Skip to comments.Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'
Posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks
CNSNews.com) - Lawyers from a homosexual advocacy group took depositions from a Massachusetts parent this week, almost three years after he first exposed "Fistgate," a state-sponsored workshop in which educators instructed teens in graphic homosexual sex.
The deposition of Brian Camenker, taken Tuesday by lawyers for the Boston-based Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders, is an effort to put parents under financial strain and to discourage others around the country from bringing similar workshops to light, Camenker charged.
"If they are able to be able to beat us in Massachusetts, they can continue to hound any parent who gets in their way," said Camenker, president of the Parents Rights Coalition.
Two Massachusetts Department of Education staffers lost their jobs because of their involvement in the state-funded workshop held at Tufts University in March 2000, called "What They Don't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class." The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network co-sponsored the workshop.
Homosexual advocacy groups have been pursuing lawsuits against Camenker and Scott Whiteman, another parent, for secretly recording, exposing and publicizing the event, in which instructors encouraged children as young as 14 years of age to engage in life-threatening sex acts. One instructor told the students: "Fisting often gets a bad rap."
"Fistgate" soon attracted national prominence. Among others, Sean Hannity discusses the event in his book, Let Freedom Ring, and William Bennett talks about the event in his book, The Broken Hearth . This past week, Alan Keyes made a trip to Boston to speak on behalf of Camenker and Whiteman, as well as rally support for their cause.
Legal defense costs since homosexual advocacy groups first deposed Camenker and Whiteman in the summer of 2000 have reached well over $100,000, Camenker said.
"It has a certain national significance as to what the gays can do to parents who expose the stuff," he added.
The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders did not return calls for comment.
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Camenker and Whiteman had a civic duty to expose the harmful and obscene material being presented in GLSEN's workshops. Remember, after the conference, the organizers denied claims of misconduct made by the Parent's Rights Coalition. The audio tape substantiated Camenker's and Whiteman's claims.
Go back to Reply 19 in this thread and reread Chapter 272, sections 28, 29, and 31. GLSEN and their workshop presenters are guilty of breaking the General Laws of Massachusetts by disseminating harmful and obscene matter to minors as defined in section 31:
"Harmful to minors'', matter is harmful to minors if it is obscene or, if taken as a whole, it (1) describes or represents nudity, sexual conduct or sexual excitement, so as to appeal predominantly to the prurient interest of minors; (2) is patently contrary to prevailing standards of adults in the county where the offense was committed as to suitable material for such minors; and (3) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value for minors.
"Obscene'', matter is obscene if taken as a whole it (1) appeals to the prurient interest of the average person applying the contemporary standards of the county where the offense was committed; (2) depicts or describes sexual conduct in a patently offensive way; and (3) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value...
As a member of the homosexual community who has claimed to have attended GLSEN conferences (are you mentoring these kids?), Youhave confirmed that this conference was a completely PRIVATE. Therefore GLSEN and the workshop presenters have no defense under sections 28 and 28. But we know that the pro-homosexual government of Massachusetts would never file charges in a case like this.
It's time to put a stop to GLSEN's influence in the public schools.
Nevertheless, do you think that leaking anonimously this illegally-obtained material would have been a better strategy?
Remember "Deep Throat"?
He/She/They stole secret information and leaked it to the Wash Post. Nevertheless, "Deep Throat" never revealed its identity, avoiding all the distraction of personal attacks, such as accusation of being a law breaker.
The "Fistgate" actors need to learn more about the first "Gate", Watergate
9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
(some believe that the book of Job is the oldest book of the Bible)
22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent (over 100 lbs.): and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
Indeed, Paul Cellucci, the state's Republican governor, has continued to budget $1.5 million for the Governor's Commission for Gay and Lesbian Youth. The commission oversees the creation and support of "Gay/Straight Alliances"--student clubs organized around gay issues.
To: Superintendents and Gay/Straight Alliance Advisors
From: Robert V. Antonucci, Commissioner of Education
Date: October 1, 1996
Subject: Safe Schools Program for Gay and Lesbian Students Grant Opportunity
Attached you will find a FY 97 Safe Schools Program for Gay and Lesbian Students Pilot Mentor Program Grant opportunity, provided in partnership with the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth.
This small $40,000 grant program will provide state funds to eight to ten school districts to create a mentoring program to help other schools start gay/straight alliances at the high school level...
