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Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/06/03 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks

CNSNews.com) - Lawyers from a homosexual advocacy group took depositions from a Massachusetts parent this week, almost three years after he first exposed "Fistgate," a state-sponsored workshop in which educators instructed teens in graphic homosexual sex.

The deposition of Brian Camenker, taken Tuesday by lawyers for the Boston-based Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders, is an effort to put parents under financial strain and to discourage others around the country from bringing similar workshops to light, Camenker charged.

"If they are able to be able to beat us in Massachusetts, they can continue to hound any parent who gets in their way," said Camenker, president of the Parents Rights Coalition.

Two Massachusetts Department of Education staffers lost their jobs because of their involvement in the state-funded workshop held at Tufts University in March 2000, called "What They Don't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class." The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network co-sponsored the workshop.

Homosexual advocacy groups have been pursuing lawsuits against Camenker and Scott Whiteman, another parent, for secretly recording, exposing and publicizing the event, in which instructors encouraged children as young as 14 years of age to engage in life-threatening sex acts. One instructor told the students: "Fisting often gets a bad rap."

"Fistgate" soon attracted national prominence. Among others, Sean Hannity discusses the event in his book, Let Freedom Ring, and William Bennett talks about the event in his book, The Broken Hearth . This past week, Alan Keyes made a trip to Boston to speak on behalf of Camenker and Whiteman, as well as rally support for their cause.

Legal defense costs since homosexual advocacy groups first deposed Camenker and Whiteman in the summer of 2000 have reached well over $100,000, Camenker said.

"It has a certain national significance as to what the gays can do to parents who expose the stuff," he added.

The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders did not return calls for comment.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
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To: madg
I have read this thread with considerable interest. Any of my perspectives would not make much sense to you - the resolution of this confrontation between such disparate Weltanschaungen is not amenable to logic/reason. If you would, please just take a second and answer a question for me. I won't burden you further...

Is 'fisting' OK between consenting teenagers (the 16 - 18 y.o. you cite earlier)? Thank you for your reply.
141 posted on 02/09/2003 10:46:28 AM PST by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere)
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To: EdReform
It's time to put a stop to GLSEN's influence in the public schools

GLSEN is indeed a child absuer, and it's influence should be fought everywhere.

143 posted on 02/09/2003 11:44:37 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: madg; esopman
If asked, I would warn anyone of the potential risks... but what consenting parties do behind closed doors is none of my business.

Anyone who promotes or encourages 'fisting' to teenagers is a child abuser, including GLSEN and those who support it. This is pure evil. You, magd, are willfully blind to evil.

144 posted on 02/09/2003 11:47:57 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
You are a hardy soul....presenting truth to magd. Alas, such blindness to evil is ultimately a spiritual phenomenon. Education is of little avail (especially that facsimile current in academia today). I applaud you and pray for magd.
145 posted on 02/09/2003 12:00:46 PM PST by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere)
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To: Antoninus; madg
Should people be arrested for soliciting sex in public rest rooms?

Madg thinks it's fine for people to solicit homosexual sex in public rest rooms, and that the age of consent of 16-18 is fine - and that it's fine for there to be homosexual scoutmasters with other people's 16-18 teenage boys under their authority on overnight camping trips. By defending GLSEN in this disgusting and evil incident, in which young teenagers are taught the particulars of anal intercourse, fisting, anal balls, etc. (i.e. playing with feces), madg has sided against our children. We need to protect our children from such as he. He is dangerous. That which he defends is pure evil.

146 posted on 02/09/2003 12:00:47 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: esopman; madg
Alas, such blindness to evil is ultimately a spiritual phenomenon. Education is of little avail (especially that facsimile current in academia today). I applaud you and pray for magd.

Thanks for your comments, espoman. I pray that madg repent from the path of evil and corruption and spiritual desolation which he has chosen. I pray for the children who are led onto that path by the likes of madg.

147 posted on 02/09/2003 12:03:04 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: kattracks
Who are the backers, bankrolling the poopoo packers?
Stop their dough and these perverts will go.
148 posted on 02/09/2003 12:14:04 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Muslims love Christians and Jews to death)
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To: madg
Is what consenting people do behind closed doors any of your and my business, after they destroy their health in mutually consented perversion and open that closed door and run out demanding that you and me and the government using our money, drop all research on cures for unavoidable diseases and invest the profits from the entire gross National produce into a cure for their avoidable disease?
149 posted on 02/09/2003 12:35:02 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Muslims love Christians and Jews to death-gays want to love our kids to death)
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To: madg
So now,Exposing the unethical is unethical-interesting concept.
150 posted on 02/09/2003 12:49:56 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Muslims love Christians and Jews to death-gays want to love our kids to death)
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To: Tunehead54
The contact link did not work for moi.

I want to find out what the lawsuit states and I want to help support this parent group anyway I can. I might not be able to send much money-but there have to be other ways. I am still furious that thise psycho group of abnormal sexual creeps is sueing a PARENT for what that parent LEARNED in a public symposium. Fisting.....oh geeeeeeeeeeez. Liberal homosexual activists are the filthiest things going....using CHILDREN to spread their dirt. And I mean dirt....as in fecal, poop, crap, etc.

God BLESS the parents undergoing this invasion, this attempt to silence their outrage by forcing them to pay HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars in legal fees (for what, I ask, concern over what children are learning?). We must not let this happen.

153 posted on 02/09/2003 2:16:52 PM PST by Republic (tommy daschle is a WEASEL OF MASS DISTORTION (tractorman)-so truthful, it almost HURTS!)
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To: Republic
You can follow things here and if you wish you can subscribe to their paper.
154 posted on 02/09/2003 2:22:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Republic
Fistgate Archive
155 posted on 02/09/2003 2:25:38 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: madg
Your argument that this was a private event is a lie. Please stop repeating it. One of the teachers was compensated by the state and her participation approved by her boss. Click here for some truth.
156 posted on 02/09/2003 2:32:07 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: kattracks
Expect more of this sort of thing as "reproduction education" in "sex education/health class" becomes "safe sex instruction/diversity education". After all, those homosexual kids don't need to know all of the details of gestation and reproduction if they are repulsed by complimentary genitalia. They'll need some instruction that meets their "special" needs.

Don't forget to teach the high school kids to safely sanitize their whips and S&M/sex toys and to not share such instruments with multiple partners. Some of these sorts of courses actually do tell kids to be careful of the blood that is lost during some rough sex activities. Generally bleeding would indicate that something is already progressing beyond the bounds of "safe" activity but I guess these kids (and their "sex positive" instructors) are still learning.

157 posted on 02/09/2003 3:05:13 PM PST by weegee
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To: madg
Abel stated she was compensated. Thats a fact jack and neither your childish outbursts nor your support of the homofascist men from GLAD is going to change that one bit.

Refute the assertion or continue to bray like a jackass, the choice is yours. Did Abel insist that she was compensated by the state or not?

159 posted on 02/09/2003 3:27:27 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: madg
“We always knew that we were working in an area that in certain places was considered really controversial and we also knew that we were doing cutting edge work and that there are plenty of people that don't support doing work with gay kids. But I think that we flew sort of below the radar screen for a long time and were able to, and had the complete support of our agency. Maybe David Driscoll [Commissioner of Education] didn't always know everything that we did, but certainly our supervisors did," said Abels.

Uh oh!

160 posted on 02/09/2003 3:29:54 PM PST by jwalsh07
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