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'Plan Hillary'
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 2/2/02 | Dateline D.C.

Posted on 02/01/2003 10:09:40 PM PST by Jean S

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:02:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON - The State of the Union Address in the third year of any presidency invariably triggers expectations of the next election. Republicans have a proven candidate, President George Bush, and the Democrats have a gang of six — political dwarves one and all — whose faces are marked with neither intelligence nor thought.


(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004
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1 posted on 02/01/2003 10:09:40 PM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS
I wish I was in the President's position and running against Hitlery. I would release everything I have on her 1 month before the election. That is just me. It would take longer than a month too go through it. The press of coarse would ignore it.
2 posted on 02/01/2003 10:15:36 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: JeanS
No matter which way you slice it, it's a nightmare without end. The only way out is not to sleep in the first place. Wake up, America.

Hasn't anyone told this guy that we WANT Hillary Rodham to win the RAT nomination?

Or is he speaking of Hillary's nomination as being a nightmare for the RAT party?

3 posted on 02/01/2003 10:17:06 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: JeanS
I hate her.
4 posted on 02/01/2003 10:17:09 PM PST by Howlin
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To: PhiKapMom; Howlin; Miss Marple; JohnHuang2; rintense; ohioWfan; Dog Gone; Deb; Republic
Get sick to your stomach ping!
5 posted on 02/01/2003 10:18:40 PM PST by Wait4Truth (I HATE THE MEDIA!!!)
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To: JeanS
We never thought she would be a senator either. This is scary.
6 posted on 02/01/2003 10:19:48 PM PST by freedom4ever
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To: Howlin
Me too.
She'll only run in '04 if Bush's numbers tank. Otherwise she'll wait until '08.
She owns the democrat party and she will run for president at some point. I'm sure of it.
7 posted on 02/01/2003 10:20:51 PM PST by Jean S (I love the USA)
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To: JeanS
This is chilling. She will run until she wins. We sleep at our peril.
8 posted on 02/01/2003 10:23:33 PM PST by bayareablues
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To: Howlin
Let her run. She'll no doubt be able to secure the Rat nomination in whatever year (or years) she decides to run, but she could never win a general election.
9 posted on 02/01/2003 10:28:01 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Howlin
The pro-Hilliary factions forget several very important elements:

1) She is very polarizing. Hilliary would do more to get out the conservative voters then any actual Republican candidate could. The hatred of her transcends party in-fighting.

2) She and her message is not that popular with swing voters, particularly the men.

3) She is not universally worshipped by Democrats. There are many within her own party who detest her. In effect, she would have the opposite force on traditionally Democrat voters; repressing their turn out.

10 posted on 02/01/2003 10:30:20 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: JeanS
But when the Democrats convene their nominating convention in Boston in July 2004, there will be no clear-cut candidate. It will come down to a floor vote and "Plan Hillary" will slide into top gear.

" ...Harry Daugherty, then a political operative working for presidential hopeful Warren G. Harding. Daugherty predicted that the frontrunners of the 1920 Republican presidential nomination would deadlock at the convention and that party leaders would "sit down about two o'clock in the morning, around a table in a smoke-filled room in some hotel and decide the nomination. When that time comes, Harding will be selected.

"Daugherty was right. Harding was selected, and later elected. Harry Daugherty himself became attorney general of one of the most notoriously corrupt administrations ever."

11 posted on 02/01/2003 10:37:58 PM PST by gcruse (When choosing between two evils, pick the one you haven't tried yet.)
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To: JeanS
A question remains: Where does Bill fit into Hillary's plan?

Well, that's really a no-brainer. Shortly before the government shutdown and Monica became an intern, Billy-boy complained about not having enough free time to himself. So, his schedule was rearranged so that he'd have a few hours in the afternoon to do whatever. Oh yeah, did I mention this was just before Monica was hired?

Really what difference would there be than when they both occupied the White House before? She was making all the decisions and letting him pretend he was president. And he was diddling the skirts.

The next time, however, she's gonna want to be the one who gets all the credit.

12 posted on 02/01/2003 10:42:08 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: CWOJackson
3) She is not universally worshipped by Democrats. There are many within her own party who detest her.

Good point. I mean, she can't have them ALL killed.

