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Mark Steyn: Go forth and multiply
National Post (Canada) ^ | 01/28/03 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/28/2003 9:47:16 AM PST by Pokey78

This will be an important week for the world, and I've no idea how it's going to go. So let me come at it from another direction:

Abortion.

Last week was the 30th anniversary of Roe v. Wade. If the greying harpies of the abortion movement were looking to get their groove back on anniversary fever, it didn't work out that way. As has been noted, polls show more and more Americans are opposed to more and more abortions. This isn't the way it's supposed to go. The assumption behind judicial activism is that the guys in the fancy robes are ahead of the curve: Being more educated, intelligent and sophisticated than the unwashed masses, our judges reach today the positions that the grunting, knuckle-dragging public won't come round to for another decade or so. But eventually we will, and we'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

Well, America has had constitutionally mandated abortion absolutism for a third of a century, and it's further away from broad social acceptance than ever. If Roe v. Wade hasn't caught on by now, it never will. In abortion as in war, Americans are at odds with their Canadian and European "allies." My colleague Patricia Pearson thinks this is because "Canadians are becoming more tolerant, Americans more conservative" -- conservatism being the opposite of tolerance, presumably.

I'd say the abortion crowd's problem is that they're up against science. There are those of us who are opposed to all abortion -- I'm one, at heart -- and those who are hot for a woman's right to kill full-term healthy partially delivered babies. But in the middle are a big swath of people whose position is more nuanced, and the trouble for the abortion absolutists is that, thanks in part to advances in medical science, all the nuances are moving in the pro-life direction. The most fascinating of last week's polls, for ABC News, found that 57% of Americans thought that abortion should be legal in "all or most cases," which must have heartened the "pro-choice" types. But when "all or most cases" were spelt out one by one the numbers were very different: over 80% of Americans will support abortion in cases of rape or incest or to save a woman's life; 54% will support the abortion of a "physically impaired baby." But, when it comes to terminating an "unwanted pregnancy," only 42% approve.

But that's what abortion is: the "unwanted pregnancy" category accounts for 95% of cases. The rest -- the stuff with the 80% approval ratings -- are a tiny number of exceptions to the overwhelming rule -- that abortion for most of its devotees is a belated, cumbersome and inefficient form of contraception. Which is what "a woman's right to choose" boils down to. When the crazed ideologues at The New York Times ran a story on the Administration's approach to abortion under the headline "Bush's War On Women," they overlooked the inconvenient fact that the President's views are now more reflective of American womanhood than the Times' or the abortion groups'. Only 40% of women are in favour of the right to end an unwanted pregnancy. In other words, 60% of women don't support a woman's right to choose. The euphemism doesn't work any more.

Right now, the only significant demographic moving toward Roe v. Wade absolutism are the ever swelling numbers of Democratic Presidential candidates. That's because the Democrats brook no qualms on the subject. In the candidates' big panderfest at a "pro-choice" rally, the former Vermont Governor, Dr. Howard Dean, was so anxious to demonstrate his bona fides that he all but offered to perform a partial-birth abortion on audience volunteers. Dr. Dean's candidacy is unlikely to be carried to term, or even survive the first trimester of 2004, so he need not detain us long. But what's more interesting is the broader phenomenon his creepy suck-up represents.

For what it's worth, I don't accept "a woman's right to choose." Given that humanity's only current widely available method of reproduction involves access to a woman's womb, society as a whole has a stake in this question. But, even if one subscribes to the premise of Roe v. Wade -- that abortion is a privacy issue for individual women to decide -- why would one half of the political establishment in America and pretty much the whole shebang in the rest of the West choose to fetishize "a woman's right to choose" as an approved goal of state policy?

Here's the reality: When feminists talk about "women's reproductive rights," they mean the right of women not to reproduce. Fine. That may make sense as a personal decision, but the state has no interest in promoting it generally.

Why? Because the state needs a birth rate of 2.1 children to maintain a stable population. In Italy, it's now 1.2. Twenty years ago, a million babies were born there each year. Now it's half a million. And the fewer babies you have today, the fewer babies are around to have babies in 20 years. Once you're as far down the death spiral as Italy is, it's hard to reverse. Most European races are going to be out of business in a couple more generations.

