SF CHRON ON FR: FReep This -- How The Right Wing Is Making Itself Heard

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | January 30, 2003 | Joyce Slaton

[kcvl]

"Speech is tolerated there that wouldn't be elsewhere."

Hey, William, you hunk you, lol, how about reading what you idiots post! Pot meet kettle...

[Kip Lange]

The S.F. Chron. might have a liberal bias? Shocking!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't both the Examiner and the Chron now owned by Hearst? Or am I just thinking Examiner? (I mean, not that that changes the fact that it *is* slanted left -- although the Chron is heck of a lot better than the Globe or NYT, I'll give it that)

--CWL

[Kip Lange]

Hey, Joyce! Register and post a thread - - you'll be amazed how many freepers will "talk to you".

Here, here! She says she actively "monitors" us; if she does, then she sure as heck is reading *this* thread, so hey, Joyce, why can't we hear YOU on here? Post up. WE would like to contact the Chronicle. Anybody there? :-)

--CWL

[Fraulein]

Yes, I agree. The liberals also spam the polls. However, when we do it then the polls are considered invalid. However, when the liberals spam the polls, then the results get reported as accurate news.

[capitan_refugio]

"There's definitely a sort of hardcore wackjob segment of FReepers," agrees William Rivers Pitt. "Most of them are decent human beings, but there's a violent underbelly. Speech is tolerated there that wouldn't be elsewhere."

What? Like calling the French "cheese-eating surrender monkies"? Like comparing Hitlery's thighs to bean-bag chairs? Like pointing out Scott Ritter is a hypocritical, Iraqi boot-licking pervert? Not only should my speech be tolerated (because my observations are 100% the truth), but my speech is protected under the 1st Amendment to the Constitution.

It seems to me that the liberal left-wingers are, in fact, the most intolerant group of snot-nosed, sissified, hate-mongering, arrogant, anti-American wimps I can think of. For them, the only tolerable speech comes from their own putrid, festering, phallus-filled oral cavities.

(Sorry, I got carried away. I don't like being called a wackjob.)

[kcvl]

an angry streak running through conservatives pushed to their limits during the Clinton years

I wonder why that is? Could it be that the Clintons are EVIL LIARS who have gotten us in a HUGE MESS overseas because Hillary's "husband" was chasing his "intern" while OUR COUNTRY was being ruined?

Yes, we are mostly good, honest, hard-working people who have HAD IT with LIARS, SCUM and FOOLS who think we are STUPID and can't think for ourselves. They must be talking about themselves. Like a bunch of cattle being driven to market.

Repeat after me...right-wing, scary, zeolots, etc., etc. It's getting old folks. Try a "new" strategy. Hillary's "vast right-wing conspiracy" didn't work years ago. It's not working now either.

[Kip Lange]

Yes, I agree. The liberals also spam the polls. However, when we do it then the polls are considered invalid. However, when the liberals spam the polls, then the results get reported as accurate news.

Oh, I know, I wasn't disagreeing with, just stating (or re-stating, I guess) the obvious. However I wouldn't put much *weight* on how important the online polls are. I guess it's cuz I know how easily they can be swayed...This is also why Dick Morris' pipedream of "online voting" ain't NEVER gonna happen (or if it does, will be the worst experiment this country has ever dabbled in).

--CWL

[kcvl]

ROFLOL!!!

Hey Joyce, we are reading the crap you wrote. How about posting here so we can "talk to you". lol! Unless, of course, that was a lie.

[TLBSHOW]

ping

"There's definitely a sort of hardcore wackjob segment of FReepers," agrees William Rivers Pitt. "Most of them are decent human beings, but there's a violent underbelly. Speech is tolerated there that wouldn't be elsewhere."

[Kip Lange]

It seems to me that the liberal left-wingers are, in fact, the most intolerant group of snot-nosed, sissified, hate-mongering, arrogant, anti-American wimps I can think of. For them, the only tolerable speech comes from their own putrid, festering, phallus-filled oral cavities.

Okay, I just spat water on the monitor. :-) But HOW CAN YOU LET THEM OFF SO EASILY, I ask? :p

--CWL

P.S. "Oh, I'm sorry, you wanted *arguments*? This is abuse!" ;-)

[kcvl]

LOL!

[Political Junkie Too]

This means that conservative, right-wing, media outlets and exchanges of thought are on the liberal watch-list. They tipped their hand with Daschle's rant against Limbaugh; they decried the lack of a liberal Limbaugh; they feigned surrender of liberal bias in the elite media to conservatives.

Now they are using their resources to intimidate those groups (such as here). A common theme in this piece is that thoughts are allowed here that would be suppressed elsewhere.

"Speech is tolerated there that wouldn't be elsewhere."

"And it's not typical of that group, but it does speak to a level of tolerance for violent speech on the right that I don't think is appropriate.

More deliberate is the attempt to recast Freepers as the new "militia group" of cyberspace:

"But then, well, there are those other tactics some FReepers have been known to use."

"A small number of FReepers believe so strongly in the ultimate good of their goals that they don't mind advocating or even participating in activities that are scary, violent and illegal."

"Still, it's incidents like this that show a certain scary side of the FReepers."

"There's definitely a sort of hardcore wackjob segment of FReepers"

"And under any other presidential administration, the FReepers might be such a radical fringe that they wouldn't matter much."

"The FReepers represent a narrow fringe within the Republican realm," says Pitt. "And all the people who believe what [FReepers] believe are now running the government."[How narrow can the fringe be if controls all branches of the federal government?]

"I have no doubt most FReepers are honest, law-abiding people. It's just the lunatic fringe I worry about."

Between the compliments, we are being demonized by the Left. Welcome to the club.

-PJ

[TLBSHOW]

Ya think she will answer?

joyce@sfgate.com

[Fraulein]

Liberals are having hissy fits because they never thought that the right would ever be able to organize. Since the 1960s they thought that they were always superior in this regard. But the times they are a changing...

[Kip Lange]

Between the compliments, we are being demonized by the Left. Welcome to the club.

Excellent points, and I've always BEEN in the club. :p Bring it on, I say, bring it on. :-) People listen to Rush; people post here; they can't stop it. We're also exercising another right at FR -- freedom of assembly. :p

--CWL

P.S. The most damning thing about the article is the lack of...*ding*...a conservative voice, perhaps. But then again, we were all mailed and asked our opinions, right? :-)

[Kip Lange]

Great minds think alike ;-). (See my post right after yours)

--CWL

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Steele's webmaster later told the LA Weekly that hundreds of "donations" listing fake credit-card numbers ended up costing Steele around $4,000, since she had to pay her e-commerce service company 25 to 35 cents to process each one.

Yeah right. Do the math.

Didn't Sharque get canned for reporting this lie?

[Fraulein]

I bet Al Gore wishes he had never invented the internet.

[Movemout]

"It's just the lunatic fringe I worry about"

Then you might want to start by cleaning up your leftist lunatic fringe. It may take you a while because it is so large a portion of your party.

Why do you think Free Rublic was started? How did we grow so large? Joyce, you have missed the boat.

You want to see lunatics? Go to David Allen's Democratic Underground site and peruse the hateful and often unintelligible garbage spewed out a la Linda Blair in The Exorcist. You liberal elitists are arrogant to the point of irrelevancy.

[Fraulein]

On the other hand, look at how she characterizes the "left-leaning" activists:

"The FReepers often accomplish their aims with tactics familiar to their left-leaning counterparts -- peaceful demonstrations with signs and speakers, as well as phone calls, letters and e-mails to support conservative figures calls..."