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DOG SHOW BREEDS CONTEMPT
NY Post ^ | February 11, 2003 | Andrea Peyser

Posted on 02/11/2003 7:37:34 AM PST by NYer

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:12:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

No sooner had I walked backstage at Madison Square Garden yesterday when I was brushed aside by a beautifully groomed, purebred bitch who possessed the manners of a mongrel.

She was a dog owner.

"A- -hole!" the high-strung biped ranted, just loud enough to drive a sensitive cocker spaniel to the kibble.


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Ch Darbydale's All Rise Pouchcove Newfoundland - Winner of the Working Group


1 posted on 02/11/2003 7:37:34 AM PST by NYer
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To: NYer

Moderately funny movie.

2 posted on 02/11/2003 7:42:27 AM PST by martin_fierro (FLIP SPICELAND, WHERE ARE YOU?)
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To: NYer
Definitely a contact sport.
3 posted on 02/11/2003 7:43:52 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: NYer
I've never seen a Newfie that well groomed in my life.

All the ones I know look like a collection of knitting mistakes.

Pretty rarified heights up there at Westminster.

4 posted on 02/11/2003 7:45:21 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . my dog says no thanks, she's a REAL working dog.)
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To: NYer
Beautiful animal. I head a Kerry Blue terrier won the terrier class. Do you know which dogs won the other two classes judged last night? I think they were non-sporting and maybe toy group.
5 posted on 02/11/2003 7:46:00 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: NYer
I'm rooting for the Newfie. Well, unless the Lab wins the Sporting Group.

Although, the Pekinese did look good. And that poodle (it's called a field cut) was okay.
6 posted on 02/11/2003 7:47:42 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: NYer
Carlotta Dennie of Staten Island took a bite of a hot dog, then held up her face to share a bite with her little papillon, Maverick. He lapped lustily at her mouth.

Someone needs to tell these "people" that they're just DOGS!!!
7 posted on 02/11/2003 7:48:11 AM PST by Valin (Age and Deceit, beat youth and skill)
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To: NYer
Did the collie place?
8 posted on 02/11/2003 7:48:13 AM PST by SarahW
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To: Trust but Verify
Working: Newfoundland

Toy: Pekinese

Non-Sporting: Standard Poodle
9 posted on 02/11/2003 7:48:48 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: NYer
Did the collies place? (rough or smooth)
10 posted on 02/11/2003 7:48:50 AM PST by SarahW
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To: NYer
According to Dave Letterman, The French Poodle and German Shepherd withdrew from the competition...
11 posted on 02/11/2003 7:48:56 AM PST by saluki_in_ohio
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To: SarahW
Did the collie place?

Shepherding Group is tonight. Smooth or rough Collie?
12 posted on 02/11/2003 7:49:46 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona
Yikes! Standard poodle. The way they 'pouf' them and shave them for show leaves me cold. If I were the dog, I'd feel naked.
13 posted on 02/11/2003 7:51:41 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Trust but Verify
I like Kerry Blue terriers, in fact I like most terriers. But why does it seem that most of the show winners are either Kerry Blue terriers, Poodles, or Russian Wolf Hounds? A bunch of dog raciests? Or just a little gay?
14 posted on 02/11/2003 7:55:13 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: Desdemona
I still forget the Herding group is seperate now!
Hope it's a nice rough collie this year.
15 posted on 02/11/2003 7:55:25 AM PST by SarahW
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To: Trust but Verify
Standard poodle. The way they 'pouf' them and shave them for show leaves me cold. If I were the dog, I'd feel naked.

Everbody says that. The cut used for show is the field cut. Poodles were developed as water retreivers. They retrieved birds and water fowl. That cut is designed to keep the joints warm in cold water.

They're not Labs, developed for water retrieving, but fishing nets not game, where part of the purpose of the coast was for the water to just cascade off.
16 posted on 02/11/2003 7:55:30 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: martin_fierro
Moderately funny movie.

I disagree. I thought it was a riot.

