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Run Your Own Country (VANITY of VANITIES - it's a game)
Nation States - Jennifer Government ^ | today | Frapster

Posted on 02/07/2003 11:20:01 AM PST by Frapster

A couple of months ago a friend of mine introduced me to a site called NationStates. The creator of the site built this 'game' he created to promote his book. It's not my intention to promote the book but instead to invite other fellow freepers to join me in creating a nation and moving it to the 'Free Republic' region. I have looked to see if a 'Free Republic' already exists but I do not see one.

Simply creation a nation and then once your nation is created you can then change the region you start out in. Once your nation is created and you're in the 'Free Republic' region you're all set.

Once your country is created you'll be presented with 'issues'. As you make your decisions your country's issues will effect the status of your countrie's civil rights, economy and political freedoms. This is what my country looks like. It's a brand new country and I'm the only one in 'Free Republic' at the moment - but join right in.

You can customize your country's flag, it's motto and it's currency. There's no way to wage war and there's limited number of issues. So if you change your settings to display 2 issues per day you'll run through your issues pretty quickly. You have the potential to see the same issue more than once pretty quickly but it will take a little while (a week or two) to run through them all.

The site can load fairly slowly sometimes. When I created Frapsterland it took forever to complete the creation process but it finally did.

You also have the opportunity to join the United Nations and represent Free Republic as the UN Delegate provided you get enough votes.

The reality is this is a huge waste of time but it's kind of fun to see how people's countries evolve. Give it a try.

click here


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: capitalism; democracy; dictatorsip; fun; game; government; nation; socialism; states; unitednations
I did a search and couldn't find this anywhere and I don't believe we've already set up a 'region' yet - so be sure and join the 'Free Republic' region once you're in. If there's already a region set up - please point me to it. Thanks!
1 posted on 02/07/2003 11:20:01 AM PST by Frapster
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To: Frapster
a 'waste your time' bump.
2 posted on 02/07/2003 11:23:49 AM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Frapster
an 'are we hosing their servers?' bump
3 posted on 02/07/2003 11:30:14 AM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Frapster
I tried this out awhile back. Between the socialist thinking behind the events and the possible consequences of your actions, and the slowness of the game, it was not worth the time. Last I looked, I was a Capitalist's Paradise, or some such. Giving people choices did not seem to give them civil rights. Only if I tried to be Socialist did it seem to increase rights.
4 posted on 02/07/2003 11:34:26 AM PST by Ingtar
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To: Frapster
I tried this out awhile back. Between the socialist thinking behind the events and the possible consequences of your actions, and the slowness of the game, it was not worth the time. Last I looked, I was a Capitalist's Paradise, or some such. Giving people choices did not seem to give them civil rights. Only if I tried to be Socialist did it seem to increase rights.
5 posted on 02/07/2003 11:34:47 AM PST by Ingtar
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To: Ingtar
I agree - the game definitely has a left-leaning political bias on the impact of the issues upon your country. For example - on my other country my economy is 'frightening' while I have 'Few' civil rights. In my country description it say I have a major crime problem.

The servers are still a little slow but much faster than they were a month or so ago.

6 posted on 02/07/2003 11:36:51 AM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Frapster
Why does this site have to go ruin it's credibility in my eyes and promote anything about the United Nations?
7 posted on 02/07/2003 11:56:07 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
lol - you don't have to participate in the UN.
8 posted on 02/07/2003 12:06:15 PM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Frapster
We now have 3 countries in the Region of Free Republic.

Here's the description of my country:

The Holy Empire of Frapsterland
"Shhh... be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits."

UN Category: Conservative Democracy
Civil Rights: Rare
Economy: Good
Political Freedoms: Superb

Location: Free Republic
The Holy Empire of Frapsterland is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its strong anti-business politics. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million are known throughout the region for their efficiency and work ethic, as well as their general suspicion of leisure.

The enormous, moralistic government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Religion & Spirituality, and Defence. The average income tax rate is 28%. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Furniture Restoration.

Crime is a problem. Frapsterland's national animal is the wabbit, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the bobble.

9 posted on 02/07/2003 12:23:57 PM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Frapster
Four

The Federation of Lonegunmen

10 posted on 02/07/2003 12:36:22 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: Frapster
read later
11 posted on 02/07/2003 12:37:22 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Frapster
OK I will join your alliance just as long as our goals coincide. (This is a political reality that few countries will admit to your face.) BTW I just had my first issue on the crime rate. Where is the "arm all citizens" option?

The Free Republic of Harmless Teddy Bearsa is a tiny, economically powerful nation, notable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working population of 5 million are either ruled by a small, efficient government or a conglomerate of multinational corporations; it's difficult to tell which.
The small government is mainly concerned with Law & Order, although Commerce and Education are on the agenda. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 6%. A substantial private sector is dominated by the Door-to-door Insurance Sales industry.
Crime is a problem. Harmless Teddy Bearsa's national animal is the teddy bear, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the brun.

