just want everyone to get along. The Tucson diocese has always had a couple of good orthodox priests and has had the Tridentine Mass.

It may be that when the problem first became identified,abusing priests,both dioceses were small and may have been thought to be safe,in that the priests could be watched closer.

And while we are showing signs of improvement,our diocesan newspaper's priest movie reviewer continues on with "gay" abandon,touting the wonderfulness of movies that even the USCCB's movie reviewer marked "O" for morally offensive.

[eastsider]

IMO, Fr. Harvey is our greatest asset in "straightening" out the mess that has followed in the wake of the "pro-gay" infiltration of our dioceses. I have communicated with the main office at Courage several times over the past year, urging them to expand the "Encourage" area of their site. ("Encourage is a ministry within Courage dedicated to the spiritual needs of parents, siblings, children, and other relatives and friends of persons who have same-sex attractions.") I am pleased to report that Encourage now has an "email discussion forum for friends and family of loved ones" hosted on Yahoo.

But as pleased as I am by the discussion forum, I still think that the best way to spread the truth concerning same-sex attraction to our Catholic friends and neighbors is to help form local "Encourage" chapters in our individual parishes. JMO.

[Polycarp]

Lakewood, suburb of Cleveland

I went to a conference near there last fall. Due to a schedule snafu we were unable to attend the Indult Mass at St Rose, and attended mass at a church in Lakewood instead. I was so angry over the blatant abuses that I couldn't even go receive the Holy Eucharist, and I wasn't even sure the mass was valid, let alone licit. What a disaster!