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WHY THEY HATE BUSH (Pathetic Look At The Shallowness Of Liberal Hate)
AndrewSullivan.com ^ | January 28, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 01/28/2003 2:05:42 PM PST by PJ-Comix

"As one of those W.-hating liberals/Leftists for whom you seem to have so much contempt, but also as someone who acknowledges that the "He's a moron" argument "is not one of reasoned opposition," I want to offer my take on why the liberal/Left hates W. so much. Pretty simply, he was the guy whom we hated in high school: rich, blandly good-looking, unstudious, and popular. We resented that while we were the ones doing all the studying and music-making and painting, he was the one who got to go to the cool parties and who got the good-looking girls. We consoled ourselves with the thought that someday the scales would balance. Now he's been elected president, just about the most symbolically resonant position in the world, and it's hard not to take his election, and his popularity, as a national rejection of the choices we made to be good girls and boys. As it turns out, the rich, blandly good-looking, unstudious, popular kid still gets to go to the cool parties (and his wife is kinda hot too)." - well that's one candid view from an emailer. For more feedback, check out the Letters Page today: a new batch from the smartest readers on the web.


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WOW! What a PATHETIC basis to hate someone---Because you think he represents a type of person you hated in high school. Notice that this liberal give NO rational basis for his opposition to Bush. And you better believe this dopey belief system is widespread among liberals.
1 posted on 01/28/2003 2:05:42 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
Give em the truth and they scatter like rats

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2 posted on 01/28/2003 2:08:16 PM PST by chance33_98 (Freedom is not Free)
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To: PJ-Comix
It is ironic that the libs cry of "Bush is dumb" is heard so often, a slur against the very man that has outsmarted them at every turn!
3 posted on 01/28/2003 2:10:04 PM PST by TheJollyRoger (Remember the Alamo. Remember WTC. Remember the Pentagon. Let's roll!)
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To: PJ-Comix
This reminds me of a P.J. O'rourke piece from the Iran-Contra days that slammed Ollie North...saying he was hated because he was the teacher's pet and the hall monitor.

Some people NEVER got over being on the lower steps of the high school social structure...
4 posted on 01/28/2003 2:10:10 PM PST by Brian Mosely
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To: PJ-Comix
The letter sounds suspiciously like it was penned by someone posing as a leftie.
5 posted on 01/28/2003 2:17:44 PM PST by wizzler
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To: Brian Mosely
I always figured that Democrats were the same losers in High School that you picked last to be on your team in gym. They were also the whiny little shits that cowered in the corner during dodge-ball. And finally I know for a fact that an overwhelming majority of them were B.Q.s, band queers.
6 posted on 01/28/2003 2:17:51 PM PST by MAWG
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To: PJ-Comix
Pretty simply, he was the guy whom we hated in high school: rich, blandly good-looking, unstudious, and popular. We resented that while we were the ones doing all the studying and music-making and painting, he was the one who got to go to the cool parties and who got the good-looking girls. We consoled ourselves with the thought that someday the scales would balance

Wow.

You know, when high school is over, it's OVER for some of these people. Reminds me of my now EX Brother-in-law...high school jock extraordinaire...always trying to cadge the free beer for his glory days. He graduated 20 YEARS ago - stuck in a dead end job in a dead end town, resenting everyone that went on to college and actually made something of themselves.

When you live in the past, you'll be forever depressed, and wallow in self-pity.

From my high school, I found it ironic that many of the popular "in-crowd" crew never left town...they're still there. At reunions, they are the ones that still want to be on top of the social scene.

Meanwhile, those of us that were not "in" - left town, went to college, got educated, GREW UP, and at reunions (those that actually attend) - they are the lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc....showing up the previous popular ones, stuck in those dead-end low paying and no-self-respect positions.

Thank God I was a geek in high school!

7 posted on 01/28/2003 2:18:52 PM PST by NorCoGOP (Peaceniks are Freedom's PARASITES)
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To: PJ-Comix
Pure Bravo Sierra. They hate any conservative who blocks their way to power. They hated Reagan in the same way. The hate I heard directed toward Lady Thatcher in Britain was the same. Shoot, I hear the same hate from liberal Christians against conservative Christians who block their takeover of a denomination, and that's directed at their fellows.

Because it never occurs to them they may be wrong or their may be other legitimate points of view, liberals always call their opponenents dumb or mean spirited.

Now that they're out of power in all three branches of government and both houses of Congress, the spew has gotten pretty bad.