12 posted on 02/07/2003 12:40:06 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Operation Snuggles Freedom)
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To: Frapster
The text of the 'game' are very leftist leaning. It says that crime is a problem, but the government devotes most of its attention on Law & Order... a contradiction.

I bet that if I had chosen a high social welfare, then crime would not be a problem. Seems the author of the game needs to go read some books about the Depression era... no social welfare, but crime was not high either.

13 posted on 02/07/2003 12:40:53 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: Frapster; RikaStrom; Slip18; xsmommy; Constitution Day; Gabz; Enterprise; one_particular_harbour; ..
The Republic of Palm is now a going concern.

We are the second country in the Free Republic Group. Come one, come all. We can have some fun here.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

14 posted on 02/07/2003 12:50:02 PM PST by LonePalm (The Son of a Son of a Sailor.)
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To: Frapster
Link

The Free Republic of Harmless Teddy Bearsa

15 posted on 02/07/2003 12:54:15 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Operation Snuggles Freedom)
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To: Frapster
Bump for later...
16 posted on 02/07/2003 12:56:10 PM PST by mhking ("The home team Iraqis have won the toss and elected to receive...")
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To: Frapster
Hey, this can be fun!

The Dominion of Undead Gods is a tiny, pleasant nation, renowned for its compulsory military service. Its compassionate, cynical population of 5 million are kept under strict control by the oppressive government, which measures its success by the nation's GDP and refers to individual citizens as "human resources."

The small, corrupt, moralistic government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Defence, and Commerce. The average income tax rate is 15%, but much higher for the wealthy. A robust private sector is led by the Beef-Based Agriculture, Book Publishing, and Gambling industries.

Crime -- especially youth-related -- is relatively low, thanks to a well-funded police force. Undead Gods's national animal is the skeleton and its currency is the soul.

17 posted on 02/07/2003 1:01:19 PM PST by Lichgod
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To: Lichgod
Other fun stuff about the Dominion of the Undead Gods

UN Category: Iron Fist Consumerists

Civil Rights: Unheard Of

Economy: Good

Political Freedoms: Outlawed

18 posted on 02/07/2003 1:15:32 PM PST by Lichgod
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To: Lichgod
My first issue: I get to bulldoze a rainforest to dig up uranium to make nukes! hehehe
19 posted on 02/07/2003 1:16:42 PM PST by Lichgod
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To: Frapster
I have been there for awhile and am already a member of the UN (gasp)

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=evieisle
20 posted on 02/07/2003 1:21:12 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Joined UN to keep my enemies closer!)
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To: Frapster
Come visit beautiful Stoogevania, where everyone's a Stooge!

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=stoogevania
21 posted on 02/07/2003 1:28:56 PM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Scotty Moore when we need him most?)
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To: LonePalm
I'm there! Now, should I resign as a member of the UN?
22 posted on 02/07/2003 1:59:44 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Joined UN to keep my enemies closer!)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
I vote that we let EvieIsle stay in the UN to keep an eye on them.

(Joined UN to keep my enemies closer!)

We seem to think alike.

23 posted on 02/07/2003 2:09:25 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Operation Snuggles Freedom)
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To: Frohickey
I agree - the text is very left leaning. I just assume that my country is like the US. While the 'world' looks in and thinks 'wow - everyone must be so unhappy there' I smugly sit by and allow my people to be, in reality, happy. ;-)
24 posted on 02/07/2003 2:12:14 PM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Lichgod
I can't remember if there were 3 positions to take on that issue or not...if I remember correctly, there were. I chose the middle issue and now my little island is being deforested.

The game really is left-leaning but I'm wondering whether we could accomplish anything by using the UN.
25 posted on 02/07/2003 2:17:56 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Joined UN to keep my enemies closer!)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
This is great! I'm glad to see so many folks joining in. You know - I don't know how to vote for a UN delegate. Do I have to be in the UN to cast a vote? As far as I'm concerned I'll cast my vote for you (if I can) since you were first in for our region!
26 posted on 02/07/2003 2:26:12 PM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
Naaa. don't resign unless you want to. I believe the impact of UN resolutions is only on those who are members. I could be wrong.
27 posted on 02/07/2003 2:27:12 PM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
I don't know if we can affect change in the UN or not. There are thousands of nations so we'd have to have a pretty significant number of Freepers join to make that happen.
28 posted on 02/07/2003 2:31:10 PM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Frapster
I just posted on our Nations.net board that I'm not sure whether the countries have to be a member of the UN in order to elect a delegate or not.

Why would you want to poke me anyway? :)
29 posted on 02/07/2003 2:31:15 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Joined UN to keep my enemies closer!)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
*poke poke poke* I don't know - just seemed like something to do. ;-) I'll have to join the UN and see what's up.
30 posted on 02/07/2003 2:32:28 PM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
You are correct, three options on this issue.