17 posted on 02/11/2003 7:57:10 AM PST by trad_anglican
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To: NYer
Unfortunately, many dog breeds in these shows are freaks bred for appearances rather than for the qualities that made dogs man's best friend. For instance, what can you do with the Cocker Spaniels in these shows besides show them? I'll take a dog without the right papers over a mutant with a wierd haircut any day.
18 posted on 02/11/2003 7:57:21 AM PST by THE Aardvark
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To: SarahW
I still forget the Herding group is seperate now!

Uh...when did they separate and from what? As far as I know Sheperding/Herding have always been separate.
19 posted on 02/11/2003 7:57:27 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: NYer
ROTFLMAO!!! I know Carlotta. Is she in for a ribbing (evil grin).
20 posted on 02/11/2003 7:58:55 AM PST by Darnright (My dog takes food from my fingers, NOT my mouth. Yuck.)
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To: THE Aardvark
For instance, what can you do with the Cocker Spaniels in these shows besides show them?

Cockers are field dogs. Most of them also have field champion finishes.

Toys, on the other hand....
21 posted on 02/11/2003 8:00:03 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: trad_anglican; Desdemona
Do you have dog breeders in your families? I do; "Best in Show" was spot-on.

Most of the people I've met at dog shows are more or less normal, but the incidence of nuts, fruits, and flakes seems a bit higher than in the population at large.

22 posted on 02/11/2003 8:01:50 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: NYer
The Dread Boston Salty SCOFFS at all these nelly dogs!
23 posted on 02/11/2003 8:03:02 AM PST by Xenalyte
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To: Darnright
I agree you shouldn't share food mouth to mouth with your dog.

Might give the dog some germs. :D :D :D

My dog eats DOG food only, on the recommendation of our vet. She's fit and sleek and happy (of course Labs are ALWAYS hungry, so I get the "poor pitiful starving me" look at lot). She doesn't hunt (yet), but she works hard at her agility training and keeping the back yard squirrel free.


24 posted on 02/11/2003 8:05:01 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . and harassing the cats - but they harass her right back.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Do you have dog breeders in your families? I do; "Best in Show" was spot-on.

No, but I know my fair share. Bloodhounds, German Shorthairs, cockers, Bichon Frisse, among others. Yeah, some of them are a little nutty. My great-grandfather kept hounds, but they were true working dogs.

Then there's the yellow lab who rules my house.
25 posted on 02/11/2003 8:05:40 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: ArrogantBustard
You think the DOG show people are nutty, you ought to try CAT shows.

I'd say at least 50 percent of the folks there are a few bricks shy of a load. And I WAS one of 'em for about 10 years.

26 posted on 02/11/2003 8:06:33 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . it was fun for awhile, and the cats did enjoy it. Siamese cannot have too much attention.)
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To: THE Aardvark
As a border collie owner and enthusiast, I followed the lawsuit that the ABCA (American Border Collie Assoc.) filed against the AKC to keep the border collie OUT of the breed standards of the AKC. The idea being that the Border Collie is a working dog, and the most important trait is it's ability to herd livestock. The ABCA didn't want to water down the working charecteristics of the breed in order to maintain some physical attributes that a bunch of dog snobs came up with. The suit was settled, but to this day, anyone who shows border collies in any AKC events are pariahs of the border collie world. Herding ability is paramount for the breed, therefore, no matter what the dog looks like, it is judged solely on it's abilities.
27 posted on 02/11/2003 8:08:23 AM PST by Space Wrangler (Living on Cloud 8.........looking to move up)
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To: AnAmericanMother
All vets recommend that dogs only eat dog food. It keeps them to breed standard.

Mine gets baby carrots. The vet said within reason it's fine.