8 posted on 01/28/2003 2:18:53 PM PST by colorado tanker (down with the axis of weasels)
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To: PJ-Comix
I don't think you're reading it in the spirit it was written... it looks pretty sardonic to me.
9 posted on 01/28/2003 2:20:17 PM PST by Grut
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To: PJ-Comix
There was a focus group on MSNBC last night and the Bush bashers were uniformly unarticulate, uninformed, and prejuduced with dumb biases against Bush and Republicans that were based neither on substance nor facts.
10 posted on 01/28/2003 2:25:23 PM PST by finnman69 (Bush Cheney 2004)
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To: PJ-Comix
Bump
11 posted on 01/28/2003 2:25:58 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: PJ-Comix
OTOH, here is what the Democrats are really saying about the Bush administration. Unlike hate-mongering so common by many Republican politicos and their enablers in the media, this piece doesn't have one hateful thing to say about President Bush.

The State of the Union Under George W. Bush

A report of America’s ups and downs under the 43rd President of the United States

A Special Report released by the House Appropriations Committee – Minority Staff:

Unemployment

November and December 2002 unemployment climbed to 6% - the highest since 1994. All told, 1.7 million jobs have been lost since January 2001. Currently, 8.6 million Americans are actively looking for work but unable to find it – more than the combined total population of 10 states. Additionally, the number of unemployed out of work for over six months has gone from 633,000 at the end of 2000 to 1.9 million – a 200% increase on path to produce the worst job creation record of any administration in the last 58 years. When Bush took office, nemployment had reached a 40-year low of 3.9%.

Stock Market

Between Dec 29, 2000 and the end of the third quarter of 2002, the total market value of all US equities has dropped by 38% or by $6.65 trillion [Source: Federal Reserve]. Because of this, many portfolios have been decimated, postponing the retirement plans of many Americans for years.

Poverty

1.3 million more Americans slipped below the official poverty line in 2001, the first increase since 1993. 11.7% of all Americans fell below the poverty line in 2001, up from 11.3% in 2000 [Source: U.S. Census Bureau].

Public Confidence

In ABC News’s January poll, 67% of Americans said they were worried about the economy, and 72% described the economy as either not good or poor. 73% said the economy was staying the same or getting even worse. Similarly, a CNN poll showed 91% believe Congress and the President need to focus on the economy. However, in a subsequent CNN poll, 55% of respondents said President Bush is not paying enough attention to the economy.

Bankruptcies

In two years, the U.S. had the highest rate of bankruptcy cases in history, increasing 23% since 2000 [Source: Administrative Office of the US Courts]. According to the Austin American Statesman, "During the past two years, companies with $626 billion in assets have filed for Chapter 11. That dwarfs the cumulative asset total of all the corporate bankruptcy filings logged during the previous decade."

Homelessness

Requests for emergency shelter increased by an average of 19% in 2002, the largest annual increase in the demand for homeless shelter since 1990 [Source: U.S. Conf. Of Mayors.]

Homeland Security

In August 2002, President Bush vetoed a bipartisan homeland security package for port security, cockpit doors, border patrol, customs information systems, local first responder equipment, chemical weapons safety and other security shortfalls. Just four months before he was to propose another tax giveaway to the well-to-do, Bush rejected the funds on the grounds that the nation could not afford it. Then, just this month, “the Senate rejected Democratic amendments to add first $5 billion, then $3 billion, for state and local emergency responders and the FBI, as well as security at airports, energy plants and elsewhere” [AP, 1/17/03].

According to various experts like Senators Gary Hart (D-CO) and Warren Rudman (R-NH), "America remains dangerously unprepared to prevent and respond to a catastrophic terrorist attack on U. S. soil.” As they said in their report to Congress, “if a catastrophic terrorist attack occurred today, emergency first responders - police, firefighters, and emergency personnel - in most of the nation's cities and counties are no better prepared to react now than they were prior to September 11.” Even more troubling, former Republican governor Jim Gilmore said, “The threats we face are not diminishing… The current reorganization in the Federal executive branch will not be a panacea in countering the threat posed by terrorists.” [The Terrorism, 12/15/02]

Catching Al Qaeda

According to former Bush deputy National Security Advisor, “[al Qaeda] are probably more capable than before." Similarly, as reported in the Washington Post, “Some of those involved in the [al Qaeda] hunt said the government lost many and perhaps most of its best chances to kill the top targets in the critical first month of the war in Afghanistan… Struggles within the CIA and U.S. Central Command, and between them, prevented operators of the armed Predator drones from opening fire on terrorist targets with Hellfire missiles at least 15 times, according to sources directly involved” [12/24/02]. News reports of the last several months indicate little progress in moving on al Qaeda hideouts in the Afghan/Pakistan border region.

