French Military Victories

NRO Corner ^ | 1/28/03 | Jonah Goldberg, sorta

[Britton J Wingfield]

underarms? what?

[LTCJ]

Disregard the previous Tag Line which was from another post on the French.

[Camachee]

A classic!

:O)

[LTCJ]

underarms? what?

See post #22.

[amused]

LOL....that's pretty bad.

[pepsionice]

The French contribution at the end of the Revolutionary is always understated...yet if examined...their fleet being up near New York at the right time...the logistical help provided...the several thousand French troops being there for Washington...all made the difference. If no victory had occured at Yorktown...the war goes on for at least two more years and the Brits could have eventually taken the south and divided the entire country. The amusing thing...is that congress kicked the French out almost immedately and really didn't repay them at all. The French expected the peace treaty to give them Canada. They would have owned all of Canada and the Louisiana region, thus surrounding the American nation.

[xsrdx]

Well, if you forget this guy maybe...

Napoleon Bonaparte

Still, that's a funny graphic.

[January24th]

Well, if you count the numerous frogs and snails that have died at the hands of the murderous, blood-thirsty French chefs.

Now, if Napoleon had put his chefs at the front of his troops...oh nevermind.

[xJones]

True, true. Of course the Germans whipped the French under Napoleon III in 1870. And the French Army in 1917 came very close to mutiny, although with their generals it's hard to blame the troops. And the French did suffer the greatest losses in WWI, 1.8 million casualties. That great blood-letting seemed to have taken all the fight out of them for WWII.

It is sad though, that Napoleon's wars alone drained millions of the finest and strongest young Frenchmen. Then WWI removed 1.8 million more of their best. That's one awful drain on a country's vitality.

[monocle]

It remains to to be seen whether France will be victorious in the war it has declared on the English language and which France is vigorishly prosecuting.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Actually, The French engineered the victory at Yorktown...without them I doubt the Continental Army would have won the American Revolution.

Correctamundo. We have only that to thank them for. But the French of today deserve as much thanks for Yorktown as you and I do for writing the Constitution. IOW, none at all.

[Eternal_Bear]

Well the French forced Washington to surrender and made him sign a document confessing that he was a war criminal. Of course that was at the beginning of the Seven Year's War. Then of course, they came back and won the Siege of Yorktown for him (folks, no way Washington could have won without them). Washington never called them cheese eating surrender monkeys for some reason. Maybe he knew more about them than this fellow Goldberg?

[chilepepper]

What a cruel thing you have done!

Those poor froggies...

[philosofy123]

Not only France was different then, the whole world was different. The introduction of liberal ideologies in the west was a big reason for the tolerance of the Europeans to the flood of Moslems refugees, and immigrants. The same thing happened in the US. I was at a US embassy in one of our "friendly" Arab country one day, and was surprised to see the big line of applicants to immigrate or to simply to get a visa to the US. 99% of the applicants were Moslems fanatics--As I observed from their dress/appearance! Of course the idiots in the embassy are forbidden to form an opinion simply by the applicant appearance. God forbid!

That resembles a German guy wearing a Nazi uniform During WWII applying for a visa at the US embassy, and our government employee are forbidden to pass judgment on him?

[Britton J Wingfield]

But the French of today deserve as much thanks for Yorktown as you and I do for writing the Constitution. IOW, none at all.

Very well put.

[philosofy123]

The French will be lucky to hold on to their language for another fifty years. Unfortunately! I like their language.

Vive La France

[Enemy Of The State]

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[1rudeboy]

Germany had WWI won.

According to whom, the Germans? According to Barbara Tuchman's Guns of August, the French fought the Germans to stalemate despite being desperately outnumbered and with only a token British Expeditionary force on the ground. Then the Americans entered the conflict.

[weikel]

I like Tuchman but the Germans had a big surplus of guys from the Eastern Front when the Americans entered. They would have gone the last ten miles to Paris and won the war if we hadn't entered.

[yankeedame]

Of course, I'm not sure that the French are the true descendantsof the Franks. The Franks were as physically large as the Germani and the Celts (Gauls)which is no longer true...

From Nancy Mitford, The Sun King,Chpt. 2, page 33:
"..the French are divided into Franks and Gauls, Franks, serious and rather cold, the builders and Gauls, adorably frivolous, the destroyers of this nation."