13 posted on 02/01/2003 10:44:45 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: freedom4ever
We never thought she would be a senator either. This is scary.

This bears repeating
14 posted on 02/01/2003 10:44:47 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: JeanS
I have the same feeling as the author of this piece that Hillary will have to be begged to run, just like she did when she eventually ran for the senate.

It is part of the mother goddess mystique.

15 posted on 02/01/2003 10:49:54 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: baseballmom
There is no need to be afraid of Hillary. Unless, you allow her to catch you unawares. Look carefully at this photo of her "praying" at the Wailing Wall:

Notice the gaze. But, also notice that she is standing in front of a wall.

Hillary is a psychopath. Psychopath's have no conscience. She will go through anyone and anything to achieve her goal. However, she has to stop when she comes up to a brick wall. We must be Hillary's Brick Wall.

16 posted on 02/01/2003 10:58:35 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: JeanS
x42 cannot run as VP - because VP has to be able to step in when pres is not able - x42 cannot run again - so VP spot is not available to him.

I can see Daschle taking the spot though.

In fact, with all the boot licking he has been doing for her, I wouldn't be surprised if she has already offered him the position.
17 posted on 02/01/2003 11:01:28 PM PST by The Final Harvest ( Syracuse where are you?)
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To: JeanS
"There is Margaret A. "Maggie" Williams, who was Hillary's chief-of-staff in the White House."

She is the one who took a $50,000(?) bribe (sorry, "donation") in the White House and skated; also (I recall) removing documents from Vince Foster's office (seen by uniformed Secret Service agent).

--Boris

18 posted on 02/01/2003 11:04:38 PM PST by boris
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To: JeanS
Wow! This would be a real edge of your seat sci-fi movie, right? This is a movie script, right?....sure, of course.

"We are the president"..........who remembers that quote?

19 posted on 02/01/2003 11:48:18 PM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: JeanS
PLAN SHRILLARY TO DESTROY, SCUTTLE OUR NATIONAL FREEDOM SHUTTLE.

WHAT A NIGHTMARE.

PRINT FREEPCARDS. PASS THEM OUT!

20 posted on 02/01/2003 11:52:03 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: JeanS
Never underestimate Hitlery.
21 posted on 02/02/2003 12:12:24 AM PST by FReethesheeples
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To: JeanS
BUMPED and bookmarked for following along.
22 posted on 02/02/2003 12:30:06 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Texas Eagle
Hasn't anyone told this guy that we WANT Hillary Rodham to win the RAT nomination?

Just like everybody wanted her to run for Senator.

If she runs in 2008, there's a very good chance she'll win. Why even offer the chance when our country's well-being is at stake?

Conservatives and libertarians keep making the same mistake again and again: they rely on facts, common sense and assume the resulting sense of shame or outrage will thwart the democrats. Fat chance.

We've seen for years that democrats have no sense of decency and no sense of what is right or appropriate. We've seen their continual lack of respect our the country, it's people and the rule of law. But we still invite their worst members to run for office so we can somehow "make fools" of them and then we all stand amazed as we watch these moral cretins get elected.

No thanks.

23 posted on 02/02/2003 12:56:17 AM PST by Schnucki
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To: CWOJackson
3) She is not universally worshipped by Democrats. There are many within her own party who detest her. In effect, she would have the opposite force on traditionally Democrat voters; repressing their turn out.

Look, I'm not saying you're wrong, but who are these Democrats that detest her? I was surprised when Pat Moynihan endorsed Hillary on his way out the door. He had always shown typical upper crust disdain for the Clintons. Who are the prominent Dems that openly dislike her?

24 posted on 02/02/2003 1:36:09 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
You can start with the six Democrats who are openly running for the Presidency, who know exactly what she's about. Add to that Democratic Senators who have seniority but get short changed because of her; Senators have big egos and long memories.

The same Democrats who opposed giving Pelosi her position; the one's who know she's bad for their party.

25 posted on 02/02/2003 1:42:41 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Who are the prominent Dems that openly dislike her?

There are none... it could prove deadly. I think the Brit who wrote the article is pretty dead-on-balls.

HILLARY can't wait for 2008... she would have to win her senate seat in 2006. Definitely not a done deal.

HILLARY will be on the Rat ticket in 2004.

