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Warnings Issued About Theft of Shuttle Debris
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Posted on 02/01/2003 5:21:31 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: TXBubba
My comment was more of a jab at the senior Senator from my home state who, live on Fox, was sounding like she knew nothing about the shuttle program. She made such comments as how shocking it was to lose a shuttle on landing because ALL the other shuttles we lost were on take off. There was also another Senator who, not knowing any details, insisted that it had to be a computer problem.
If they don't know what they are talking about I just wish they would shut up and let those that know something speak.
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posted on
02/01/2003 7:20:29 PM PST
by
Karsus
(TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
To: Karsus
Thanks. I thought you were aiming at the Senators but wasn't quite sure. I hadn't heard anyone other than our Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson. She was in Dallas and had some first hand info. I think it would be great if senators would just keep their mouths shut most of the time myself. Thankfully here in Texas our gov. only meets every other year and only for something like 160 days.
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posted on
02/01/2003 7:33:08 PM PST
by
TXBubba
To: Crusader21stCentury
This is all total baloney.
Any volatiles in contact with any part of a metal piece has been COMPLETELY vacuum cleaned by a combination of the high temperatures the parts experienced due to atmospheric drag - and the low pressure due to the near-vacuum found at 200,000 feet.
These are conditions similar to those we use to ultra-clean parts for processing in one of our manufacturing steps - we use a little higher vacuum, but these parts were subjected to MUCH higher heat AND the mechanical impact of the atoms of the atmosphere - after all the parts were heated by friction (impact) and not radient heat as in an oven.
These warnings are a canard to dissuade people from taking souvenirs. Actually there is NO toxic danger from any of the debris that was not totally vaporized on its way down.
Likewise, there is no clue in how the parts landed on the ground. Thus the "crime scene" treatment is rediculous.
There IS evidentiary value on knowing Where each part landed . Related parts that are closer together versus those that are separated by greater distance can be used to deduce the sequence of breakup and rate of dispersal, which may be of forensic help in backward engineering the destruction and determining the sequence of failure.
THUS all they really need to know for each part is, exactly where did it land. Other than that, whether it landed right-side up, left handed, skady-whumpus or whatever was determined by pure random chance and is devoid of significant information.
To: muffaletaman
This is all total baloney. Perfect Analysis. To bad the American people cannot be trusted to have enough civic virtue to report and let lie.
To: Ouachita
WHOA!!!!!!!!!!
When I checked it out earlier today it was only up to $1,200. I can't imagine that anyone would pay this much for a coin that probably isn't that rare, accident or not.
MKM
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posted on
02/01/2003 8:55:26 PM PST
by
mykdsmom
("...you can't preach tolerance if you pick and choose what you will tolerate.")
To: Centurion2000
Is it just me or does this seem kinda ghoulish ?? I agree, for the ones that were posted today, which I'm sure is most of them.
MKM
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posted on
02/01/2003 8:57:18 PM PST
by
mykdsmom
("...you can't preach tolerance if you pick and choose what you will tolerate.")
To: kstewskis
"thinking he hit a jackpot"
He did - according to e-bay - he got $13,000 for it.
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posted on
02/01/2003 9:48:24 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
( Syracuse where are you?)
To: CyberAnt
I have a dumb question: how is it that they found an intact helmet? I would have thought from that height and that speed everything would have burned up.
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posted on
02/01/2003 9:50:57 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
Yeah, I'm surprised by that too - helmet was missing front glass shield, and the silver material appeared to be burned off the back of the helmet. Otherwise, it was completely intact.
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posted on
02/01/2003 9:54:15 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
( Syracuse where are you?)
To: CyberAnt
This is the one thing about it being over land as opposed to be over the sea; we're going to see a lot of stuff we missed last time, I'm afraid.
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posted on
02/01/2003 9:57:01 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
Yes we are going to have to see stuff we didn't have to see before, but I think we're tougher than we give ourselves credit.
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posted on
02/01/2003 10:33:54 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
( Syracuse where are you?)
To: Blood of Tyrants
Wow! The coin started at $9.99 and went for $13,101!The market will be flooded with these things by tomorrow and the microceph that spent 13 grand won't be able to give it away next week.
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posted on
02/01/2003 10:39:42 PM PST
by
Rome2000
To: SSN558
To be more exact Mono Mythel Hydrazine as used on the OMS engines and numerous pocket rockets on the shuttle. The white ammonia smelling vapor from Hydrazine is kool-aid compared with MMH. One would be suprised how this stuff can survive inside of small machinery parts weeks after a fire. But would it survive the 200,000 high speed burning descent from low orbit? Well I'm far away.
To: Ouachita
"Dang, you're not kidding!" I wonder if the seller is still accepting PayPal for payment (the PayPal fee to receive $13,101 for this coin would be $393.03). The coin was going for $15 before the shuttle disaster -- $15 to $13,101 in a matter of hours.
To: Jack Black; SSN558
To be more exact Mono Mythel Hydrazine as used on the OMS engines and numerous pocket rockets on the shuttle. The white ammonia smelling vapor from Hydrazine is kool-aid compared with MMH. One would be suprised how this stuff can survive inside of small machinery parts weeks after a fire. But would it survive the 200,000 high speed burning descent from low orbit?
If body parts and mission patches made it to the ground intact, my guess is that highly toxic chemicals did, too.
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posted on
02/02/2003 12:12:41 AM PST
by
Finny
(God Bless G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, good timing, success, and victory.)
To: tuna_battle; mykdsmom; Blood of Tyrants; eddie willers; DAnconia55; Xenalyte; kstewskis
Un-Frickin-Believable!
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posted on
02/02/2003 12:21:31 AM PST
by
Ouachita
To: Beelzebubba
Would the shuttle pieces be radio-active?
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posted on
02/02/2003 12:24:18 AM PST
by
Eva
To: CyberAnt
Getting $13,000 bid and collecting it are two different things. There appears to have been a backlash against profiteers today with many people running up the bids to prevent the items from selling, or the transaction from being completed.
To: Rome2000
I'll bet that he reneges on his bid.
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posted on
02/02/2003 7:16:11 AM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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