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Debris Photos (GRAPHIC)
Yahoo News photos ^ | 2/2/03 | freepers

Posted on 02/02/2003 7:34:59 AM PST by Mark Felton

Edited on 02/02/2003 12:51:23 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: michigander

Bystanders view a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia on highway 84 near Maydell, Texas.

201 posted on 02/02/2003 11:04:52 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: crazykatz

202 posted on 02/02/2003 11:05:57 AM PST by Mark Felton
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To: amom
I just watched this repeatedly (not that any additional viewings changed my mind) and it appears that the nose is pointed away from the viewer. Knowing the direction of flight / descent was west to east, the nose appears to be facing south.

What is wrong is the fact that the ceramic surface is not being presented to the relative wind / angle of attack. THIS IS BAD

The side of the shuttle is exposed to the re-entry heat as opposed to the tiled underside. This would account for the loss of sensors in the left wing first. The aircraft was literally burning up on it's left side.

NASA will find this evidence very useful in it's investigation. Perhaps dispelling the prime (albeit premature theory) that the ice or insulation striking the left wing on launch was the culprit.

One caveat- The damage could have taken place on launch and caused the shuttle to lose tiles on re-entry, resulting in heat damage which then caused the shuttle to lose flight control which put the shuttle in the flight attitude we see on the video. The shuttle attitude is 90 degrees to it's flight path, VERY VERY WRONG in light of the surface temperatures encountered on re-entry.



203 posted on 02/02/2003 11:06:17 AM PST by freepersup (Put That Bur qa On ! Put That Bur qa On ! Put That Bur qa On !)
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To: Mark Felton; Thinkin' Gal; Howlin; McGavin999; American in Israel
Here is the URL for the article about the Israeli astronaut.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77256,00.html

204 posted on 02/02/2003 11:06:28 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: Mark Felton
This is a tasteless thread. Reveling in debris found - another new low at FR. Next thing you know, someone will post the skull, burnt torso and other various body parts found. Geesh, it's not like you have the ability to figure out what went wrong by looking at debris. People who DO have the ability to do that don't view it as a sport or entertainment in morbitity. This is a disgrace and hopefully FR will pull this morbid thread.

PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES. HONOR THE PEOPLE NOT THE DEBRIS. Get your jollies elswhere on debris fascination. You truly are a disgusting individual.

205 posted on 02/02/2003 11:07:05 AM PST by nmh
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To: nmh
The Admin Moderator has already deleted a series of posts like yours complaining about this thread. Stop complaining and DO NOT CLICK ON THE THREAD if you do not wish to see photos of the debris recovery effort.

We are US taxpayers. We have a right to view public photos available widely on the web from news organizations on the cleanup effort. You have a right not to click on this thread.

This thread simply gathers photos from news organizations regarding the cleanup and centralizes them in one place. If you don't like it....do not click on the thread.
206 posted on 02/02/2003 11:11:18 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: nmh
HONOR THE PEOPLE NOT THE DEBRIS

we are honoring the people.....unfortunately they are not with us anymore. All we have left is the debris.

Putting flowers or a flag next to a piece of metal which once held our friends, family, countrymen, and heros is all we can do. Posting pictures of people guarding over all we have left is a way to share the caring and compassion that brings people together.

207 posted on 02/02/2003 11:12:36 AM PST by ZinGirl
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To: freepersup

208 posted on 02/02/2003 11:13:22 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Howlin
Texas should be proud today.

Its hard for an Arkie to say, but yes they should. I am very disappointed that the Federal response does not seem to be providing the Texans with any guidance or information. They are having to come up with a debris recovery plan on a local level on their own it appears.

This really shouldn't be the case. But the Texans are dealing with it effectively as they go along.
209 posted on 02/02/2003 11:14:19 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: TomGuy
This is a tribute worth seeing. I cannot normally look at even road-kill but if we are to know about sacrifice and truth we had better be able to understand what is at stake and what is accomplished and at what cost.

It motivates me to pray assiduously for the families, friends and members of the space exploration community and for the politicos who take this lightly and are willing to support foriegn alien governments but not this scientific endeavor.

Thank you for this thread.
210 posted on 02/02/2003 11:15:35 AM PST by Spirited
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To: Arkinsaw
You know Arkansas would have done just the same.
211 posted on 02/02/2003 11:16:12 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Mark Felton; Howlin; Thinkin' Gal; American in Israel
Thank you so much for posting the picture. It brought tears to my eyes. The article has made mention of it, but did not have the picture.

You are doiing a wonderful job here and should be commended for helping us to know what is happening.

It is good to know that NASA has such nice employees as you and that you are a Freeper.

212 posted on 02/02/2003 11:17:55 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: Mark Felton
You have the support of many here. Do not let the comments of a few short sighted individuals disturb you.
213 posted on 02/02/2003 11:20:05 AM PST by exnavy
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To: Mark Felton

214 posted on 02/02/2003 11:21:45 AM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: Arkinsaw
This is off BBC News - Americas - Remains found among shuttle debris.