If you think that a nation is no more than (in our Booker Prize-winning novelist's famous phrase) a great "hotel," you can always slash rates and fill the empty rooms. But, if you think a nation is the collective, accumulated wisdom of a shared past, then a dependence on immigration alone for population replenishment will leave you lost and diminished. God's first injunction to humanity couldn't have been plainer: Go forth and multiply. In the 1995 referendum, when Lucien Bouchard made his unfortunate faux pas about Quebec women having one of the lowest fertility rates of any "white race" in the world, he was on to something. Given that young francophones trend separatist, had Quebec Catholics of the Seventies had children at the same rate as their parents, he and M. Parizeau would almost certainly have won their vote. Instead, Quebec's shrivelled fertility rate has cost them their country.

And why wouldn't it? A society whose political class elevates "a woman's right to choose" above "go forth and multiply" is a society with a death wish. So today we're the endangered species, not the spotted owl. We're the dwindling resource, not the oil. Abortion is like the entirely mythical "population bomb" touted by the award-festooned Paul Ehrlich, who predicted millions of Americans would be starving to death by the 1980s: It's a prop of the Western progressive's bizarre death-cultism. We are so bad, so racist, so polluting, so exploitative that we owe it to the world not to be born in the first place. Abortion fetishism and our withered birth rate are only the quieter symptoms of the West's loss of self-confidence manifested more noisily elsewhere, from last weekend's Saddamite demonstrations to Chirac and Schroeder's press conference. The issue this week, according to the Ottawa Citizen's David Warren, is simple: "Is what we are worth defending?" If you think the Euro-appeasers' answer is pretty pathetic right now, wait another decade, after the birth rate's fallen even lower and their bloated welfare programs are even more dependent on an increasingly immigrant workforce.

The abortionists respond that every child should be "wanted." Sounds nice and cuddly, but it leads remorselessly to Italian yuppie couples having just the one kid in their thirties. In a healthy society, not every baby is exactly "wanted": things happen, and you adjust to them. Legal abortion was supposed to make things better for that small number of women who found themselves clutching a handful of cash and riding the bus to a backstreet abortionist in the next town. But "unwanted" is a highly elastic term: in Romania in the Nineties, three out of four pregnancies were being terminated. Europe, in eliminating "unwanted" pregnancies, is eliminating itself. In Canada, meanwhile, Patricia Pearson assures us there's plenty of other folks to take up the slack:

"Immigrants to Canada from China and Eastern Europe are, I think it's fair to say, more secular and more accustomed to official support for abortion and gender equality espoused in the socialist and communist states they have fled from, than those immigrants to the United States who come from Catholic Latin America."

Well, that's one way of putting it. "Official support" means China telling you how many babies you can have: not a woman's right to choose, but the state's right to choose for the woman. Some "tolerance."

Those of us less persuaded than Miss Pearson by the benefits of totalitarian approaches to birth control will just have to do our bit as we can. Next time you're in a rundown diner and the 17-year-old waitress is eight months pregnant, don't tut "What a tragedy" and point her to the nearest Planned Parenthood clinic. Leave her a large tip instead. She's doing the right thing, not just for her, but for all of us.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aboriton; canada; deathcultivation; italy; marksteynlist; populationcontrol; un; unesco; unicef
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1 posted on 01/28/2003 9:47:16 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...
Pinging the Steyn list.
2 posted on 01/28/2003 9:47:52 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78; ohioWfan; mtngrl@vrwc
This was fabulous. I am bookmarking this one. I love how he doesn't mince his words. Fantastic.
3 posted on 01/28/2003 9:56:27 AM PST by lawgirl (FREEP Congress--we need Bush's judicial nominees approved!)
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To: Pokey78
Because the state needs a birth rate of 2.1 children to maintain a stable population. In Italy, it's now 1.2.

That is tragic for old Italy. Somewhere in hell, Margaret Sanger must be screaming, "No you idiots! It's the non-white races that are supposed to dwindle away!"

4 posted on 01/28/2003 9:58:14 AM PST by xJones
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To: Pokey78
if you think a nation is the collective

Then you're a liberal.

5 posted on 01/28/2003 9:58:47 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Pokey78
Next time you're in a rundown diner and the 17-year-old waitress is eight months pregnant, don't tut "What a tragedy" and point her to the nearest Planned Parenthood clinic. Leave her a large tip instead.

