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Debris Photos (GRAPHIC)
Yahoo News photos ^ | 2/2/03 | freepers

Posted on 02/02/2003 7:34:59 AM PST by Mark Felton

Edited on 02/02/2003 12:51:23 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

[Your attention please. This thread has generated a ton of abuse reports. Some have been from long established freepers. Others have been from relative newbies. Some have been complaining about the thread. Others have been complaining about the complainers.

Throw on top of it the fact that some of the newbies who showed up on this thread happen to be returning bannees, who before being banned were friendly with some of the very people they are bickering with here, and something is striking us as just not right.

If you are interested in the debris photos, this is the thread for it. If not, don't join in this thread. It is not disrespectful to those who died to post pictures of the debris in our opinion. What they show and where they landed may help piece together what killed these brave people.

If you feel that is the wrong decision, we apologize and mean no harm. But please, no more arguing about it on the thread, and no more abuse reports on the matter.

Thanks, AM.]

Fires, believed started by debris from the downed space shuttle Columbia, burn in an area near Dallas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Seven astronauts perished when the shuttle broke to pieces as it re-entered the atmosphere at the end of a 16-day mission. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)
Sun Feb 2, 1:14 AM ET

Fires, believed started by debris from the downed space shuttle Columbia, burn in an area near Dallas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Seven astronauts perished when the shuttle broke to pieces as it re-entered the atmosphere at the end of a 16-day mission. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)



A video image of a helmet that dropped into a yard in Norwood Community, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia is seen Feb. 1, 2002. Many parts of the shuttle, along with human remains, were found in the area. NASA officials later removed the helmet. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)
Sat Feb 1, 9:31 PM ET

A video image of a helmet that dropped into a yard in Norwood Community, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia is seen Feb. 1, 2002. Many parts of the shuttle, along with human remains, were found in the area. NASA (news - web sites) officials later removed the helmet. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)



A small brush fire started by a falling piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Athens, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during re-entry over Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Fla., Feb. 1, 2003. Authorities have not speculated on the cause of the crash. (Jeff Mitchell/Reuters)
Sat Feb 1,10:35 PM ET

A small brush fire started by a falling piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Athens, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during re-entry over Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Fla., Feb. 1, 2003. Authorities have not speculated on the cause of the crash. (Jeff Mitchell/Reuters)


A piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia is photographed near Lufkin, Texas, Feb. 1, 2003. NASA lost contact with the shuttle at around 9 a.m., about 16 minutes before its scheduled landing at Kennedy Space Center. (Reuters)
Sat Feb 1, 9:31 PM ET

A piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia is photographed near Lufkin, Texas, Feb. 1, 2003. NASA (news - web sites) lost contact with the shuttle at around 9 a.m., about 16 minutes before its scheduled landing at Kennedy Space Center (news - web sites). (Reuters)


Goldie Hamilton looks at a piece of debris that dropped into her yard in Alto, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia February 1, 2003. Many parts of the shuttle along with human remains were found in the area. Hamilton lives in the house in the background. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:15 PM ET

Goldie Hamilton looks at a piece of debris that dropped into her yard in Alto, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia February 1, 2003. Many parts of the shuttle along with human remains were found in the area. Hamilton lives in the house in the background. REUTERS/Rick Wilking


A piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia dropped into this yard in Alto, Texas, February 1, 2003. Debris from space shuttle Columbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:18 PM ET

A piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia dropped into this yard in Alto, Texas, February 1, 2003. Debris from space shuttle Columbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking



Stan Melasky, left, and his brother Steve Melasky look over a piece of debris, believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia, that fell on their farm near Douglass, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)
Sat Feb 1, 7:43 PM ET

Stan Melasky, left, and his brother Steve Melasky look over a piece of debris, believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia, that fell on their farm near Douglass, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)


An Anderson County sheriff's deputy walks past a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Palestine, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during reentry over East Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Florida, February 1, 2003. Shaken NASA officials vowed to find out what caused the space shuttle Columbia to break up, saying they would look closely at the impact of a piece of foam insulation that struck the orbiter's left wing at takeoff. REUTERS/Jeff Mitchell
Sat Feb 1, 8:52 PM ET

An Anderson County sheriff's deputy walks past a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Palestine, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during reentry over East Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Florida, February 1, 2003. Shaken NASA (news - web sites) officials vowed to find out what caused the space shuttle Columbia to break up, saying they would look closely at the impact of a piece of foam insulation that struck the orbiter's left wing at takeoff. REUTERS/Jeff Mitchell


