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(Canadian PM) Chrétien tells U.S. not to go it alone
CBC News ^ | 2.13.03

Posted on 02/13/2003 8:51:03 PM PST by mhking


Chrétien tells U.S. not to go it alone

Last Updated Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:16:11


PM Jean Chrétien in Chicago

CHICAGO - Prime Minister Jean Chrétien made a major foreign policy speech in Chicago on Thursday evening, and he used the occasion to tell the United States that when it comes to dealing with Iraq it is better served "by acting through the United Nations."

The speech before the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations came just hours before chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix is scheduled to deliver another report to the UN Security Council.

Chrétien took pains to outline the long and close ties between the two countries before moving on to the subject of a possible war with Iraq.

Chrétien appeared to be moving Canada closer to the views of several European nations that have been asking the United States to give the UN weapons inspectors more time. "Today's United Nations needs a committed United States, and I would argue that the world needs an effective United Nations," he said.

The prime minister told his American audience that in spite of U.S. frustration with the UN "the long-term interests of the United States will be better served by acting through the United Nations, than by acting alone."

Acting without international support, said Chrétien, could make any war with Iraq a war of East versus West, or the strong versus the weak.

"It is imperative to avoid the perception of a 'clash of civilizations.' Maximum use of the United Nations will minimize that risk."

Chrétien said decisions made now will have "profound consequences for the future."

The Canadian government has been under pressure to make a firm decision on whether it will go to war alongside its long-time allies, the U.S. and Britain. Chrétien's speech did not commit Canada one way or the other, but it appears to put Ottawa on the side of those nations urging caution and a second UN resolution.

Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham says the government sees problems ahead if the U.S. pushes ahead on its own. "I see a destabilized Middle East. I see problems in Indonesia, in India, in Pakistan. These problems might happen even if there is a UN authorized resolution," Graham said earlier in the day in Ottawa.

Deputy Prime Minister John Manley was also clear that Canada will not be pushed into taking sides until after the UN inspectors deliver their report. "It's very hard for us to say definitively this is what Canada's view is going to be when we don't have his (Blix's) report, and I would defend our right to be unclear about it until we've got the facts."

For the Opposition, the question is still whether the government intends to join the U.S. in any military operation in Iraq. "Is it engaged in the Iraq crisis, and if so, how?" asked Canadian Alliance Leader Stephen Harper.


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1 posted on 02/13/2003 8:51:03 PM PST by mhking
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To: mhking
We're not. Of course Cretin only counts those countries that speak French.
2 posted on 02/13/2003 8:53:47 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: mhking
Wonder what part of 40 he dosen't understand.

He is just a transflanted frog, maybe he should the De Gaulle to patrol his waters with their aircraft.

3 posted on 02/13/2003 8:53:49 PM PST by dts32041 (Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with a "4".)
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To: mhking
Hey Marshmellow Man!:

We're not going alone!!!!

Repeat till you have a heart attack: WE'RE NOT GOING ALONE!!!

4 posted on 02/13/2003 8:54:16 PM PST by zarf (©2003 All Rights Preserved in a White Wine Sauce with Shallots)
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To: mhking
Why isn't he asking the UN to get on board and actually consider the threat that Iraq represents?

That cartoon had it right, where a mushroom clowd looms over Paris and the French politician says "that does it, now we send 4x as many inspectors!"

Idiots in Europe and Canada haven't had their 9/11s yet, and when they do I hope they don't turn to us for help...

5 posted on 02/13/2003 8:54:23 PM PST by EaglesUpForever (boycott French and German products)
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To: mhking
The Canadian PM would do well to tighten the rules who can claim asylum in their country and keep their nose out of what we plan to do. Wonder how many Al Qaeda have come across the Canadian border?

It was a given the Canadian prime minister was not going to be on our side!
6 posted on 02/13/2003 8:55:45 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: mhking
"It is imperative to avoid the perception of a 'clash of civilizations.'

Why?

7 posted on 02/13/2003 8:56:17 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: zarf
Notice how those few standing on the sideliens, like Canada and France, tend to assume that if they are not with us we are alone? The arrogance is astounding ... well, not from the Frogs, but ...
8 posted on 02/13/2003 9:01:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: mhking
Message to Chretin:

Lead, follow, or GET OUT OF THE WAY.
9 posted on 02/13/2003 9:05:42 PM PST by WOSG
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To: Paleo Conservative
Cretin est un putain.
10 posted on 02/13/2003 9:08:17 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: mhking
Chrétien tells U.S. not to go it alone

Translation...You need France and Germany.
11 posted on 02/13/2003 9:08:39 PM PST by Valin (Age and Deceit, beat youth and skill)
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To: mhking
the United States that when it comes to dealing with Iraq it is better served "by acting through the United Nations."