26 posted on 02/02/2003 2:23:46 AM PST by johnny7 (“You know, the children need me!” -HRC)
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To: bayareablues
Show up at any event where she is scheduled to speak in BIG numbers and instead of chanting her praises, everyone raise a Nazi salute and chant over and over "HEIL TO THE QUEEF". She MUST be made to see this everywhere she appears and the MEDIA must be made to see it.

It's a source of supreme humiliation to any woman and calling another a "Queefer" is a form of torment we reserve for those who have earned our bitter disrespect.

Just remember, it's something that Howard Stern thinks is great entertainment, it's profoundly vulgar, and it's a fitting description of Queef Hitlery!

27 posted on 02/02/2003 3:10:24 AM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: Schnucki
"We've seen for years that democrats have no sense of sense of decency and no sense of what is right or appropriate. We've seen their continual lack of respect to our country,it's people, and the rule of law." There are countless examples that verify your comment. The New Jersey senate race and Minnesota debacle being the most recent. At one time I thought that a Hillary campaign would die in "flyover country", but in hindsight, Minnesota IS flyover country and from what I witnessed at the Wellstone , ahem, "funeral", democratic dementia has reached epidemic status. Add the missing F.B.I. files and the leverage they provide and the UNTHINKABLE becomes the POSSIBLE.IMHO the only way to prevent the possibility is to purge the house and senate of any and all members vulnerable to blackmail via filegate and that ain't gonna happen. I will now remove my tinfoil hat.
28 posted on 02/02/2003 3:26:37 AM PST by zygoat
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To: zygoat
I will now remove my tinfoil hat.

Don't. Instead, read Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", particularly the first parts where Adolf rises to power through a host of contenders, and imposes the vision he always had on the unsuspecting dupes who voted him in, and the willfully blind leaders of adjacent countries.

You'll need the hat. Most screw-ups are better explained as the result of incompetence; true conspiracy is quite rare, but when it occurs, it is much, much worse than first thought.

29 posted on 02/02/2003 7:19:41 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Howlin

UGH, WE'VE GOTTA GET HER OUT OF NY AND "PUBLIC" SERVICE...

30 posted on 02/02/2003 7:25:39 AM PST by KLT (NY NEEDS TO BE CLINTONFREE!)
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To: Howlin
I hate her more.

sw

31 posted on 02/02/2003 7:32:16 AM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (Hey New York, "her country calls")..barf.)
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To: JeanS
This scenario relies upon the premise that Hillary! can keep from being asked any tough questions during a presidential run. I don't see how that will be possible with the internet and news orgs like Fox in the mix. Under tough questioning she quickly becomes the shrill harpie we all know and love. In two years internet/PC capability will allow transmission and display of terabytes of info in seconds.
32 posted on 02/02/2003 7:35:20 AM PST by pabianice
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To: JeanS
But when the Democrats convene their nominating convention in Boston in July 2004, there will be no clear-cut candidate. It will come down to a floor vote and "Plan Hillary" will slide into top gear.

Absolutely. I've said this same thing since she announced that she won't seek the nomination and "plans" to serve all 6 years of her Senate term. It's all a bunch of demorat deception.

Selfishly, I hope they do draft her becuase she'll lose.  Then, she'll be out of the Senate in my state.  I have complete faith that the rest of the country wouldn't elect her to the Commander and Chief position, even though idiots in my state voted her into the US Senate.

33 posted on 02/02/2003 7:37:16 AM PST by b4its2late
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To: Mr. Mojo
Let her run. She'll no doubt be able to secure the Rat nomination in whatever year (or years) she decides to run, but she could never win a general election.

The exact thing so many said about the Senate. Believe this at your own peril. This woman will do whatever it takes to win.

34 posted on 02/02/2003 7:41:49 AM PST by ladyinred
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To: JeanS
But when the Democrats convene their nominating convention in Boston in July 2004, there will be no clear-cut candidate. It will come down to a floor vote and "Plan Hillary" will slide into top gear.

The effect of HILLPAC will be seen. Elected officials from state assemblies and the U.S. Congress from every part of the country will demand that Hillary be their party's nominee. Initially she will refuse, but eventually will agree.

Who could resist "the will of the people"? Certainly not a Clinton. So, without the stress, struggle and cost of primary campaigns, Mrs. Clinton will take the rest of the summer for a brief vacation and return after Labor Day for seven weeks — a full 50 days — on the campaign trail.