I will leave a tip as large, or as small, or even as nonexistant, as the service warrants. The notion that I ought to subidize personal irresponsibility makes me wonder who this leftist is, and what he has done with Mark Steyn.

6 posted on 01/28/2003 10:01:39 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Pokey78
Pearson assures us there's plenty of other folks to take up the slack:

In Europe, that'd be the islamists. ;)

7 posted on 01/28/2003 10:03:09 AM PST by Schnucki
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To: steve-b
"Next time you're in a rundown diner and the 17-year-old waitress is eight months pregnant, don't tut "What a tragedy" and point her to the nearest Planned Parenthood clinic. Leave her a large tip instead."

I will leave a tip as large, or as small, or even as nonexistant, as the service warrants. The notion that I ought to subidize personal irresponsibility makes me wonder who this leftist is, and what he has done with Mark Steyn.

Consider decaf.

8 posted on 01/28/2003 10:07:10 AM PST by B-Chan (It Can Happen Here! Does your family have an Emergency Kit? www.fema.gov)
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To: steve-b
Tipping is voluntary, taxes are involuntary.

If you don't want to tip a young woman trying to make it in the world yet unwilling to kill her baby to make it easier on herself, that's your decision. Helping other people out isn't "leftist."

Personally, I thought it was a great ending to a great article.
9 posted on 01/28/2003 10:12:02 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Pokey78
Excellent, excellent Steyn.....

Doesn't look so good for the future of Europe. Perhaps Chirac and Schroeder are just the vanguard.
10 posted on 01/28/2003 10:12:08 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Pokey78
BTTT
11 posted on 01/28/2003 10:12:09 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Pokey78
Excellent.
12 posted on 01/28/2003 10:12:20 AM PST by GunRunner (Duff ManŽ can never die. Only the actors who play him. Oooh Yeah!!!)
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To: B-Chan
The notion that I ought to subidize personal irresponsibility

Lighten up. I doubt he's proposing you leave her a large tip if she poured coffee down your shorts. But if she did alright , then give her a break. Maybe she'll give the kid up for adoption, or better yet, the kid'll grow up to change the sheets in your old-age nursing home, so you can get some rest.

13 posted on 01/28/2003 10:12:42 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Nonstatist; B-Chan
That was a great comeback, but it shoulda been addressed to "steve-b".

B-Chan just quoted steve's post... and told him that he should consider switching to Decaf.

14 posted on 01/28/2003 10:15:03 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty)
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To: Pokey78
Damn, he is good.
15 posted on 01/28/2003 10:15:19 AM PST by Alouette
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To: Pokey78
read later
16 posted on 01/28/2003 10:15:40 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: steve-b
It was a poignant sentence to illuminate the article's whole point.

But it seem that the whole point is what you missed if this post is your whole point.

And what is more irresponsible; aborting your race into oblivion or refusing to kill your unplanned baby?

Sheesh!
17 posted on 01/28/2003 10:16:51 AM PST by Thorondir
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To: steve-b
Not much compassion in that there conservatism...
18 posted on 01/28/2003 10:18:02 AM PST by Damocles (Tag. Your it...)
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To: Pokey78
Abortion is complete evil. Destroying a human life before it breathes air. Pure evil.

I confronted my mother over the abortion issue once because I wanted to hear her stance. She is a 'public' school teacher and a Democrat and she said that a woman should have the right to choose because the woman may not be prepared or have planned to have a baby.

I then challenged her that she had told me before that I was an unexpected pregnancy. My father and she had planned on waiting another year. I told her that today, I am darn glad that she didn't excise her "right to choose" and rob me of my right to life. I completely shudder when I consider the thought that I may have been vacuumed out of the womb.

19 posted on 01/28/2003 10:18:22 AM PST by xrp
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To: Pokey78
Nice rant....I almost always agree with this guy.
20 posted on 01/28/2003 10:19:07 AM PST by wardaddy (anybody seen Pandora?)
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To: Thorondir
It was a poignant sentence to illuminate the article's whole point.

Some people base public policy on rational thought. Others base it on "feelings".

21 posted on 01/28/2003 10:19:17 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
Oh please, if we didn't share the "collective, accumulated wisdom" that individual rights and liberties are important and worth defending the loopy lefties would have been able to completely socialize our nation.