28 posted on 02/11/2003 8:08:31 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: Valin
Sometimes dogs are more than dogs. They are your non-judgemental best friends. I am not a dog person, I had a cat who graced me with 20 years. He stuck around until my daughter was born and then went to his reward. He was there to dry my tears and cuddle when the world got nasty. One of my prized pictures is my baby sleeping on my kitty.
I do feel it is bad when people make animals out to be people. It is an insult to the animal. Dogs want to be dogs and cats want to be cats. And when we expose other people to our "babies" they see them as animals. It causes problems. Too many animal owners are just plain freaky about this. If you choose your animal over your human child, some nice lithium would help you.
29 posted on 02/11/2003 8:10:11 AM PST by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004)
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To: Desdemona
One of my boxers can only eat diet dog food. If he eats regular dog food he gets upto about 95 pounds! Diet food keeps his weight down to about 75 pounds.

My other boxer can eat constatnly and never go above 55 pounds.

30 posted on 02/11/2003 8:14:12 AM PST by Phantom Lord (No Remorse)
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To: NYer
NYC's Westminister Kennel Club show each February is the grand-dam of dog shows. There's a lot at stake, and contestants have travelled a long road to get there ... so their owners, or handlers, can be a little testy if things aren't going their way. I've attended Westminister, not as a participant, several times ... it's worth doing at least once just to get the flavor. Now I watch it on TV ... which brings up a question ... when does the terrier group show?
31 posted on 02/11/2003 8:14:14 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: NYer

Vestmeeenster....Ohhhhh Yeeeeessss!

Look at that beeetch....!

I keeeed, I keeeed!

32 posted on 02/11/2003 8:15:22 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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To: netmilsmom
I agree with you...except my dog thinks she is a human. Got her from the pound before she even had teeth. We call her "Princess" even though that isn't her name. But she can find the softest spot in the house to lay down every time. Even if it is just one blanket or towel thicker than what you are on. I always think of the Princess and the Pea with her. She eats dog food though.
33 posted on 02/11/2003 8:16:48 AM PST by TXBubba
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To: AnAmericanMother
What a sweet Lab! They're wonderful dogs. Dog show people are a competitive bunch, that's for sure. They can be downright rude and nasty, so much that the AKC has had to institute "bench show hearings" for the catfights that occasionally break out.

You wouldn't BELIEVE what some of the nastier ones let their dogs do to motel rooms. The AKC will fine them and suspend them in a heartbeat for cr*p like that.
34 posted on 02/11/2003 8:17:01 AM PST by Darnright (My dog takes food from my fingers, NOT my mouth. Yuck.)
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To: netmilsmom
Cat person myself (low maintaince)
I had two that allowed me the pleasure of providing them with shelter. And for this I could(on special occasions only)pet them.
Cats don't act like they own the world...THEY DO!
35 posted on 02/11/2003 8:17:14 AM PST by Valin (Age and Deceit, beat youth and skill)
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To: BluH2o
... when does the terrier group show?

Last night. The Kerry Blue "Mick" won.
36 posted on 02/11/2003 8:17:20 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: BluH2o
Terrier group showed last night. Mick (the kerry blue) won as expected. I hope there is at least one upset tonight. Other than the newfoundland, I think every group winner was highly favored.
37 posted on 02/11/2003 8:18:31 AM PST by CoolChange
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To: Valin
"Someone needs to tell these "people" that they're just DOGS!!!"

LOL Well, there are people who hate dogs, there are people who love dogs, then there are "dog people".

38 posted on 02/11/2003 8:21:01 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: Desdemona
I won't say that my dog NEVER gets any human food - she's very enterprising and tireless.

My dog is definitely underweight by the AKC standard. I think it says Lab bitches should be 21 1/2 to 23 1/2 inches tall and 55-70 pounds. My girl is exactly 21 1/2 inches at the shoulder but only weighs 45 pounds.

She is on the thin side but incredibly powerful and fast - she can easily jump as high as my head and outruns every dog around except the three whippets that live down the street. When they're running together in the big field nearby, she keeps up with them until they hit top gear. Then they just walk away from her, and she looks highly puzzled!

Most Labradors I see are grossly overweight, huffing and puffing and rolling when they run. She can't understand why they won't play with her at her speed - and I do hate to see a fat dog.

39 posted on 02/11/2003 8:21:29 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . owner of the Amazing Levitating Labrador)
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To: Desdemona
Uh...when did they separate and from what? As far as I know Sheperding/Herding have always been separate.