It certainly worked for others in the Democrat past.

"Nominated by acclaim." (in smokey back rooms.)
35 posted on 02/02/2003 7:42:33 AM PST by tet68
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To: JeanS
Two things I know-

LeBron James will be a Los Angeles Laker next year

and

Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat nominee for President in 2004
36 posted on 02/02/2003 7:52:03 AM PST by socal_parrot (The Horror...The Horror...)
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To: ladyinred
The exact thing so many said about the Senate.

Apples and Oranges. I wasn't suprised in the least that she won that Senate seat, considering the composition of the NY electorate. Winning a general election is a whole different ballgame, and she'd never get the votes of the Independents and swing voters required to win such an election. She's way too despised.

37 posted on 02/02/2003 7:53:00 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: socal_parrot
You really think the egos of Kobe, Shaq, Lebron, and the Zen Master could inhabit the same franchise? It's difficult enough to keep things together as it is these days.
38 posted on 02/02/2003 7:55:54 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
You're probably right, but there's no way the NBA will let him languish in a non-marquee, media center city. If not LA, it will be New York, Chicago or maybe Boston.
39 posted on 02/02/2003 7:59:28 AM PST by socal_parrot (Hillary sold her soul at the 99 cent store.)
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To: baseballmom
We never thought she would be a senator either. This is scary.

This bears repeating.

Winning the senate seat in NY during a presidential cycle (where Algore got a higher % of votes than Hitlery in NY) is different than winning a national election for the Top Spot.

However, Democrats start with a major advantage of institutional control of so many electoral votes (NY, CA, IL, NJ, MA, CT). Any Hitlery's kind of polarization can also work in the swing states of MI, PA, FL, OR, IA, MO, OH. So she remains dangerous, especially with a sympathetic media that will be pining for the Clinton era for the rest of our days -- refusing to associate it with all the negatives: the economic bubble, corruption and amorality in government/business, relaxation of our war on terrorism and defense of the Homeland... and now you can even question the role the Clinton's played in squeezing NASA's budgets in favor of more popular social programs (or reducing the deficit).

In the end, I believe for the good of the nation, we have to have a confrontation with Hillary Clinton and the Evil Horde she represents. If it comes in 2004, I hope that the economy is in the recovery it should be (but the Dems will do everything they can to deny Bush that possibility)... if that's the case, and unless there is some tragic result in the next Gulf War, Bush will be unbeatable, so I hope he gets to THUMP Hitlery into the oblivion that she and her "husband" so richly deserve. If Hitlery prevails, it will be the end of the America that I know and love.

40 posted on 02/02/2003 8:01:06 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: socal_parrot
I agree, and my bet is on the Knicks. It's been 30 years since the Big Apple won an NBA ring, and the natives are way past restless. I expect a full house cleaning from them as well, keeping maybe just a few players from their current roster.

The Lakers will pull it together this year just enough to get into the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed, and if they're playing well anything could happen. If I were Sacramento, I'd do my best to resist the urge to be too cocky.

41 posted on 02/02/2003 8:06:06 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: spectre; kattracks
That would be hard to do; and I bet Kat will say she hates her more than we do.
42 posted on 02/02/2003 8:35:56 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Texas Eagle
Why would we want Hillary to run AT ALL?

I believe things like this (especially another Clinton presidency) should NEVER be left to chance.

The possibility of her running for the White House should not be allowed to come to fruition, whether in 2004 or 2008 (or even 2012).

Granted, she is a polarizing figure and her candidacy would probably do plenty to get out the Republican vote, but, again, my feeling is that this should not be allowed to happen.
43 posted on 02/02/2003 8:37:14 AM PST by kdmhcdcfld
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To: CWOJackson; Mr. Mojo; JeanS; spectre
On Brit's show the other night, they were actually discussing whether the GOP put her behind the Joint Chief of Staff at the SOTU so she would be clearly visible to "remind" people of what we're up against.

If somebody did think of that, I hope they keep it up.

44 posted on 02/02/2003 8:37:47 AM PST by Howlin
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To: KLT
I will come up there and fight with you! We just cannot let anything CLOSE to this happen.
45 posted on 02/02/2003 8:40:46 AM PST by Howlin
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To: ReleaseTheHounds; Mo1; Slyfox; All
Good points, all.