Traditional authority is an important source of liberty. One that conservatives should appreciate more than anyone else.

22 posted on 01/28/2003 10:23:07 AM PST by 91B (I'm in a battle with my students over how much they'll learn...and I'm losing.)
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To: Pokey78
"But, if you think a nation is the collective, accumulated wisdom of a shared past, then a dependence on immigration alone for population replenishment will leave you lost and diminished."

Steyn is confusing a nation with a tribe. America is not now and never was a tribe. (Of course it doesn't help that we don't teach American history anymore but that's a different gripe)

Otherwise good post.
23 posted on 01/28/2003 10:24:21 AM PST by Varda
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To: B-Chan
Consider decaf.

Never touch the stuff, and anybody who sullies my cup with it ain't getting a tip, be they pregnant, club-footed, hunch-backed, or two-headed.

24 posted on 01/28/2003 10:26:20 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
You're a hard hearted man, Stevie B.

Sounds like you're cheap, too.

You are also personally responsible for the amount of charity in your heart.

25 posted on 01/28/2003 10:26:37 AM PST by Do Be
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To: Do Be
Certainly not. I am rationally charitable -- to people in trouble for reasons outside their control.
26 posted on 01/28/2003 10:29:24 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
Some people base public policy on rational thought. Others base it on "feelings". 21 posted on 01/28/2003 10:19 AM PST by steve-b

Others seem to think that tipping your waitress is somehow related to "leftist public policy". Which is absurd.

It's also absurd to say that tipping your pregnant waitress is "rewarding irresponsibility". Numbers vary from household to household but the estimated "average" cost of raising a child from infancy to adulthood is something like a total expenditure of $100,000. I doubt you'll be leaving that large a tip, so the Pregnacy is still a net financial cost to the waitress. Your tip is just easing the burden a tad.

Consider it to be your little way of saying "Thank You for upholding the Classical moral belief in Inalienable Rights such as the right to life, and not endorsing the immoral Hitlerite view that certain classes of humans are just disposable trash to be killed".

27 posted on 01/28/2003 10:37:50 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty)
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To: steve-b
He never said that eighth month pregnant waitress was unmarried. Maybe she is working with a husband and although they are not in the best financial state she chose not to abort. I think that's what he is trying to say.
28 posted on 01/28/2003 10:37:53 AM PST by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004)
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To: netmilsmom
He never said that eighth month pregnant waitress was unmarried. Maybe she is working with a husband and although they are not in the best financial state she chose not to abort. I think that's what he is trying to say.

Doesn't matter... even if she is unmarried, she is still making the right "choice".

I think that Steyn is not so much advising his gentle reader to reward the woman for getting pregnant at 17, as for having had the moral fortitude to make the right decision after becoming pregnant. "Thanks for not killing your baby".

29 posted on 01/28/2003 10:41:30 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty)
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To: Do Be
You are also personally responsible for the amount of charity in your heart.

Tips for services rendered have nothing to do with charity, and blending the two concepts is an insult to people who earn a living by providing personal services.

That's one reason (besides the notion of rewarding poor personal decisions) I find the comment offensive. Mixing charity with payment for service dilutes the reward of earning a large tip by providing excellent service, in much the same way that (to use an example beaten to death on FR) "affirmative action" dilutes the recognition of excellent performers who just happen to be members of a preferred class.

30 posted on 01/28/2003 10:42:52 AM PST by steve-b
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Nice attempt to evade the fact that I was referring to the silly notion that I ought to pay a tip larger than what I would normally pay for the quality of service I received.
31 posted on 01/28/2003 10:44:33 AM PST by steve-b
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
This is very true, but I think the poster was saying she was irresponsible i.e. knocked up. All I'm saying is that no matter what it seems, one cannot assume that if she is pregnant and working, she is alone. Give her kudos no matter what.
32 posted on 01/28/2003 10:46:34 AM PST by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
I think that Steyn is not so much advising his gentle reader to reward the woman for getting pregnant at 17

The "crank 'em out for the Fatherland" ideology of the preceding paragraphs indicates otherwise.

33 posted on 01/28/2003 10:48:20 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
We'll read your column next week. Or maybe not.
34 posted on 01/28/2003 10:51:01 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: steve-b
Your post here is a non sequiter.