The Issue: Prospecting company Nukes4U has uncovered a large uranium deposit in Undead Gods's south-west.

The Debate: "This is terrific find!" claims Nukes4U CEO Anne-Marie Trax. "It will provide an enormous stimulus to our economy and create thousands of new jobs. It's win-win! All we need from the government is permission to bulldoze the rainforest that's on top of the deposit."

This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.

"You've got to be kidding," says Green politician Hack Thiesen. "This rainforest is thousands of years old! This country needs more environmental protection, not less. And to destroy the environment in order to mine uranium that then goes into nuclear bombs--well, that really sticks in my craw." [Accept]

"There's no need for an either-or decision," says the government's Minister for Mining, Clear-Felling, and the Environment. "We can preserve most of the rainforest and allow mining of a small part. After all, think of all the good that the money from this uranium deposit can bring to Undead Gods." [Accept]

The Government Position: The government has indicated its intention to follow the recommendations of Option 1.

Here is my nation

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=undead_gods

31 posted on 02/07/2003 2:53:34 PM PST by Lichgod
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To: Lichgod
I thought there were 3 choices! It will be interesting to see what happens in your country with you choosing the more 'radical' of the three.
32 posted on 02/07/2003 2:59:02 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Joined UN to keep my enemies closer!)
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To: Lichgod
I've been there for a while. I play WWIIOnline and a bunch of us created our own location.

Whats strange is I never fund any of those socialist programs yet it shows that I do. I did fund education a while back though. Maybe thats where it came from.

Heres mine:

The Dictatorship of Widgeo "Piss us off and we will stomp on your butt."

UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Average Economy: Very Strong Political Freedoms: Good

Location: Cornered Rat Off Topica

The Dictatorship of Widgeo is a enormous, devout nation, remarkable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working population of 302 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often. There is no government in the normal sense the word; however, a small group of community-minded individuals juggles the competing demands of Education, Law & Order, and Defence. Income tax is unheard of. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Book Publishing, Cheese Exports, and Information Technology industries. The alarmingly racist TV show 'Bigtopians Say the Darndest Things' is a hit, a large-scale revitalization of the education system is underway, the tenet of free speech is held dear, and nudity is frowned upon. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Widgeo's national animal is the elephant, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the dollar.

33 posted on 02/07/2003 3:14:24 PM PST by ParityErr
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To: Frapster
Hey guys, we are all at the Alliance of FReepers. About 25 of us.

I'm Martellus.

34 posted on 02/07/2003 6:46:48 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: LonePalm
Do you have a link to your Republic?
35 posted on 02/07/2003 7:13:28 PM PST by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
Your wish is my command lovely Dixie.

The Republic of Palm

What else would I call it?

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

36 posted on 02/07/2003 7:41:11 PM PST by LonePalm (Margaritas at the midnight buffet.)
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To: All
Do we want to move to the Alliance of Freepers?
37 posted on 02/07/2003 8:05:01 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Joined UN to keep my enemies closer!)
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To: T. P. Pole
Thanks for the info! I suggest that everyone who joined Free Republic move over there! I'll post it to our region and join you.
38 posted on 02/07/2003 8:34:03 PM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Frapster
I've moved too!
39 posted on 02/07/2003 8:51:27 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Joined UN to keep my enemies closer!)
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To: Frapster
I'm part of the FReeper Alliance. The problem with the game, aside from it's leftist stance, is that I keep getting the same issues over and over. It's just gotten boring!
40 posted on 02/07/2003 9:11:37 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Frapster
I invite you all to visit beatiful Despotania. But don't go sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.


The Empire of Despotania is a tiny, safe nation, renowned for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 5 million are ruled without fear or favor by a psychotic dictator, who outlaws just about everything and refers to the populace as "my little playthings."

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, moralistic, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is effectively ruled by the Department of Law & Order, with areas such as Social Welfare and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 53%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Arms Manufacturing.

Crime -- especially youth-related -- is well under control, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Despotania's national animal is the highly trained rottweiller, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the Panopticon.

41 posted on 02/07/2003 9:29:16 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: Dianna
Yep - the only thing that keeps me playing is my addictive tendencies. lol For those who are new - don't set it to give you more than 1 issue per day or you'll run out too fast.
42 posted on 02/07/2003 10:44:58 PM PST by Frapster (eater of gristle, drinker of vanilla coke)
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To: Frapster
For those who are new - don't set it to give you more than 1 issue per day or you'll run out too fast.

Alas, the joys of being right in a wrong world.

Got to admire The Queendom of Hillary. The leader there has figured out a way to play the game and get the scores that the author wants.

43 posted on 02/08/2003 6:51:32 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: Frapster
At last count we had over 50 countries who have joined together to form the Alliance of Freepers. Thanks to those who started this and thanks to those who have joined. It's a nice distraction from all that's going on. Dang my heart is heavy these days.
44 posted on 02/10/2003 1:28:56 PM PST by Frapster (My grief is real.)
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