A piece of space shuttle debris sits on the ground outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
Sat Feb 1, 7:25 PM ET

A piece of space shuttle debris sits on the ground outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


Searchers mark a small piece of debris while looking for remnants of the space shuttle outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
Sat Feb 1, 7:29 PM ET

Searchers mark a small piece of debris while looking for remnants of the space shuttle outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


Resident Bugs Arriola looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia, Sunday, Feb. 2, 2003 in Nacogdoches, Texas. People have been told not to touch any of the debris as there could be toxic chemicals on the material. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)
Sun Feb 2,10:11 AM ET

Resident Bugs Arriola looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia, Sunday, Feb. 2, 2003 in Nacogdoches, Texas. People have been told not to touch any of the debris as there could be toxic chemicals on the material. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)


Vollunteer firefigher John Berry looks out at small piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia in a rural area north of Palestine, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. The shuttle broke apart in flames over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/LM Otero)
Sat Feb 1, 7:41 PM ET

Vollunteer firefigher John Berry looks out at small piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia in a rural area north of Palestine, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. The shuttle broke apart in flames over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/LM Otero)


A couple looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia that dropped onto the highway in Alto, Texas February 1, 2003. Debris fromColumbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:23 PM ET

A couple looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia that dropped onto the highway in Alto, Texas February 1, 2003. Debris fromColumbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking


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To: Mark Felton
Thanks for the video. It looks like ice to me and it turned to water when it got close to the flame. It also looks like it may have fell on SRB too. They retrieve those and re-use them, right? Maybe they should look at those.
251 posted on 02/02/2003 12:13:03 PM PST by virgil
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To: sciencediet

A marked piece of what is believed debris from the space shuttle Columbia, lies on the ground in Alto, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Longview News-Journal, Les Hassell)

252 posted on 02/02/2003 12:13:15 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: sciencediet
Slideshows of images here, here, here.
253 posted on 02/02/2003 12:13:38 PM PST by michigander
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To: Mark Felton
Perhaps someone can answer a question. If this stuff fell from 200,000+ feet, how come it just comes to rest? How come it doesn't drill into the ground. Some of this stuff looks pretty substantial, yet it looks like it just fell from ten feet or so.

By the way...I think looking at this stuff is fine. Yeah, I'd rather not see the human remains, but doesnt look much worse than stuff I've seen after car wrecks. Yes, when you consider people lost their lives it takes on a more solemn tone, but overall these are not that "graphic."
254 posted on 02/02/2003 12:14:49 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: michigander
Thank you. I'm looking for a very large piece of debris I saw on TV yesterday and can't find it anywhere. It was about the size of a small car. Meanwhile I'm posting anything new I find.
255 posted on 02/02/2003 12:16:52 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Arkinsaw
The Admin Moderator has already deleted a series of posts like yours complaining about this thread. Stop complaining and DO NOT CLICK ON THE THREAD if you do not wish to see photos of the debris recovery effort.

I also have a First Amendment right and I excercis is accordingly. Just because someone tries to negate criticism of morbid fascinantion of debris in their title matters not to me. It doesn't excuse the poor taste in gloating over a tragedy. THAT is inexcusable.

We are US taxpayers. We have a right to view public photos available widely on the web from news organizations on the cleanup effort. You have a right not to click on this thread.

Being a taxpayer has nothing to do with MORBID entertainment. Yes, I know some taxpayers are pedaphiles too, yet that also is wrong for different reasons. I puroposely clicked on this thread to sober people up and remind them of what is the decent thing to do - honor the dead and not the debris.
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This thread simply gathers photos from news organizations regarding the cleanup and centralizes them in one place. If you don't like it....do not click on the thread.

Who cares WHERE the photos are from. Huslter has photos of women, websites have photos of sadism - according to your logic they should be postable as well. You truly have no bounds of decency.

256 posted on 02/02/2003 12:20:48 PM PST by nmh
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To: virgil
Could be. If you look real close a soild piece comes out beneath the wing (very faint).

It took me several views before I caught that solid piece coming out the bottom. In other words it looks a bit like the solid piece came in from the top, glanced off the wing and continued straight down, while the vapor spray was ejected out at an angle off to one side.

Then again the vapor may have been the water from the ice and the hard object coming out the bottom may have been a tile.