It has no readily discernable relation to the article or discussion at hand. What am I to take from it?
35 posted on 01/28/2003 10:53:54 AM PST by Thorondir
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To: Pokey78
You want a higher birth rate? Then the government, courts, and industry need to stop using people's children as tools for exerting power over parents and their resources. Sure, abortion contributes to the lower birth rate of westerners, but government agencies, courts, lawyers, and a growing prive sector industry has managed to turn children into the easiest way to gain power over the lives of tens of millions of people. I don't like abortion, but if it were ended tomorrow the disincentive to have more children would still be around.
36 posted on 01/28/2003 10:55:48 AM PST by Orangedog (Accept No Substitutes)
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To: steve-b
The "crank 'em out for the Fatherland" ideology of the preceding paragraphs indicates otherwise.

Now, there's the rub isn't it? It is exactly what I expected your, heretofore hidden, agenda was all about. It took a while, but you showed your color.
37 posted on 01/28/2003 11:00:15 AM PST by Thorondir
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To: steve-b
that I ought to subidize personal irresponsibility

Thus, I take it that you define pregnancy as "irresponsibility".

38 posted on 01/28/2003 11:01:47 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Thorondir
This from somebody who tosses out accusations that another post is a "non sequitur"? LOL!
39 posted on 01/28/2003 11:02:47 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
you seem very touchy about the size of your tip. I bet you harumph a lot.
40 posted on 01/28/2003 11:05:38 AM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus
Thus, I take it that you define pregnancy at the age of 17 in modern society as "irresponsibility".

Yep. (Statement corrected to re-insert the relevant context, in such a way as to foreclose irrelevant observations about the days when people often married at 15 and died at 40.)

41 posted on 01/28/2003 11:06:16 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Pokey78
"Dr. Howard Dean, was so anxious to demonstrate his bona fides that he all but offered to perform a partial-birth abortion on audience volunteers."

Another great one from Steyn.

Hey, conservative movement/celebrity lurkers: Steyn makes a good point above. At the NARAL convention, 'Dr.' Dean made the comment, "partial birth abortion isn't even an issue". In other words, it's a nonsensical point.

Why doesn't someone ask Dean if he'd be willing to perform a PBA. Maybe send a camera crew along to film it live? Maybe Dr. Dean could show us why it's such a great thing?

42 posted on 01/28/2003 11:06:37 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: Thorondir
It has no readily discernable relation to the article or discussion at hand. What am I to take from it?

As someone who spent 4 years working in a restaurant, and now tends bar part-time for extra cash, here's my take. I think steve-b is one of those patrons that goes out with the calculator running in his head. His evening consists of running his waiter/waitress/bartender in circles to calculate the level of service. However, no matter how many times you promptly fill his coffee cup, wipe the wet spots off his table or perfectly pour his beer, his high point is 15% while ticking off every real or imagined slight in service so he can feel justified leaving a $1.50 tip on a $30.00 bill.

Do us all a favor and stay home.

43 posted on 01/28/2003 11:10:18 AM PST by Cable225
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To: steve-b
Charity is not the act of giving something to one less fortunate. It is an attitude of goodwill towards others. Its physical manifestation can be the giving of "alms" or the support of someone who has made a right decision against adversity even if that decision does not personally aggrandize oneself.
44 posted on 01/28/2003 11:10:38 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Damocles
Not much compassion in that there conservatism...

That's because it's not conservativsm, it's neo-Bolshevism, er libertarianism.

45 posted on 01/28/2003 11:11:35 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: Orangedog
Good point.
46 posted on 01/28/2003 11:12:16 AM PST by arthurus
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To: steve-b
Physiologically a woman is in better condition to have a baby at 17 than at 30 or even 25. As I said before, I bet you harumph a lot.
47 posted on 01/28/2003 11:14:53 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Cable225
I tip 20% minimum. Waiters bust their a$$es and take cr@p out the yang from jerks...
48 posted on 01/28/2003 11:16:55 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: Pokey78; JohnHuang2; MeeknMing
How can I best say it?

How does:
THANK GOD FOR MARK STEYN!
sound?

49 posted on 01/28/2003 11:22:03 AM PST by Brian Allen (This above all; to thine own self be true)
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To: Pokey78

50 posted on 01/28/2003 11:22:50 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
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