NASA STATEMENT ON LOSS OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH COLUMBIA

NASA ^ | 2/1/03 | NASA

[Joe Hadenuf]

They must have some kind of communtications, or reports of a problem from the crew, just prior to this event.........

My bet is that they have some communication from the crew, just prior to this, acknowledging a problem, unless the problem was so damn sudden..........

[Joe Hadenuf]

Thanks......

[Terriergal]

yeah... and of course they're going to publicly say that the loss of the insulation isn't going to be a problem.. because there's nothing to be done about it except carry out the mission. Can you imagine them saying as we watch it going up "whoops we see a piece of the insulation has fallen off... that means they will be burnt to a crisp on reentry, folks."

[Chi-townChief]

That's amazing.

[Steel Wolf]

It has been posted on the other thread that the last voice comm was the pilot giving an instrument reading before the sound faded to static. At Mach 18, whatever went wrong likely became fully catastrophic in less than a second.

[Tree of Liberty]

because there's nothing to be done about it

If the insulation that hit the wing was known to cause a problem on re-entry, at the very least the astronauts could have sought refuge in the space station and ditched the shuttle, or stay up there while the Atlantis or Endeavor goes up to effect repairs.

[Joe Hadenuf]

It has been posted on the other thread that the last voice comm was the pilot giving an instrument reading before the sound faded to static. At Mach 18, whatever went wrong likely became fully catastrophic in less than a second.

No doubt you are correct, however, if debris had hit one of the wings on take off, the crew had to be concerned about that during the mission and it had to be an issue during the entire flight. Do you or anyone else know if the crew and ground control had been discussing this issue during the mission

Thanks to anyone that can answer this.......

[Terriergal]

Possibly.

[chainsaw]

¿¿¿Foam Insulation???

[No Truce With Kings]

"If the insulation that hit the wing was known to cause a problem on re-entry, at the very least the astronauts could have sought refuge in the space station and ditched the shuttle, or stay up there while the Atlantis or Endeavor goes up to effect repairs."

If the wing was damaged on liftoff, then they were doomed from that point on. This Orbiter could not have rendezvoused with ISS. It was in the wrong orbit and the wrong altitude. A nominal launch date of March 1 for the next mission means -- best case and all the angels on your side -- a launch no earlier than 20 February. By then the Columbia crew would have suffocated, as air would probably have run out. Electricity, water, and food reserves would not have lasted much longer. I don't think they had reserves for more than a few more days of any consumable.

Better to go out the way they did. They enjoyed two weeks in space on a good mission and died quickly, without having it creep up on them an inch at a time. I doubt they experienced much pain. It would have been over almost as swiftly as it started.

[DoughtyOne]

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[DoughtyOne]

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[M. Peach]

Any chance terrorism is involved?

[joesnuffy]

[No Truce With Kings]

"Any chance terrorism is involved?"

Zip. Zero. Nada.

Whatever brought this bird down we bought it ourselves, fair and square.

The engineers are gonna be busy trying to figure what we did wrong and how we fix it. But we will.

[Siegfried]

How many shuttles are remaining now? The only one I can think of is Endeavor and I haven't heard this subject mentioned by any of the talking hairdo's on TV.

Thanks.

[No Truce With Kings]

Three. From oldest to youngest:

Discovery
Atlantis
Endeavour

[vger]

God bless the brave crew of Columbia.

[P-Marlowe]

I think the fact that they were discussing a problem with tire pressure right before the converstaion was cut off is significant. It is possible that the landing gear doors had been somehow damaged and the heat from re-entry got into the landing gear compartment and the tires exploded. If the tires exploded it would take out the bottom of the craft and the whole craft would instantly disintegrate.

I'd be willing to bet that the problem stemmed from the tires overheating and overinflating.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I'd be willing to bet that the problem stemmed from the tires overheating and overinflating.

Yes, but something caused that to happen, and losing temp sensors had to be cause for alarm just prior to breakup.