It's a shame that the little camera that was a novelty a couple of flights ago wasn't installed. It was attached to the fuel tank looking down at the shuttle.
257 posted on 02/02/2003 12:21:02 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: crazykatz
I lived in France (in the Pyrenees-Atlantiques region) in 1980-81, during the end of the hostage crisis in Iran, the election and subsequent assassination attempt on President Reagan. The French, by and large, admire and respect America and Americans, and the older French remain thankful for the U.S. for saving them in WWI and WWII. The French government and many dissident factions are envious of America and what we have accomplished as well as the FACT that American assistance was required to rescue them twice in the last century. I am ashamed of the positions of France and Germany as we seek their support regarding Iraq, but I suspect that most of the French people support us.
258 posted on 02/02/2003 12:24:41 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: ZinGirl
HONOR THE PEOPLE NOT THE DEBRIS.

we are honoring the people.....unfortunately they are not with us anymore. All we have left is the debris.

I don't equate debris with people. These were fine people. The parts of Columbia in no way shape or form represents these honorable men and women. It is all that is left of Columbia but photos and memories of these fine people is what lives on; not what carried them to space.

Putting flowers or a flag next to a piece of metal which once held our friends, family, countrymen, and heros is all we can do. Posting pictures of people guarding over all we have left is a way to share the caring and compassion that brings people together.

Metal is metal. It doesn't represent these fine people. If you saw that same piece of metal in a junkyard you'd wouldn't be able to distinguish it from other "debris". To honor these folks, post pictures of them of biographical information. It's much more fascinating and respectful than gawking over debris. It's simply hideous to venerate debris and ignore the individuals who perished.

259 posted on 02/02/2003 12:26:42 PM PST by nmh
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To: Vermont Lt
Some of the stuff is pretty light and wide with a fairly low terminal velocity (the maximum speed it will free fall)

Here is a tile on the roof of a house.


260 posted on 02/02/2003 12:27:28 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: apackof2
I have one more thing we can do.......Pray for the familes

you are absolutely right....excellent addition to my thoughts.

I truly admire the people who have made the effort to put flags and flowers at debris sites, as well as those who took flowers to the space centers in Houston and Florida.

With that kind of strength, and with prayer, the families and the nation will heal and come back stronger.

261 posted on 02/02/2003 12:28:10 PM PST by ZinGirl
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To: Howlin
Reveling in debris found - another new low at FR.

You: I dare you to point to ONE POST that did that.

That's what this thread is all about! Pick a post.

I simply can't equate honoring these fine people with posting debris. To properly honor these people is not to venerate the debris but to talk about the PEOPLE. Share photos or biographical information about the people who perished. POsting debris is not honoring these people. It's sick.

262 posted on 02/02/2003 12:30:09 PM PST by nmh
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To: Pyro7480
Phew... that's a large piece of debris. I can't tell from the angle of the picture, but it looks like it could be part of a bearing or gimbal used to steer the OMS engines or the SSMEs (Space Shuttle Main Engines).

Bearings aren't nearly that big. It looks more like a fuel tank or other sort of tank for liquid, like the ones labeled "RCS fuel tank" or "Oxidizer tank" in this diagram (throughout the shuttle, they seem to have preferred spherical tanks for liquids):


263 posted on 02/02/2003 12:32:25 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: Howlin
If someone I loved was killed in a car accident and nothing to speak of remained of that loved one, would I collect car debris and savor that? Hell NO! I'd be spending time with loved ones, talking about the PERSON and depedning on where I was in the grief process, I might be looking at photos. This is the NORMAL way to honor a deceased person - NOT getting off on car debris from the accident or in this situation shuttle debris. WAKE UP! Have some respect for the PEOPLE killed instead of shuttle parts.
264 posted on 02/02/2003 12:35:05 PM PST by nmh
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To: WFTR
Regarding your questions on research,
NASA has this page
http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/sts-107/

"...The 80-plus experiments aboard Space Shuttle mission STS-107 represent the latest application of microgravity as a fundamental, versatile tool to gain insights in space and improve life on Earth as well as enable future space exploration...STS-107 is a Shuttle mission dedicated to research investigating human physiology, fire suppression, and other areas of research relevant to people across the globe..."


and here is a link to the experiment fact sheet page http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/sts-107/factsheets.html

far too many links to put here.


I hope this helps.

265 posted on 02/02/2003 12:36:24 PM PST by amom
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To: nmh
look....everybody has their own way of coping....obviously we don't have a problem with looking at photos of something that is being shared by our whole country...even the world. Personally, I find it comforting that people care enough to place a flower for a stranger.

