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Of Moses and America (Great Read)
boblonsberry.com ^ | 1/30/03 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 01/30/2003 8:13:32 AM PST by shortstop

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It’s time to settle the score on Saddam Hussein. It’s time to take him out. Peacefully, or not so peacefully. We freed ourselves, we freed the slaves, we freed the French and we freed the Bosnians. Now we’re going to free the Iraqis.
1 posted on 01/30/2003 8:13:32 AM PST by shortstop
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To: shortstop
You're right
That IS a good read.
2 posted on 01/30/2003 8:35:44 AM PST by reformed_democrat
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To: shortstop
Hmmmm, Bush as the modern-day Moses (at least on one level)...well, Moses also had a speech impediment....
4 posted on 01/30/2003 9:28:59 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: shortstop
And I figure God’s going to be cool with that.

I think He will, too.

5 posted on 01/30/2003 9:34:34 AM PST by P.O.E. (France will waffle and change it's mind on the war within a week, I predict.)
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To: shortstop
Good read.

Whatever happened to "freedom FROM religion" though??? </sarcasm>
6 posted on 01/30/2003 9:44:40 AM PST by smith288
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To: Ancesthntr
Speech impediment? I take it you haven't listened to his speeches, eh? Typical leftist bash - since they can't think of anything else. Loser.
7 posted on 01/30/2003 9:46:53 AM PST by 11B3 (Sedition and Treason are DemonRat character traits.)
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To: shortstop
some kind of Jewish guy

Moses and those with him were Israelites, not Jews.

8 posted on 01/30/2003 9:58:52 AM PST by DensaMensa (The words Israelite and Jew don't mean the same thing.)
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To: DensaMensa; OrthodoxPresbyterian; RnMomof7; Jean Chauvin; gdebrae; A.J.Armitage; gal220
I once corrected a Jewish girl on this very point. She had been joking that Charlton Heston made a lousy Moses because he doesn't look Jewish. I pointed out that Moses was a Levite, not a member of Judah-Benjamin.

Being trained in Judaism, she immediately admitted that I was correct.

(Interestingly, the partitioning of the Old Testament kingdom of Israel into Israel and Judah after the death of Solomon actually moved the identifier "Israel" away from Judah. Israel became [so to speak] the group which would later be the Diaspora!

Alas, I never got a chance to follow up with the Jewish girl about the eschatological implications of this.)

9 posted on 01/30/2003 10:34:58 AM PST by the_doc
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She had been joking that Charlton Heston made a lousy Moses because he doesn't look Jewish.

I've always wondered what "looking Jewish" looked like. (Maybe like Clinton appointee from Arkansas General Wesley Clark?)

10 posted on 01/30/2003 10:52:53 AM PST by DensaMensa (The words Israelite and Jew don't mean the same thing.)
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I once corrected a Jewish girl on this very point. She had been joking that Charlton Heston made a lousy Moses because he doesn't look Jewish. I pointed out that Moses was a Levite, not a member of Judah-Benjamin.

All I can say is that Charlton Heston did look very human in a "Planet of the Apes" movie that I inexplicably found myself watching last night - May God have mercy on my soul.

Cordially,

11 posted on 01/30/2003 10:54:33 AM PST by Diamond
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To: shortstop
Which means that if God had been too ticked off about that dead Egyptian he probably would have found someone else to talk to out of the burning bush. But he didn’t. He picked Moses, the Egyptian killer. To me, that says that sometimes it’s OK to kill people. Specifically, sometimes it’s OK to kill people if you are doing so to defend other people who can’t defend themselves.

Uhhh, I'm not trying to point out things to upset others, but God wasn't okay with it. As a matter of fact, He did not allow Moses into the promised land because of that killing. What are we supposed to gather from that?

12 posted on 01/30/2003 10:56:33 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: Diamond
Ha! You do confess your heresy! We need a Roman auto-da-fe for you!
13 posted on 01/30/2003 10:58:22 AM PST by the_doc
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To: shortstop
Future read bump...
14 posted on 01/30/2003 10:59:12 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: DensaMensa
Who knows? A fair number of Jewish folks are descended from proselytes anyway.

Americans may very well equate certain Slavic features with ethnic Judaism. It's all pretty confusing. All I know is that ethnic prejudice is out of bounds. (This is why I took issue with the Jewish girl's joke in the first place. She made it in the context of exalting the Mosaic Law Code just to scoff at Christians. [And heck, I wasn't even a Christian at the time. I was just a plain old Gentile. But I did know some Bibical-historical facts which she had swept aside.)

15 posted on 01/30/2003 11:08:55 AM PST by the_doc
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To: the_doc
auto-da-fe

I had to look this up.

"When the person impeached is condemned, he is either severely whipped, violently tortured, sent to the galleys, or sentenced to death; and in either case the effects are confiscated. After judgment, a procession is performed to the place of execution, which ceremony is called an auto da fe, or act of faith. "

I don't know which is worse, an auto-da-fe , or watching a Planet of the Apes movie.

Cordially,

16 posted on 01/30/2003 11:10:17 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond
It's ordinarily just taken to mean "burning at the stake." But thank you for the etymological elucidation, brother heretic-TV-watcher-Heston-fan.
17 posted on 01/30/2003 11:14:04 AM PST by the_doc
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To: billbears
He did not allow Moses into the promised land because of that killing.

I did not know that was the reason -- can you provide Book, Chapter & Verse that says this? Thanks!

18 posted on 01/30/2003 12:37:53 PM PST by TexasRepublic
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To: billbears
You're wrong. It was because of Moses' disobedience by the waters of Meribah.
19 posted on 01/30/2003 12:57:04 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: billbears
As a matter of fact, He did not allow Moses into the promised land because of that killing.

Not correct. It was for his disobedience in striking the rock when he was commanded to speak to it.

Numbers 20:7-12, 24.

20 posted on 01/30/2003 1:03:59 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (This is the water of Meribah; because the children of Israel strove with the LORD)
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