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1 posted on 01/24/2003 2:12:52 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
King apologists may point out that he publicly disavowed Marxism and never officially joined the Communist Party.

Alger Hiss never joined it either, and he certainly publicly disavowed Marxism.

Why would anyone believe a word King had to say about his political allegiances and convictions when he was willing to lie to his doctoral committee and steal other peoples' work?

King openly espoused all the talking points which the CPUSA espoused - Soviet-style "full employment laws", unilateral disarmament, etc.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck . . .

2 posted on 01/24/2003 2:18:56 PM PST by wideawake
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Another Communist, Bayard Rustin was linked to King

From 1955 to 1960, Martin Luther King's associate, advisor, and personal secretary was one Bayard Rustin. In 1936 Rustin joined the Young Communist League at New York City College. Convicted of draft-dodging, he went to prison for two years in 1944. On January 23, 1953 the "Los Angeles Times" reported his conviction and sentencing to jail for 60 days for lewd vagrancy and homosexual perversion. Rustin attended the 16th Convention of the Communist Party, USA in February, 1957. One month later, he and King founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, or SCLC for short. The president of the SCLC was Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. The vice-president of the SCLC was the Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth, who was also the president of an identified Communist front known as the Southern Conference Educational Fund, an organization whose field director, a Mr. Carl Braden, was simultaneously a national sponsor of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, of which you may have heard. The program director of the SCLC was the Reverend Andrew Young, in more recent years Jimmy Carter's ambassador to the UN and mayor of Atlanta. Young, by the way, was trained at the Highlander Folk School, previously mentioned.

Soon after returning from a trip to Moscow in 1958, Rustin organized the first of King's famous marches on Washington. The official organ of the Communist Party, "The Worker,- - openly declared the march to be a Communist project. Although he left King's employ as secretary in 1961, Rustin was called upon by King to be second in command of the much larger march on Washington which took place on August 28, 1963.

Bayard Rustin's replacement in 1961 as secretary and advisor to King was Jack O'Dell, also known as Hunter Pitts O'Dell. According to official records, in 1962 Jack O'Dell was a member of the National Committee of the Communist Party, USA. He had been listed as a Communist Party member as early as 1956. O'Dell was also given the job of acting executive director for SCLC activities for the entire Southeast, according to the St. Louis "Globe-Democrat - -of October 26, 1962. At that time, there were still some patriots in the press corps, and word of O'Dell's party membership became known.

4 posted on 01/24/2003 2:54:26 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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Nothing will be gained by dragging King's skeletons out of the closet. All that matters is that he said "judged by the content of their character, and not the color of their skin." Who gives a crap whether he plagiarized his dissertation, or was adulterous, or was a socialist?

The man himself is not important, only his words are.

5 posted on 01/24/2003 3:12:50 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const vector<tags>& theTags)
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8 posted on 01/24/2003 4:03:54 PM PST by Aurelius
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Knowing exactly what and who King was, I love to watch Jesse or Al totally dumb-struck when someone uses King's "not the color of a man's skin, but the content of his character", against them. What they can't say is that King died before he could make the long trip from "man of peace" to "give us the reparations, baby!" just like they did.

I'm sure the Communists thought that King's death would bring a final race war, followed by the collapse of America, they were counting on. But what it did was freeze him in time when the movement was pretending all it wanted was "equality". King has become a huge weapon against affirmative action. Irony.

13 posted on 01/24/2003 9:58:53 PM PST by Deb
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This is what the establishment does and how it maintains its power: it takes radicals, rebels, and revolutionaries and makes them into tame heroes and icons after their deaths. Does this benefit revolutionaries or the establishment more? I'd have to say the latter. Radicals lose heroes who are remade into conservatives. Conservatism itself is remade in the process, but ditching segregationism is the only sensible and creditable option.

The good news for you, though, is that it doesn't look like MLK Jr's reputation can get any higher. I suspect the personality-oriented aspects of the holiday will decline, and King's birthday will be commemorated more as a tribute to justice and integration and not to one man.

14 posted on 01/24/2003 11:59:41 PM PST by x
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Close, but no cigar. MLK is not a socialist saint, he is the new socialist God! The NWO has created a two faced figurehead of ultimate good/evil, the evil (or Satanic) face being Adolf Hitler. With this two faced golem they tyrannize the populace by demanding either deference before the King face or revulsion towards the Hitler face. Any hesitation to produce the appropriate responses to these faces marks you as an enemy of the state.
16 posted on 01/25/2003 10:37:21 AM PST by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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In an era where virtually no public figure dare speak forthrightly on the subject, and even many self-styled conservatives praise Martin Luther King, the fact remains that the only American to be honored with a national holiday does not deserve the accolades he received posthumously. He was a leftist who opposed the Vietnam War and, as this article points out, supported socialist policies and associated with Communists. Furthermore, his personal life was far from exemplary, as this article suggests.


20 posted on 01/16/2006 5:51:49 AM PST by Wallace T.
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King was one of those fortunate people who die at the height of fame.
I believe that if he were alive today, he'd be considered as a faintly ridiculous man who borrowed ideas from others and claimed them as his own and as a man whose conception about American life was wildly fanciful.
21 posted on 01/16/2006 6:05:26 AM PST by quadrant
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Yet we are innundated on a daily basis with this propaganda regarding MLK day. Next year it will be Rosa Parks Day and then on and on and on.....

It gets to the point, where you have to ask yourself, "Self, who is committing most of the crimes in America today? What makes a neighborhood bad? Who commits the crimes in a bad neighborhood? Who makes up the majority of perps that are incarcerated in our prisons?....", and it goes on and on and on....

Has Naming these holidays done anything to boost any of their self confidence? Which it was implemented for.

It is a so called holiday based upon victimism and not optimism.

Another fact regarding MLK. His FBI file has been sealed for 75 years after his death. Why is this? Does he have a few skeletons in his closet?


22 posted on 01/16/2006 6:06:37 AM PST by rambo316 (The democRATS give aid and comfort to the enemy.)
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