Officials stopped to pray after finding human remains.

I believe the person dressed in the blue jumpsuit with the American flag patch is an astronaut. It must have broke his heart to see what was left of his fellow astronaut, along with everyone else on the scene. At least the photographer had the respect to stay away.

215 posted on 02/02/2003 11:22:07 AM PST by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Mark Felton
I'm thinking that a careful investigation will successfully show the cause of this incident, and the correct fix will be applied.
216 posted on 02/02/2003 11:22:44 AM PST by exnavy
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Test
217 posted on 02/02/2003 11:23:38 AM PST by amom
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To: TomGuy; Mark Felton
Thanks for the thread Mark and the post Tom, This picture (post #21) of debris and the red-white-blue ribbons and the red flowers is very touching
218 posted on 02/02/2003 11:24:31 AM PST by apackof2 (Truly slipped the surly bonds of earth, rest in peace brave hearts....God Bless America)
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To: nmh
Reveling in debris found - another new low at FR.

I dare you to point to ONE POST that did that.

219 posted on 02/02/2003 11:25:05 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Spirited
if we are to know about sacrifice and truth we had better be able to understand what is at stake and what is accomplished and at what cost.

An excellent post.

220 posted on 02/02/2003 11:26:20 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Mark Felton
Bump....

Good to show how the debris is being treated with near-reverence. This is probably the biggest national tragedy since 9/11, and is being treated accordingly.

221 posted on 02/02/2003 11:28:15 AM PST by jude24
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To: ZinGirl
we are honoring the people.....unfortunately they are not with us anymore. All we have left is the debris.

Putting flowers or a flag next to a piece of metal which once held our friends, family, countrymen, and heros is all we can do.

Well put ZinGirl but I have one more thing we can do.......Pray for the familes

222 posted on 02/02/2003 11:28:18 AM PST by apackof2 (Truly slipped the surly bonds of earth, rest in peace brave hearts....God Bless America)
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To: exnavy

Dr. James Kroll, with the Stephen F. Austin Forest Research Institute, points to a basic debris field on a map during the news conference Saturday afternoon in Nacodogches, Texas. At right behind the map is Nacodogches Mayor Roy Blake Jr. (AP Photo/Jim Hudelson, The (Shreveport Times)

223 posted on 02/02/2003 11:28:43 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Pyro7480
There are two astronauts in blue jumpsuits in the picture.
224 posted on 02/02/2003 11:30:26 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: sciencediet; crazykatz; Mark Felton; TomGuy; All; isthisnickcool
I decided to include this on this thread, since it has so much meaning to all of us.

isthisnickcool took flowers to NASA yesterday in the name of all of us.

Here are the pictures

http://fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/pictures?userid={DC92A6E3-4D37-4E4F-ADE8-5F5627FCB2DD}&inv=DBF0B29EB0868C0&albumid={7CC0B552-78C0-4777-9601-3DABE860F699}
225 posted on 02/02/2003 11:30:33 AM PST by Howlin
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To: apackof2

02/01/03 --- Scott Walker, fire chief of the VFD, checks a piece of debris with a Geiger counter on Highway 155 10 miles north of Palestine, TX. The metal is believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia explosion that happened Saturday morning. Times Photo/Shane Bevel

226 posted on 02/02/2003 11:31:20 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: VRWC For Truth
Phew... that's a large piece of debris. I can't tell from the angle of the picture, but it looks like it could be part of a bearing or gimbal used to steer the OMS engines or the SSMEs (Space Shuttle Main Engines). With all these pictures, words fail me. The whole thing is such a tragedy.
227 posted on 02/02/2003 11:31:41 AM PST by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Mark Felton
I clicked on this thread earlier this morning when it was just beginning. After returning now, I have to say thank you for giving us a place to post pictures of the debris. It is moving to see all of the respect being paid to what is left of the shuttle. The flags, the flowers, and the people watching over each little piece makes me know that we are a nation of compassion, in spite of what some may say.
228 posted on 02/02/2003 11:31:48 AM PST by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred

Southern red carnations lie near members of the Texas National Guard standing near a piece of debris in the parking lot of Commercial Bank of Texas in downtown Nacodogches, Texas. Debris is flat piece on ground near dumpster. (Times/Jim Hudelson 02.01.03)

229 posted on 02/02/2003 11:34:15 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Mark Felton
The TV is awash with slobering, gap-toothed baffoons who can barely string words togethor-all grinning about the carnage & excitement. "

It is telling that this person doesn't know how to spell "slobbering," "buffoons," and "together."