Last night they mentioned that when Westminster began, there were only two groups -- sporting and non-sporting. Gradually the groups splintered until now we have seven. I've been watching the Westminster for maybe 15 years and I have never seen anything other than seven groupings (IIRC), so these splits are apparently not so recent.

40 posted on 02/11/2003 8:22:03 AM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: Space Wrangler
If Border Collies or Shetland Sheep Dogs owned all humans then the humans would never want to be owned by any other breed. :-)
41 posted on 02/11/2003 8:22:07 AM PST by PatriotGames (AOOGHA AOOGHA CLEAR THE BRIDGE! DIVE! DIVE!)
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To: trad_anglican; martin_fierro
I disagree. I thought it was a riot.

So did I!

The woman on the NY Times commercials (you know, "the only thing better than doing the crossword is actually finishing) reminds me of the Parker Posey character.

42 posted on 02/11/2003 8:25:41 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: TXBubba
What kind of dog is Princess??
I have less of a problem with a dog that thinks they are human than a human who wants them to be. My sister would set a place at the table for her dog. YUCK!
My cat chased golf balls from the putt return that my dad used. My dad would putt the ball down a long hallway that crossed like a 't' at the top of our steps. My cat would sit on the top step with his ears back. He would let the ball go down the hall, then when the machine would pop it back, he would jump up and grab the ball. My dad would cuss, but did it for hours. My cat had him trained well.
They are together in heaven doing it now.....
43 posted on 02/11/2003 8:26:35 AM PST by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004)
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To: AnAmericanMother
SHe'd definitely underweight. Mine is 65-70 pounds and has a hypo-thyroid condition which is common in labs and coupled with lack of exercise is usually what causes them to gain weight.
44 posted on 02/11/2003 8:27:21 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: CoolChange; Desdemona
Terrier group showed last night.

Oops ... missed it! Thanks for the response. Do you recall if a Bull Terrier placed in group?

45 posted on 02/11/2003 8:27:37 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Darnright
She's a happy, happy dog. I'm glad we chose a Lab.

First dog I ever had - was always a cat person, and for awhile in the most serious way. But I've really enjoyed this little girl. I've made a lot of training mistakes, but she forgives them all. She loves people, loves other dogs . . . just a little bit too full of puppy enthusiasm at the moment (she's exhausting!) Hence the agility, to give her something constructive to do.

46 posted on 02/11/2003 8:28:05 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . owner of the Amazing Levitating Labrador)
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To: THE Aardvark
For instance, what can you do with the Cocker Spaniels in these shows besides show them?

We saw a couple running in novice agility trials. Their floppy little ears would fly up like wings every time they jumped. The crowed aaahed over how cute it was.

47 posted on 02/11/2003 8:29:00 AM PST by Lil'freeper (I amar prestar aen)
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To: PatriotGames
True. My border collie is as smart as a whip, and I swear that dog has ESP. She knows what I'm going to do even before I can make the conscious decision to do it. When tossing the frisbee, she knows which direction to run without ever giving a 'lookback'(although that may have more to do with hearing). Incredibly smart and well-mannered dogs IF you give them the attention and exercise they need. My BC is bar none the best dog I have ever owned, or even known in my life.
48 posted on 02/11/2003 8:29:02 AM PST by Space Wrangler (Living on Cloud 8.........looking to move up)
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To: saluki_in_ohio
According to Dave Letterman, The French Poodle and German Shepherd withdrew from the competition...


LOL!!!!
I always wanted a saluki. The first time I saw one I thought someone had shaved an Afganhound. It was a feathered one. What kind do you have?
49 posted on 02/11/2003 8:29:19 AM PST by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004)
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To: BluH2o
I don't think so. I don't remember second but smooth coated fox terrier took 3rd and wire fox was 4th. My eye was on the Jack Russell since that's what lives at my house (she refuses to admit that we own her and not the other way around).
50 posted on 02/11/2003 8:30:36 AM PST by CoolChange
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