But let me remind you what happened in 2000. I'm 110% convinced that the Florida debacle was a planned event. They chose Florida as their Alamo, because Jeb was governor and what better place to pull the rug out from under GWB than in his brother's state - a state GWB was predicted to win with relative comfort.

The outcry of the 'Rats in Florida took away any scrutiny of voter fraud in other states. Remember in Wisconsin, students at Marquette, were gleefully boasting about voting 2,3 or more times. This is just one example. How many other places in this country had the exact same thing going on?

My blood runs cold at the thought of what they have planned for the next election. It is obvious, to us at least, that McAulliffe, the Clintons, and their ilk will stop at nothing to take down our W.

My big fear - those FBI files. The FBI files are the trump card for Hilliary. She will use them, as she has probably already used them.

Just an aside - the other night I was watching Charlie Rose interview Bob Schieffer about his new book. Bob said he knew our W from back in the Texas Rangers days. (Bob's brother was a partner in the Rangers too, I think) He said he was very bright, well read and a really good all-around guy. Charlie says, "Not to name drop here, but I was with Bill Clinton (spit) recently and Bill (spit) says that George W Bush is the best politician he has ever seen".

I say again - We never thought she would be a senator either. This is scary.
46 posted on 02/02/2003 9:04:33 AM PST by baseballmom
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To: kdmhcdcfld
Granted, she is a polarizing figure and her candidacy would probably do plenty to get out the Republican vote, but, again, my feeling is that this should not be allowed to happen.

I agree totally. She's dangerous. She may not be able to win an honest election but could win if just enough vote fraud is pulled off.

While the justice department has made some progress in improving elections and the GOP grassroots poll watchers and others did an outstanding job in '02, we can't breathe easy yet. It is still entirely possible to lose elections, even a presidential, to vote fraud.

47 posted on 02/02/2003 9:10:27 AM PST by NEPA
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To: JeanS
Thank you for posting this from a sane Brit in Pittsburgh...

I have great sympathy for those on this forum who appeal to the political radioactivity of Hillary Regina as the insuperable obstacle to her accession to the throne.

However, there is a true axis of evil (Liberal Left/Complicit Media) which Bubba Rex & friends can exploit to overcome the minority of us constitutionalists.

1. HR will not run directly for POTUS in 2004. She will accept a 'draft' for VPOTUS in 2004 as part of the last-minute Democrating brokering process. If the Dems win (low probability now), she bides her time and looks for an Arky Mafia opening. If the Dems lose, she is now ranked in contender status for 2008.

2. Her lower profile as VPOTUS will allow the media to submerge her negatives in a sea of puff pieces.

3. Of course, any Dem POTUS candidate who has HR as VPOTUS better have a paid up life policy.

4. She is all too aware of the volatility/impermanence of the FBI file data that her attorney Kennedy typed into his laptop and other masses of compromising information - she wants to act before 2008.

5. The Clintons are an opportunistic infection of the American Republic, brought on by the lowered immunity of the great malleable middle of the electorate to propaganda. This derives from utter ignorance of the founding principles of our nation. Anyway, the Goebbels machine of the media will be in overdrive once the VPOTUS gambit is revealed. Many, many will be deceived.

6. I believe the Clintons have something on the Bushes - everyone has played kinda nice till now. Hillary really didn't mind that Gore lost - improved her odds. But once the executive office push is underway by HR, there will be a flood of skilfully-timed, last minute releases of this dirt - real and contrived.

7. There are legions of fifth columnist employees in the nation's largest employer - the government - who will work to reinstate Clintonism. Even at the price of undermining Bush policies, the war on terror, etc.

All of that said, the Bush team is tough and will probably prevail. But we must never think that she cannot win. She will do absolutely anything for power.
48 posted on 02/02/2003 9:32:12 AM PST by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere)
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To: baseballmom
But let me remind you what happened in 2000. I'm 110% convinced that the Florida debacle was a planned event. They chose Florida as their Alamo, because Jeb was governor and what better place to pull the rug out from under GWB than in his brother's state - a state GWB was predicted to win with relative comfort.

