Skip to comments.Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'
Posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks
CNSNews.com) - Lawyers from a homosexual advocacy group took depositions from a Massachusetts parent this week, almost three years after he first exposed "Fistgate," a state-sponsored workshop in which educators instructed teens in graphic homosexual sex.
The deposition of Brian Camenker, taken Tuesday by lawyers for the Boston-based Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders, is an effort to put parents under financial strain and to discourage others around the country from bringing similar workshops to light, Camenker charged.
"If they are able to be able to beat us in Massachusetts, they can continue to hound any parent who gets in their way," said Camenker, president of the Parents Rights Coalition.
Two Massachusetts Department of Education staffers lost their jobs because of their involvement in the state-funded workshop held at Tufts University in March 2000, called "What They Don't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class." The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network co-sponsored the workshop.
Homosexual advocacy groups have been pursuing lawsuits against Camenker and Scott Whiteman, another parent, for secretly recording, exposing and publicizing the event, in which instructors encouraged children as young as 14 years of age to engage in life-threatening sex acts. One instructor told the students: "Fisting often gets a bad rap."
"Fistgate" soon attracted national prominence. Among others, Sean Hannity discusses the event in his book, Let Freedom Ring, and William Bennett talks about the event in his book, The Broken Hearth . This past week, Alan Keyes made a trip to Boston to speak on behalf of Camenker and Whiteman, as well as rally support for their cause.
Legal defense costs since homosexual advocacy groups first deposed Camenker and Whiteman in the summer of 2000 have reached well over $100,000, Camenker said.
"It has a certain national significance as to what the gays can do to parents who expose the stuff," he added.
The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders did not return calls for comment.
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Your side is a dangerous group bent on intimidation, the suppression of rights and the indoctrination of youth.
By the way, have you guys released the tapes yet? If not, why not?
Note the paragraph by a liberal civil libertarian on the odds of a fair trial im Massachusetts for the politcally incorrect.
"Section 28. Matter harmful to minors, dissemination; possession; defenses."
"Whoever disseminates to a minor any matter harmful to minors, as defined in section thirty-one, knowing it to be harmful to minors, or has in his possession any such matter with the intent to disseminate the same to minors, shall be punished by imprisonment..."
"Section 29. Dissemination or possession of obscene matter; punishment; defense."
"Whoever disseminates any matter which is obscene, knowing it to be obscene, or whoever has in his possession any matter which is obscene, knowing it to be obscene, with the intent to disseminate the same, shall be punished by imprisonment..."
"Section 31. Definitions applicable to secs. 28, 28C, 28D, 28E, 29, 29A, 29B, 30 and 30D."
"'Harmful to minors', matter is harmful to minors if it is obscene or, if taken as a whole, it (1) describes or represents nudity, sexual conduct or sexual excitement, so as to appeal predominantly to the prurient interest of minors; (2) is patently contrary to prevailing standards of adults in the county where the offense was committed as to suitable material for such minors; and (3) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value for minors."
"'Obscene', matter is obscene if taken as a whole it (1) appeals to the prurient interest of the average person applying the contemporary standards of the county where the offense was committed; (2) depicts or describes sexual conduct in a patently offensive way; and (3) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value..."
Since I cited sections 28, 29, and 31 of the law, you are correct when you state "A crime was committed in violation of the law that YOU cite" - Go back to reply 136 and read again what David Driscoll, Commissioner of the Massachusetts Department of Education said:
"The workshops were of prurient nature, and not educational"
And yet the State of Massachusetts does nothing. Except spend millions of tax dollars on GLSEN's GSA's.
"I know that there a Parental Notification laws that vary from state to state regarding a minor having an abortion. My question is, are there any that would require an organization that is offering programs for minors that concern their sexuality to notify the parent(s) first? I would personally throttle any person or organization that attempted to indoctrinate my kids into a Gay or Lesbian lifestyle. Are there any organizations out there that are trying to get laws passed that hold these people accountable for the harm they are causing the youth?
Just look at some of the links below and you will understand my concern..."
I am required to take a certain number of hours of continuing legal education (CLE) classes each year, in order to remain a member in good standing of the state bar and keep my attorney's license. Since it's a professional requirement for our law faculty, the university underwrites all the costs.
My fees for the seminars are paid. Travel, lodging and meals are paid. If I were being paid by the hour, rather than a flat salary, I'd also be paid for the time spent in these seminars. And if I worked for a state university, it would be public tax money paying for all these expenses of my continuing education.
I hope this clears up the matter for you. If Abel claims that she was paid to attend the "Fistgate" seminar, I would say that she's probably telling the truth. And that would provide further support for the contention that it was a public gathering.
Sometimes the truth hurts. Other times, by God, it stings. Doesn't it?
The whole purpose of this 'workshop' was to encourage kids in the exploration of these dangerous, damaging and disgusting activities. When my kid asks about 'fisting,' I will tell him the truth - it's someone putting a fist up someone else's ass - and then I will tell him it's one of the most perverted, disgusting and dangerous acts I can think of. Your 'workshop' fails on the second part. It was evil. You and your ilk are a danger to kids and to that which is good.
It was the adults, who would encourage them to explore such, and who would put a positive gloss on total filth and depravity, who were evil. I never called the kids involved in this evil, as you very well know.
There is no justice here - just a form of evil. We moved our kids out of public school some time ago - for their own protection.
When the highest ranking education official in the second-most pro-homosexual state in the U.S. says that the GLSEN workshops "were of prurient nature, and not educational," you know you the problem is serious. Very serious.
When the DA or AG of the second-most pro-homosexual state in the U.S. remains silent and refuses to investigate the claims of the highest ranking educational official of that state, you know that the homosexual agenda has free run of the state.
"AS I've already mentioned, Swift defunded the Safe Schools program last year while trying to balance the budget. Do try to keep up."
Well it's about time they stop using taxpayer money to fund GLSEN's GSA's. But that doesn't change fact that state funding of GSA's had gone on for years, as documented here
"... Then why aren't you complaining about Camenker, Whiteman, and Pawlick of the MassNews, printing off over 200,000 copies of their VERY sexually explicit article... and mailing it out to unsuspecting families and schools across the State?"
So you finally admit that the the workshop contained " VERY sexually explicit" material. The material for their article came directly from the material presented at the workshop. Perhaps you'd be willing to cite a credible source for your claim of this mass-mailing. If you do, please spare us the links to the Queer Resource Directory (qrd.com).
"What's worse... hearing about "fisting" at a private SEX AND SEXUALITY workshop... or having your kids fetch the mail... from YOUR OWN mailbox... and drop FISTING and LICKING and RUBBING and ANAL BALLS right onto your breakfast table?"
Goodness, madg! Was that good for you?! If homosexuals weren't exposing kids to this stuff in workshops and schools, there'd be no problems and no reason to document and report it.
(I have be gone for the next three hours - back later)
I'm sure you love them. Fight this. Do not be afraid. For your own and others.
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