Terrorist Recruitment According to the Washington Post, “Islamic militants linked to Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network are succeeding in a drive to recruit young men in mosques, cafes, and prisons for a ‘holy war’ against the United States…Successful recruitment in Western countries indicated the threat of ‘Islamic terrorism’ toward Western countries was growing.” [12/12/02].

Similarly, according to Agence France Presse, “active cells [in Europe] continue to channel funds, provide false documents, recruit members and plan attacks, terrorism experts say…French antiterrorism judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere recently commented that: 'It is absolutely certain that the threat before us is stronger than ever’.” [11/27/02]

World Standing

Even after high levels of worldwide sympathy after the 9/11 attack, polls show U.S. prestige has since plummeted to new lows in Europe, the Middle East and Asia due to perceived arrogance/belligerence. According to Gallup’s Richard Burkholder, “large majorities in most of the [9 Islamic] countries [surveyed in 2002] associated the U.S. with such adjectives as ‘aggressive,’ ‘conceited,’ ‘easily provoked,’ ‘ruthless,’ as a country which adopted biased policies in world affairs…” [National Journal, 333/20/02].

Budget Deficit

A budget surplus of $236 billion in 2000 has evaporated into a $157 billion deficit for 2002, with more red ink projected. Many respected private sector budget forecasters now predict the Bush 2004 deficit to be in the $300 to $350 billion range, meaning a half-trillion-dollar negative change in the government’s fiscal picture since Bush took office. The predicted 2004 deficit of $350 billion would eclipse the previous record deficit level of $290.4 billion set in 1992 by the first President Bush [Source: CBO].

Education Funding

Weeks after the President’s promise to “write a healthy check” for education when signing the “No Child Left Behind Act”, he submitted a 2003 budget that actually cut education the programs within the No Child Left Behind Act by $90 million. The White House 2004 budget proposal for Title I (the main program targeting aid to disadvantaged children) is expected to fall more than $6 billion short of what is promised in the new education law.

Tax Breaks for the Well-to-Do

Almost 40% of Bush’s first tax cut went to the richest 1% of the country – those making more than $373,000 per year. The average tax cut for that sliver of the population was $53,123. Similarly, with Bush’s second tax cut proposal, the same sliver of the population would receive an average tax cut of $30,127, while the average working family would receive about $289 [Source: Citizens for Tax Justice].

Uninsured

The number of Americans without health insurance rose by 1.4 million in 2001, after dropping in 1999 and 2000 [Source: Census Bureau]. The percentage of small-businesses (under 200 employees) offering health benefits dropped from 67% in 2000 to 65% in 2001 and 61% in 2002 [Kaiser Family Foundation].

Health Care Costs

Monthly premiums for employer-sponsored health insurance rose by 12.7% between spring 2001 and spring 2002, the largest increase since 1990 [Source: Kaiser Family Foundation]. Additionally, the Consumer Price Index for medical care rose at a rate of 5.1% during the first eleven months of 2002 and by 4.8% in 2001, compared to increases of 4.2% in 2000 and in the 2.9 to 3.7% range in the preceding four years [Source: BLS].

Environment

In June 2002, the EPA “warned in a report to the United Nations of significant effects on the environment from climate change” with “changes over the next few decades expected to put Southeastern coastal communities at greater risk of storm surges, prompt more uncomfortable heat waves in cities and reduce snowpack and water supplies in the West.” Nonetheless, “President Bush dismissed the report” suggesting “nothing to deal with heat-trapping ‘greenhouse’ pollution beyond voluntary action by industry [AP, 6/4/02]. Previously, Bush unilaterally withdrew the United States from the Kyoto Treaty, an international agreement to reduce greenhouse emissions.

Toxic Cleanups

In 2002, “the Bush administration decided to designate fewer [toxic] sites for restoration and to shift the bulk of the costs from industry to taxpayers” [NY Times, 2/24/02]. [CNN, 2/24/02]. Later that year, Bush’s “Environmental Protection Agency denied requests from its own regional offices to continue cleanup actions at 33 sites in 19 states” [Wall Street Journal, 7/2/02]

Crime

Serious crime is up 2.1% for 2001 - the first increase in 10 years, reversing the downward trend started in 1991; between 2000 and 2001, robberies up 3.7%, murders up 2.5% [Source: FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Program]. The upward trend expected to continue for 2002.