Remember this?

www.bushcoup.com Registered to: David Lytel, Democrats.com, P.O. Box 20594 (New York, N.Y.) Domain record created on: 11-01-2000 (six days BEFORE the election) Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: Web site claiming Bush stole the election (formatted in an extremely similar manner to several other sites owned by Democrats.com).

The outcry of the 'Rats in Florida took away any scrutiny of voter fraud in other states. Remember in Wisconsin, students at Marquette, were gleefully boasting about voting 2,3 or more times. This is just one example. How many other places in this country had the exact same thing going on?

Philadelphia: City of (too many) voters

Crime/Corruption Front Page News Keywords: PHILADELPHIA, VOTER FRAUD
Source: Washington Times
Published: 12/21/00 Author: Greg Pierce
Posted on 12/21/2000 04:30:26 PST by Rodger Schultz

     In Philadelphia, "people apparently take their civic responsibilities seriously," Stephen Bronar and John R. Lott Jr. write in the New York Post.
     "In that city, 1,025,259 are registered voters out of 1,065,455 residents aged 18 and over. As a number of adults are ineligible to vote (e.g., felons and non-citizens), the number of registered voters clearly exceeds the number of eligible people," writes Mr. Bronar, chairman of the University of Texas Economics Department, and Mr. Lott, a senior research scholar at the Yale University Law School.
     "These numbers cannot be explained simply by voters being left on the rolls after they have moved or died. Preliminary numbers show some precincts had 100 percent of the registered voters voting, with 99 percent of their votes going for Gore. There is no obvious explanation for how this is possible."
     The numbers also fail to add up in cities ranging from Detroit to St. Louis, the authors write, "and many races apparently turned on those results. Simply making sure that we 'count all the votes' — the mantra repeated constantly over the last month — is not the answer if those aren't real votes."
 

My big fear - those FBI files. The FBI files are the trump card for Hilliary. She will use them, as she has probably already used them.

The only bright side is that these files have a shelf life. Each passing day, they become less valuable as "compromised" targets retire, or are voted out.

I say again - We never thought she would be a senator either. This is scary.

Scary, yes. Hillary's election was another milestone, marking the second failure of traditional Amercian skepticism. In its place, love of celebrity.

2000 also proved that the Electoral College remains the last firewall guarding us from rule by large, liberal population centers. And I understand liberals' white-hot frustration. The Electoral College stems from fairly nuanced reasoning (regional representation over direct democracy); the understanding of which has been so eroded as to be nonsensical, if not downright offensive, to many people.

Given the traction of the catch-all "democracy" among the volley of absurdities during the 2000 debacle, I'm not particularly hopeful.

49 posted on 02/02/2003 10:23:32 AM PST by Mr. Bungle
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To: Mr. Bungle; esopman; All
I believe the Clintons have something on the Bushes -

I've thought about this too. I can't think of much more (in the way of negatives) that hasn't been thrown at GWB already. He has taken a pounding that not too many politicians could survive.

It's been interesting to watch the seeming "non interest" of GWB to go after the Clinton's crimes. The "new tone" dontcha know. Is he keeping his powder dry? If he were to have unleashed the DOJ on the Clinton's (spit) early on in the game, they would revert to their "old news, let's move on to serve the American people" tactic when 2004 rolls around. Americans have the attention span of gnats.

Another thought - I think Karl Rove is a worthy opponent to CarVILE. Interesting that Mary Matalin has taken a leave.

2000 also proved that the Electoral College remains the last firewall guarding us from rule by large, liberal population centers

EXACTLY And remember what Hilliary's first words were - let's rethink the Electoral College. How convenient!!

In Philadelphia, "people apparently take their civic responsibilities seriously....the number of registered voters clearly exceeds the number of eligible people..

I live in the Phila. suburbs. Tell me about it. Do you remember on election night 2000, when Pa. Governor Tom Ridge said, "Hey, hold on a minute", when Pa was called for Gore? Pennsylvania was going for GWB, but the huge vote fraud in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh handed it to Gore. And now, we have Ed Rendell as Governor. So don't look for too much in the way of "election reform" in the big cities of Pa., or the Northeast for that matter.

I say again: We never thought she would be a senator either. This is scary
50 posted on 02/02/2003 11:14:59 AM PST by baseballmom (VOTER FRAUD - BE EVER VIGILANT)
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