You feel differently...and that's fine...please just visit another thread and stop judging us who are grieving in our own way.

266 posted on 02/02/2003 12:37:05 PM PST by ZinGirl
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To: ladyinred
It is moving to see all of the respect being paid to what is left of the shuttle. The flags, the flowers, and the people watching over each little piece makes me know that we are a nation of compassion...

It's somehow comforting and encouraging to see, isn't it?

267 posted on 02/02/2003 12:38:19 PM PST by Otta B Sleepin (Please sign the Adult Alert Petition @ http://www.petitiononline.com/adalert/)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Thank you very much for your contribution.

Although you didn't have it bolded, I noticed the phrase

"even with a band of iron and brass"

(doesn't say aluminum, titanium, and copper, but close enough for government work.)

Thanks again.

268 posted on 02/02/2003 12:39:25 PM PST by steve86
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To: All
Your attention please.

This thread has generated a ton of abuse reports. Some have been from long established freepers. Others have been from relative newbies. Some have been complaining about the thread. Others have been complaining about the complainers.

Throw on top of it the fact that some of the newbies who showed up on this thread happen to be returning bannees, who before being banned were friendly with some of the very people they are bickering with here, and something is striking us as just not right.

If you are interested in the debris photos, this is the thread for it. If not, don't join in this thread. It is not disrespectful to those who died to post pictures of the debris in our opinion. What they show and where they landed may help piece together what killed these brave people.

If you feel that is the wrong decision, we apologize and mean no harm. But please, no more arguing about it on the thread, and no more abuse reports on the matter.

Thanks, AM

269 posted on 02/02/2003 12:50:07 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Mark Felton
Is the thread locked or not? I came back to find "locked, preparing message" (for the locking reason, I guess). Then I refreshed it to get back to your first post and it is unlocked? I guess so.
270 posted on 02/02/2003 12:50:19 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Dan Day
Now that the thread is unlocked, I can comment here too. Someone on another thread (if you know how and on what thread, please respond and post a link) commented on the high intelligence of FReepers and that some are near-genuises. This discussion just goes to show how true that statement is. :-)
271 posted on 02/02/2003 12:51:39 PM PST by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Admin Moderator
Thank you very much. Well said.
272 posted on 02/02/2003 12:51:54 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Mark Felton
I think I see on the video where the ice hits the top edge of the wing...and then something falls straight down under the wing, its very faint like you say, then comes the spray. Good eye Mark
273 posted on 02/02/2003 12:56:13 PM PST by virgil
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To: sciencediet

Al Chauvin sits on his porch in front of a piece of suspected shuttle debris in Rusk, Texas. Photo: AFP

274 posted on 02/02/2003 12:57:48 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: nmh
If someone I loved were killed in a car wreck, and I didn't know why, I would be comforted that people were assembling clues and keeping records. I would be pleased that bystanders were guarding the wreckage until the police arrived.

No one is venerating the wreckage in lieu of the people who lost their lives. The bystanders who leave flowers at wreckage sites are simply trying to express respect.

Please try and look at things from this point of view. Thank you.

275 posted on 02/02/2003 12:57:49 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: sciencediet

A piece of what is believed to be a piece of the US shuttle Columbia lies in the middle of a pasture near San Augustine, Texas. Photo: AFP

276 posted on 02/02/2003 12:59:54 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: nmh
I think some people cope with tragic accidents by trying to understand what happened. They may be even able to help keep this from happening again. It takes away some of the feelings of helplessness. Its therapeutic for these people and its normal. Humor us please.
277 posted on 02/02/2003 1:01:28 PM PST by virgil
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To: Mark Felton; amom
Re the video sequence supposedly showing the vehicle flying sideways:

I have seen that video several times on Fox News and it seems to me that several seconds into the sequence the image becomes much sharper and smaller, suggesting that the camera finally focuses properly. The high symmetry and fuzziness of the initial image also suggests improper focusing. In addition, my aerospace engineering background leads me to expect that the vehicle would be torn apart well before it could reach and hold a 90 degree pitch orientation at that speed.

278 posted on 02/02/2003 1:02:13 PM PST by SFConservative
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To: sciencediet
It looks like a giant ball of string.
279 posted on 02/02/2003 1:03:12 PM PST by virgil
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To: virgil
Bump to track.
280 posted on 02/02/2003 1:04:15 PM PST by jokar (Come on Bucs and Raiders let's finish this off.)
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To: Howlin
This one?

Yes, it's to the right of the yelow balloons.