That is certainly true provided the UN acts, but if the alternative is not acting at all, then Cretian is well cretian. And I suspect he favors no action, and is a cretian, or more accurately put, a chap that won't act until he is punched, and then will think about it.

12 posted on 02/13/2003 9:10:34 PM PST by Torie
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To: mhking
We can talk about this after this effeminate socialist suck-weasel stops allowing terrorists across our border.
14 posted on 02/13/2003 9:15:05 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: mhking
RE: Prime Minister Jean Chrétien made a major foreign policy speech in Chicago on Thursday evening, and he used the occasion to tell the United States that when it comes to dealing with Iraq it is better served "by acting through the United Nations."

Oh really? Seems to me like the UN has been ignored for that past 12+ years or so.

Opps, sorry. He's French right?

15 posted on 02/13/2003 9:16:03 PM PST by The Toad
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To: sheik yerbouty
How do you say stupid bastard in French?
16 posted on 02/13/2003 9:20:55 PM PST by ffusco (sempre ragione)
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To: All
Hey, Chretian, you cretin....we are NOT acting ALONE...

WHO has joined the ALLIES FOR LIBERTY & FREEDOM?

THESE ARE the 25 ALLIES for IRAQI people’s (women & children included) FREEDOM

U.S., Britian, Australia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Italy, Portugal, Turkey, Lithuania

Slovakia, Denmark, Czech Republic, Spain, Quatar, Jordan, Albania, Kuwait, Israel, Slovenia, Estonia, Latvia, Macedonia, Croatia, and Japan

FREE the IRAQI people!!!

What OTHER countries want the IRAQI citizens FREEDOM?
goodnesswins, with technical assistance from abner

17 posted on 02/13/2003 9:20:57 PM PST by goodnesswins (Thank the Military for your freedom and security....and thank a Rich person for jobs.)
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To: sheik yerbouty
Cretin est un putain

and ... Putin est un cretin?

19 posted on 02/13/2003 9:27:04 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: goodnesswins
Cretin may be the Prime Minister of Canada, but he mosr certainly does NOT represent me or any of my friends and acquaintances. He is a doddering arrogant little twit that has the powers of a tyrant, in an allegedly "free" country.

Jesus wept.

20 posted on 02/13/2003 9:27:38 PM PST by Don W (Lead, follow, or get outta the way!)
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To: ffusco
"How do you say 'stupid bastard' in French?"

Simple. "Jean Chretien".
21 posted on 02/13/2003 9:28:01 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: goodnesswins
Include these 2 ARAB countries!!

Bahrain, United Arab Emirates

"# The United Arab Emirates and Bahrain became the first Arab states to announce they were sending troops and weapons to defend Kuwait against a possible Iraqi attack." - source CBS news

23 posted on 02/13/2003 9:31:27 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
If the parliamentary caucus picked the party leader instead of a convention of instant party members, Chretien would have been long gone by now.

The pompous posturing blatherskite embarrasses the country every time he opens his mouth.
24 posted on 02/13/2003 9:34:50 PM PST by Loyalist
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To: mhking
"I see a destabilized Middle East."

This is such a frickin cop-out. it's like saying "Sure, the house is on fire! But I'm not going to spray water on it because it could damage the house."

Is he really suggesting the middle east can now be considered "stable"?
25 posted on 02/13/2003 9:36:08 PM PST by ChuckSnow5 (U.N. Stands for; Useless Notion)
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To: seamole
Excellent Question:

To Mock Them. What the pompous and prentious fear the most. Ridicule.
26 posted on 02/13/2003 9:43:54 PM PST by ffusco (sempre ragione)
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To: mhking
Chretien: "Don't go it alone."

Translation: because then I will be revealed for the EuroSocialist that I am.
27 posted on 02/13/2003 9:44:50 PM PST by ChuckSnow5 (Socialism: The Equal distribution of Poverty.)
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To: Mark Felton
Next post of the flags, they will be included...thanks.
28 posted on 02/13/2003 9:48:16 PM PST by goodnesswins (Thank the Military for your freedom and security....and thank a Rich person for jobs.)
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To: mhking
I talk to a lot of people up here about Iraq. For the most part I hear two stories. One story is pro-USA....and whatever need be done. The other story ranges from waiting for UN approval or/and the USA is warmongering over oil....etc.