230 posted on 02/02/2003 11:39:08 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Thinkin' Gal
I'm not as 'smart' as you with Bible stuff and I'm NOT telling you what you 'should do'. But if your discovery is that troubling, did you ask the Lord what it's supposed to mean? He would tell you, right? And would you tell 'us'?

I wouldn't worry too much about the 'flames'. LOL, you have The Blood that has made you 'flame-retardant'.

In the midst of allll this anguish and uncertainty from yesterday, your 'revelation' of columbia's meaning, and the lake photo, just seems like that still, small Voice.

231 posted on 02/02/2003 11:39:33 AM PST by mommadooo3
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To: Mark Felton
If you can tell me, what is the nature of the poisons that they expect to be on these pieces? I've been thinking about it since yesterday, and I don't see how any poisons could have survived the fall. Fox News mentioned hydrazine, ammonia, and some hydrocarbon. (I've forgotten the name.) I can't imagine that any of these hydrocarbon compounds could remained on anything through that much heat. They should have oxidized completely in the fire leaving nothing but carbon and vapors.

WFTR
Bill

232 posted on 02/02/2003 11:42:33 AM PST by WFTR
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To: mommadooo3
WOW! Excellent observation. Kinda makes me feel a little better.
233 posted on 02/02/2003 11:42:52 AM PST by Ima Lurker
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To: Mark Felton
bttt
234 posted on 02/02/2003 11:43:37 AM PST by wasp69 (The time has come.......)
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To: Mark Felton
Weather radar appears to show shuttle debris
February 1, 2003

http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts107/030201columbia/radarimage.html



235 posted on 02/02/2003 11:45:46 AM PST by amom (I am image html impaired)
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To: Howlin
I have been here a long time, since July 20, 1998, and I NEVER knew it was a requirement to click on EVERY SINGLE THREAD, how about you? :-)

You mean, it's not a requirement? Man, nobody ever tells me anything!

Just think, I could have picked a different screen name, if only I'd known! (/end sarcasm)

236 posted on 02/02/2003 11:48:02 AM PST by Otta B Sleepin (Please sign the Adult Alert Petition @ http://www.petitiononline.com/adalert/)
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To: Howlin
You can see out flowers on the front page of the Houston Chronicle in todays paper. Look for the big sunflower:)
237 posted on 02/02/2003 11:49:53 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Mark Felton
Spaceflight Now: STS-107 Mission Report

Mission Status Center

has ongoing updates

http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts107/status.html

also has video clips

NASA coverage as contact was lost

Mission Contorl attempts to regain communication

more
238 posted on 02/02/2003 11:52:25 AM PST by amom
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To: isthisnickcool
This one?


239 posted on 02/02/2003 11:55:36 AM PST by Howlin
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To: isthisnickcool
"our flowers".
240 posted on 02/02/2003 11:55:59 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: amom
Is that drifting northeast?
241 posted on 02/02/2003 11:56:15 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Pyro7480
From another photo, different angle:

Astronaut Mark Kelly, right, carries a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia as he and fellow astronaut Greg Johnson

242 posted on 02/02/2003 11:59:58 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Arkinsaw
That would be a Coast Guard helicopter.
243 posted on 02/02/2003 12:01:10 PM PST by kms61
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To: Howlin

Debris from the space shuttle Columbia streaks across the sky over Tyler, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Tyler Morning Telegraph, Dr. Scott Lieberman)

244 posted on 02/02/2003 12:03:49 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: sciencediet

Tiffany Barney, 19, of Friendswood, Texas, places flowers at the entrance of the Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003, in Clear Lake, Texas. (AP Photo)

245 posted on 02/02/2003 12:05:17 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: sciencediet

A piece of charred cloth, possibly debris from the space shuttle Columbia, lies along U.S. Highway 84, west of Rusk, Texas. (HERB NYGREN JR./TYLER MORNING TELEGRAPH)

246 posted on 02/02/2003 12:07:13 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: WFTR
The poisons will be contained with some cells and may not have leaked out until the debris has significantly slow down (no longer at "burn" kinds of speeds.

Also, some materials give off toxic fumes and resins when heated. Paints, glues, special rubbers, plastics, fuel cell material may leave acids, alkali, or other types of dangerous residues.


247 posted on 02/02/2003 12:08:23 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: sciencediet

A charred piece debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia lies on the patio of a home in Nacogdoches, Texas. (AP)

248 posted on 02/02/2003 12:09:53 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: isthisnickcool
You mean the SUNFLOWER is OURS??????

Whoooweee. You ARE a genius! Betcha didn't know that the 'face' of a sunflower will follow the Son/sun throughout the day.

There are now seven faces facing the Son...following Him.

In our family we 'give' a sunflower to our loved ones who have gone Home. Their faces behold the Son.

249 posted on 02/02/2003 12:10:56 PM PST by mommadooo3
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To: Howlin
Is that drifting northeast?

Appears so.

250 posted on 02/02/2003 12:11:40 PM PST by amom
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