281 posted on 02/02/2003 1:07:15 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Mark Felton
Someone had asked on another thread about if tiles started separating over California, would they burn up before they hit the ground. I agree with you, they would have a much smaller terminal velocity, and some important evidence might be found west of the main impact zone. Every tile is numbered, and if they started to peel off, they might be able to work their way backwards.
282 posted on 02/02/2003 1:07:27 PM PST by djf
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To: Miss Marple
#275.

Once again, Miss Marple, you hit the nail on the head.

RIP Columbia crew.

283 posted on 02/02/2003 1:07:37 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: virgil
My expert says it looks like a fiberglass or kevlar insulated (that's the "string") tank, possibly for nitrogen.
284 posted on 02/02/2003 1:07:42 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: virgil
Looks like one of those oxidizer tanks in #263 to me.
285 posted on 02/02/2003 1:08:12 PM PST by TomServo
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To: Mark Felton
Thanks for the link to the video. Seeing the video in slow motion was a better way of depicting the debris contact and spray. The vast majority of Freepers are united by the common bonds of decency,love of country and fellow man,love of God and a thirst for knowledge on a never ending variety of topics. FR augments the standard news outlets and the input from Freepers is invaluable to fully understanding many of the issues we face today. I think the desire to comprehend what happened yesterday,is a tribute to the lives and memories of the seven souls we lost.
286 posted on 02/02/2003 1:10:29 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue ("We can pray they are all safely home")
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To: freepersup
Manuevering rocket malfunction?
Software "glitch"/Hacking?
Pilot error? (Was re-entry automtated?)
What other causes might there be?
287 posted on 02/02/2003 1:13:52 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: mommadooo3
http://conservababes.com/columbia/index.html
288 posted on 02/02/2003 1:24:19 PM PST by ALS
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To: snopercod
commend you for using the height="" width="" parameters in your images

This is incorrect. It takes the SAME amount of time to download, and a bit LONGER to display it!


This will merely change the DISPLAYED size. Your browser has to have ALL the data to be able to shrink OR expand to the size in those parameters.

The only way to make it faster is to shrink the picture in a photo or art program to a smaller size, then send it.

289 posted on 02/02/2003 1:25:58 PM PST by Elsie (I trust in Jesus.... THOUSANDS OF EXISTING MANUSCRIPTS speak of Him!)
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To: nmh
I think you should have some respect for yourself and others by leaving this thread. You are getting worked up over nothing, and that's not healthy.
290 posted on 02/02/2003 1:26:45 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: nmh
You are ONE sick person. Leave the thread now!! Everybody here is kind and thoughtful EXCEPT YOU!
291 posted on 02/02/2003 1:28:12 PM PST by crazykatz
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To: isthisnickcool
"Many are experts in their fields, many are near-geniuses."

Near? Just near? :)

And many are just near fields.

292 posted on 02/02/2003 1:28:29 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Spunky
Any idea why when I click on the link you provided I get this message? I have had this happen before.It USUALLY means......

The requested document does not exist on this server!


293 posted on 02/02/2003 1:29:10 PM PST by Elsie (I trust in Jesus.... THOUSANDS OF EXISTING MANUSCRIPTS speak of Him!)
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To: SFConservative
Thank you for your educated input. Interesting. It is appreciated.

I noticed the 'focus factor' also.
294 posted on 02/02/2003 1:33:00 PM PST by amom
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To: Admin Moderator
Sorry for the hassel. Well done. It's appreciated.
295 posted on 02/02/2003 1:35:33 PM PST by amom
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To: Pyro7480; mommadooo3; Dan Day
I found out who said it (the comment about FReepers being near-genuises). It was mommadooo3 on this thread, post # 52. Thanks mommadooo3 for your kind, generous, and true words! :-)
296 posted on 02/02/2003 1:36:44 PM PST by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Dan Day
Check out the pic in post #276. Is that another one of the fuel or oxidizer tanks from the front RCS thrusters, or from one of the OMS/RCS pods?
297 posted on 02/02/2003 1:38:51 PM PST by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Dark Wing
ping
298 posted on 02/02/2003 1:42:30 PM PST by Thud
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To: Dark Wing
Go to this link and run the 8 second video. Columbia had lost attitude control.
299 posted on 02/02/2003 1:43:22 PM PST by Thud
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To: mommadooo3
a lake that really resembles a dove carrying an 'olive branch'. Weird?

When I first saw it, I thought it looked like an angel. :(

300 posted on 02/02/2003 1:45:50 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (kaboom!)
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