12 posted on 01/28/2003 2:27:00 PM PST by MurryMom
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To: PJ-Comix
We resented that while we were the ones doing all the studying and music-making and painting, he was the one who got to go to the cool parties and who got the good-looking girls.

That's 'cause we good-lookin' chicks don't like whiny poser artistes who wear berets and smoke American Spirit cigarettes.
14 posted on 01/28/2003 2:29:21 PM PST by Xenalyte
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To: NorCoGOP
Reminds me of my now EX Brother-in-law...high school jock extraordinaire...always trying to cadge the free beer for his glory days.

Al Bundy was your brother-in-law?
15 posted on 01/28/2003 2:30:12 PM PST by Xenalyte
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To: PJ-Comix
We resented that while we were the ones doing all the studying and music-making and painting

Painting? What on EARTH did I miss in high school, being that I was in the "cool" crowd.......LOL.

16 posted on 01/28/2003 2:30:36 PM PST by Howlin
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To: mason123
Ahem, that was a letter HE got, not one HE wrote.
17 posted on 01/28/2003 2:31:28 PM PST by Howlin
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To: MurryMom
Weasel words.
18 posted on 01/28/2003 2:31:43 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (289 Million Americans Avoid Peace Rallies. Press cover-up bigger than Watergate!)
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To: PJ-Comix
Bratty children - I was right all along!!
19 posted on 01/28/2003 2:31:45 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Syracuse where are you?)
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To: MAWG
I always figured that Democrats were the same losers in High School that you picked last to be on your team in gym. They were also the whiny little shits that cowered in the corner during dodge-ball. And finally I know for a fact that an overwhelming majority of them were B.Q.s, band queers.

Ironically, many of them also characterize liberal thought vs. mainstream America as nerds vs. jocks. They take it even further and suppose their thought lines are because of evolution and mainstream America is a bit behind on the Darwin chart.

Of course they consider freepers as less than neanderthal but frankly I consider that a compliment!

BTW as a former band geek, you try carrying a bass drum in 90 degree heat, wearing a 3-layer polyester uniform for a 3 hour parade, then you can talk to me. ;-)

20 posted on 01/28/2003 2:32:06 PM PST by amused (don't call them liberals, they're socialists)
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To: Brian Mosely
Bill Clinton was the one "we" all hated in high schoo; you know, hung out at the guidance counselor's office and brown-nosed, and told on us for smoking in the bathroom to score points.
21 posted on 01/28/2003 2:32:30 PM PST by Howlin
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To: NorCoGOP
When people start talking about how "popular" people were, I immediately think they must have been blackballed from some social club.
22 posted on 01/28/2003 2:34:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: MurryMom
So is all that just another way of saying the rich, blandly good-looking, unstudious, and popular guy ignored you in high school too?
23 posted on 01/28/2003 2:35:27 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Had to lock up my guns, 'cause they was goin' out drinkin'.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Which ones? Most of that looks like correct, true information.
24 posted on 01/28/2003 2:36:02 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
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To: Brian Mosely
Some people NEVER got over being on the lower steps of the high school social structure...

Revenge of the Nerds?

26 posted on 01/28/2003 2:37:15 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Redundancy Can Be Quite Catchy As Well As Contagious)
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To: PJ-Comix
The reason liberals hate W is that he's a conservative Republican. It has nothing to do with his personality or background. Not that he's conservative enough for everyone at FR, but compared to standard liberals he's way conservative. His opposition to the Kyoto global warming treaty is enough by itself for some of them to have homicidal thoughts towards him.

They hated Nixon and Reagan the same way, and they were nothing like Dubya, especially Nixon, who was the kind of person who studied hard, got good grades, didn't get alot of girls etc. For that matter, they hated Dubya's pop, who was only moderately conservative, but he nominated Clarence Thomas and did the Gulf war.
28 posted on 01/28/2003 2:37:42 PM PST by lasereye
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To: mason123
You could make the same argument about why conservatives hated Clinton

Wrong. I hated him because he was a lying megalomaniac.

Would you like an itemized list of his lies?

29 posted on 01/28/2003 2:37:49 PM PST by skeeter (threads killed while U wait)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
LOL!
30 posted on 01/28/2003 2:38:36 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
" Weasel words."

Indeed, and the rank odor of runny camembert as well.

31 posted on 01/28/2003 2:38:48 PM PST by MAWG
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Why doesn't anyone every fight against the contents of these messages? Almost no one ever does, they just attack the messanger, much like I was called a Kerry supporter because I was for a bigger tax cut and a commie/marxist because I thought the USA patriot act was illegal.