Interesting. Tell me again how no taxpayer funds are being used to promote the homosexual agenda in the public schools.
Then why are there net nannies or whatever on school computers?
Please consult your own link to the relevant statute of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
2. The term "oral communication" means speech, except such speech as is transmitted over the public air waves by radio or other similar device.
Such as a microphone and loudspeakers?
Your claim that Camenker and Whiteman broke the law just doesn't hold water. It wasn't a private conversation. It was a public seminar.
Here's another link of yours:
The mere fact of availability of professional development credits is not sponsorship.
However, the availability of professional development credits from the Massachusetts Department of Education signals that it was indeed a public event.
And the fact that GLSEN and others don't want the tape distributed proves that they know how explosive this is. They know that parents and other taxpayers will object to exposing their children to this nonsense.
I would think that may be second-best. Best would be home-schooling.
american spirit - you may ber interested in Lively and Abrams' book "The Pink Swastika" - a very well researched and totally fascinating book about the deep connection between homosexuality and the Nazis. Most if not all of it is online at http://www.abidingtruth.com/ Also on that great website are a lot of other materials about the "gay" agenda and how to fight it. I've been reading Lively's stuff for some years and admire him a lot.
Hmm, is it a classified secret?
If nothing wrong took place, why this secrecy? Was it a secret private meeting or a event of public record?
Just "a little over-the top"? So what would be much "over-the-top"? And what criminal penalty would you recommend for those whistle-blowers?
What "madg" stands for? Mad g.?
If they "broke the law," can you show us when and where they were charged and convicted in a criminal court? What fine was levied by the court? Have they been sentenced in any way? If you can't prove these things, then I suggest you refrain from presenting your opinion as a statement of fact.
The current suit is a civil suit. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. It's interesting that the suit was brought by "Boston-based Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders." Here's what they have to say about the case:
(scroll down to near bottom of the page)
"Netherland et al. v. Whiteman et al. (Massachusetts)
GLAD is putting the right-wing on notice that they cannot use intimidation tactics to try to stop vitally important sex education information from getting to young people. In violation of Massachusetts wiretapping and privacy laws, Scott Whiteman, Brian Camenker, and the right-wing organization Parents Rights Coalition publicly distributed a tape recording of a sexuality and HIV/AIDS prevention education workshop conducted in March, 2000 at a conference sponsored by GLSEN. GLAD filed suit in Massachusetts Superior Court on behalf of Julie Netherland, a former employee of the Department of Education, and obtained a temporary restraining order (later converted to a preliminary injunction) to stop the defendants from further distributing the tape recording. After a lengthy discovery period, GLAD filed a motion for summary judgment, which is now pending."
Vitally important sex education information?! Here's what Education Commissioner David P. Driscoll said at the time:
"Faced with the irrefutable evidence of his employees' actions, David Driscoll, commissioner of the Massachusetts Department of Education, admitted Tuesday: "The participation of our staff in conversations with students about explicit issues of sexuality outside the realm of AIDS/HIV prevention was wrong. The workshops were of prurient nature, and not educational, and what we heard suggests that the discussion contributed absolutely nothing to the students' understanding of how to avoid AIDS and HIV."
(Remember M.G.L Chapter 272: Sections 28, 29, and 31?)
From the article:
"The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders did not return calls for comment.
If they have such a strong case against Camenker and Whiteman, why do they refuse to comment?
So does GLSEN:
GLSEN is indeed a child absuer, and it's influence should be fought everywhere.
Anyone who promotes or encourages 'fisting' to teenagers is a child abuser, including GLSEN and those who support it. This is pure evil. You, magd, are willfully blind to evil.
Madg thinks it's fine for people to solicit homosexual sex in public rest rooms, and that the age of consent of 16-18 is fine - and that it's fine for there to be homosexual scoutmasters with other people's 16-18 teenage boys under their authority on overnight camping trips. By defending GLSEN in this disgusting and evil incident, in which young teenagers are taught the particulars of anal intercourse, fisting, anal balls, etc. (i.e. playing with feces), madg has sided against our children. We need to protect our children from such as he. He is dangerous. That which he defends is pure evil.
Thanks for your comments, espoman. I pray that madg repent from the path of evil and corruption and spiritual desolation which he has chosen. I pray for the children who are led onto that path by the likes of madg.