Curiously, the demographics of the pro-USA group........tend to be 'established' Canadians. The other side is a motley collection, that PC rules prevent me from identifying. The first group I mentioned is not getting equal representation in Ottawa.

Statements today out of our PM that implore the USA to wait for UN permission are laughable. It shows how much of a sorry investment the Liberals are making in this near-extinct institution. The demise of the UN will be well deserved......and save us Canadians from our real leader........Mr. Kofi himself.

29 posted on 02/13/2003 9:50:26 PM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: Don W
Spread the word.
30 posted on 02/13/2003 9:52:02 PM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: PhiKapMom
"Wonder how many Al Qaeda have come across the Canadian border?"

Don't worry.....life is too good here, our plan is to 'spoil-em' into submission.

31 posted on 02/13/2003 10:00:43 PM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: mhking
Chrétien tells U.S. not to go it alone

I'm sorry. Did somebody say something?

32 posted on 02/13/2003 10:14:39 PM PST by uglybiker
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To: mhking
PLEASE BOYCOTT EVERYTHING MADE IN THAT SO-CALLED COUNTRY NORTH OF US. WE SHOULDN'T EVEN GO THERE ON VACATION. It is run by left-wing anti-free-speech socialists and block-the-highways-during-strikes union thugs.
33 posted on 02/13/2003 10:40:09 PM PST by graycamel (All that and cold weather too.)
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To: uglybiker
"I'm sorry. Did somebody say something?"

No. It was only a fart, please excuse.

34 posted on 02/14/2003 12:41:38 AM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: mhking
Prime Minister Jean Chrétien made a major foreign policy speech

An oxymoron...

35 posted on 02/14/2003 5:43:59 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: mhking
It is imperative to avoid the perception of a 'clash of civilizations.

No, actually, it's not. This is a war between those who would seek to protect their citizens from terrorist annihilation of innocents, and those who would undertake to bring that about. That IS a civilizational clash - of the first order.

36 posted on 02/14/2003 5:45:52 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: mhking
It's very hard for us to say definitively this is what Canada's view is going to be

We know, we know...

37 posted on 02/14/2003 5:46:58 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: mhking
For the Opposition, the question is still whether the government intends to join the U.S. in any military operation in Iraq. "Is it engaged in the Iraq crisis, and if so, how?" asked Canadian Alliance Leader Stephen Harper.

Hard to figure out, isn't it, Stephen?

38 posted on 02/14/2003 5:48:57 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
Canada? I think Jean Chretien advertised more for http://www.canadadry in his Chicago address than he did in stating where Canada stands on the crucial issue of making the world safe for democracy in the 21st century.
39 posted on 02/14/2003 5:49:50 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Sorry that should be http://www.canadadry.com. Tastes dry and its less filling!
40 posted on 02/14/2003 5:51:00 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Canada? I think Jean Chretien advertised more for http://www.canadadry in his Chicago address than he did in stating where Canada stands on the crucial issue of making the world safe for democracy in the 21st century.

Meekly Canada, like piddling France, can enjoy the benefits of a relatively peaceful and hopeful world, while others sacrifice their lives to make it so. When Americans are on the front line, Chreepien will be sipping his club soda...

41 posted on 02/14/2003 5:53:26 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: FreeCanuckistan
Probably true! Life is good!

Have you noticed that the vast majority of world leaders elected during the Clinton years are clones when it comes to foreign affairs? The stick your head in the sand kind!
42 posted on 02/14/2003 6:36:36 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: Mark Felton
C'est possible..
43 posted on 02/14/2003 11:02:47 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: ffusco
Batarde stupide, I think.
44 posted on 02/14/2003 11:03:30 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: mhking
Hmmmm? Is he getting his marching orders from x42 ...??

It seems x42 is loudly saying the same thing ...??
45 posted on 02/14/2003 11:26:46 AM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: mhking
The prime minister told his American audience that in spite of U.S. frustration with the UN "the long-term interests of the United States will be better served by acting through the United Nations, than by acting alone."

Au revoir frog eater. OUR LEADERS will determine how to best serve the long term interests of the United States, not the UN.

46 posted on 02/14/2003 11:33:25 AM PST by finnman69 (!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Yes I sure have noticed this "vast conspiracy"....could it be Liberal instead?

Jokes aside, there are those who want strip us of nationhood. If the US capitulates its independence to the UN......it'll be game over.

47 posted on 02/14/2003 1:20:12 PM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: FreeCanuckistan
I agree with you -- liberal sounds about right! LOL!!!

We cannot surrender to the United Nations pure and simple for the sake of the Free World IMHO!
48 posted on 02/14/2003 2:44:04 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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