It's funny, I thought FR was a place for intelligent discussion, not cheerleading.
32 posted on 01/28/2003 2:39:27 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Right, just Weasel Words, just look at the sources, CNN, WASH POST, etc etc etc

http://w-04.com

33 posted on 01/28/2003 2:39:31 PM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign aka BushBot)
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To: MurryMom
The Nasdaq was off 50%, ON THE DAY CLINTON LEFT OFFICE Murry Mom.
34 posted on 01/28/2003 2:39:42 PM PST by kylaka
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To: PJ-Comix
Liberals hate everything and everyone they don't understand, and that is everyone and everything with honesty and integrety. Little wonder they hate President Bush then, is it?
35 posted on 01/28/2003 2:40:18 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Ignorance ain't bliss)
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To: skeeter; mason123
THE CLINTON CRIME LIST

(247 crimes - so far) (Only 35 of them are for SEX)

36 posted on 01/28/2003 2:40:32 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Karsus
It's funny, I thought FR was a place for intelligent discussion, not cheerleading.

It is.....but your slip is showing.

37 posted on 01/28/2003 2:41:37 PM PST by amused (don't call them liberals, they're socialists)
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To: MurryMom
You are still here? I though maybe you died. Hey, MM, get those Clinton kneepads, get on a plane, take a Bush-hating sign, and become a human shield. We will all love you for it.
38 posted on 01/28/2003 2:41:52 PM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons live their remaining days in orange jumpsuits)
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To: Karsus
FRee, means FRee. and we don't HAVE to lower ourselves to your intelligence levels and refute BOGUS information.
39 posted on 01/28/2003 2:43:35 PM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign aka BushBot)
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To: mason123
You could make the same argument about why conservatives hated Clinton: He was the guy in high school who got all the chicks...

That only proves you don't know what you're talking about.


40 posted on 01/28/2003 2:44:15 PM PST by Howlin
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To: MurryMom
That was an excellent propaganda piece - too much to comment on, except to say that the Dem's always have a problem with the truth - you know, "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". It sticks in their throats - that's because the only truth that they pledge allegiance to is the half-truth. Just one example out of dozens and dozens in that piece:

All told, 1.7 million jobs have been lost since January 2001.

Of course, they conveniently forgot to tell you that more people were employed in the US in June of 2001 than were employed during any time when Clinton was in power. And even last month, more people were employed in the US than in all but a tiny number (perhaps eight or nine months) of months out of the entire eight years that Clinton was in power. So, their unemployment paragraph is just another half truth (a.k.a. "damned democrat lie") that is designed to flummox the suckers.

41 posted on 01/28/2003 2:44:55 PM PST by The Electrician
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To: Howlin
Thanks Howlin. I knew the guy was a B.Q. Had to be.
42 posted on 01/28/2003 2:45:38 PM PST by MAWG
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To: PJ-Comix
WOW! What a PATHETIC basis to hate someone-
<br. It's what the whole RAT party platform is built on, envy and entitlement.
44 posted on 01/28/2003 2:47:41 PM PST by John Lenin (Counting down the days to the Clintons trial for treason ....)
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To: finnman69
Before one goes accusing liberals of being ineffective communicators, one should be very careful to use one's own grammar properly. A good place to start would be to choose the proper adjective and then spell it correctly. I believe you meant to say that "Bush-bashers" are inarticulate, not unarticulate.
45 posted on 01/28/2003 2:47:44 PM PST by irish_links
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To: mason123
You must not know much about Billy's high school days. He was a husky little boy without any girl friends.
46 posted on 01/28/2003 2:49:26 PM PST by Howlin
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To: irish_links
" One should be very careful to use one's own grammar properly."

I agree, Irish. By the way, one's means one is. If one's going to challenge another freeper concerning grammar, one had better be very careful.

48 posted on 01/28/2003 2:52:58 PM PST by MAWG
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To: PJ-Comix
...and who got the good-looking girls. ...and his wife is kinda hot too.

Well, I've got to admit I've never hated Bill Clinton for that reason. Brrrrr!

49 posted on 01/28/2003 2:54:33 PM PST by techcor
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To: mason123
. . . as a national rejection of the choices we made to be good girls and boys

Now the "anything goes" crowd (aka - liberals) are describing themselves as "good". How can the morally bankrupt who constantly bemoan objectivism as irrelevant now begin to use such "judgmental" terminology?

50 posted on 01/28/2003 2:57:41 PM PST by caprock
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