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'HUMAN SHIELDS' GATHERING IN BAGHDAD
nypost ^ | 2-14-03 | Sameer N. Yacoub

Posted on 02/14/2003 5:17:12 AM PST by Jimmyclyde

'HUMAN SHIELDS' GATHERING IN BAGHDAD By SAMEER N. YACOUB Associated Press Writer

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) . American and European peace activists wrapped their arms around posts on a bridge over the Tigris River on Thursday, symbolizing their intent to act as human shields in any U.S. war on Iraq.

The 14 activists, mostly from Italy, were one of the first groups here using the ``shield'' title, which suggests they might place their bodies at potential targets to deter bombing. But they acknowledged their mission was only a gesture meant to try to deter an invasion to topple Saddam Hussein.

``I have no intention of being a martyr,'' Canadian Roberta Taman said. ``I'm here because I believe that the world wants peace and that we can achieve peace.''

The campaigners, organized as the Iraq Peace Team, have been draping banners over public facilities in Baghdad this week . an electricity station, a water treatment plant and, on Thursday, the Martyrs Bridge over the Tigris. ``Bombing This Site Is A War Crime,'' the banners read.

Dozens of other ``human shields'' . Europeans and Americans . obtained visas at the Iraqi Embassy in Ankara, Turkey, on Tuesday and were also headed for Iraq, riding in double-decker buses.

``A country that can hardly provide water for its citizens cannot be a threat to the world,'' Ignacio Cano of Spain said.

Some of the activists charge that the Geneva Conventions governing the practices of war make it a crime to attack facilities essential to civilian life, as the U.S. military did in the 1991 Gulf War when its bombs knocked out Iraq's electricity system.

Standing on the bridge, Iraq Peace Team leader Kathy Kelly of Chicago said, ``You can imagine what this city would be like if it were cut off when some people need desperately to get to a hospital or to connect with the people on the other side.''

In New York on Thursday, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and the 15 Security Council members were meeting to discuss the potential humanitarian consequences of a war in Iraq.

The U.N. refugee agency said it is concerned about possible shortages of food, drinking water, winterized shelters, sanitation, and other basic services. It says 600,000 Iraqis might flee to neighboring countries if war breaks out.

As peace groups here and around the world readied for marches and rallies Saturday in protest of U.S. war plans, the U.N. arms inspectors in Iraq quietly went about another day's business Thursday.

Among other missions, a U.N. chemical team began the neutralization of mustard gas from 10 artillery shells at the former al-Muthanna chemical weapons installation in the desert northwest of Baghdad.

The 155mm shells, whose complete neutralization is expected to take another two or three days, were the first banned weapons destroyed by the U.N. teams in the new round of inspections that began last Nov. 27. The shells were actually inventoried by previous U.N. inspectors in the 1990s, but were not destroyed before that inspections regime collapsed in 1998.

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1 posted on 02/14/2003 5:17:12 AM PST by Jimmyclyde
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To: Jimmyclyde
Bombs away!
2 posted on 02/14/2003 5:18:35 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Jimmyclyde
Katherina Soederholm, front right, a Norwegian, and other members of the 'human shield' group, which includes Americans, Britons, Australians, Norwegians, Greeks, Swiss and Turks, speak to journalists in Ankara on Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2003, before their departure for the Turkey-Syrian border enroute to Baghdad. Iraq granted visas to some 65 ``human shields'' traveling to the country to protest a possible U.S.-led war, a group member said Tuesday. (AP Photo)
Tue Feb 11, 5:20 PM ET

Katherina Soederholm, front right, a Norwegian, and other members of the 'human shield' group, which includes Americans, Britons, Australians, Norwegians, Greeks, Swiss and Turks, speak to journalists in Ankara on Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2003, before their departure for the Turkey-Syrian border enroute to Baghdad. Iraq granted visas to some 65 ``human shields'' traveling to the country to protest a possible U.S.-led war, a group member said Tuesday. (AP Photo)

3 posted on 02/14/2003 5:19:25 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: Jimmyclyde
Darwin...
4 posted on 02/14/2003 5:19:31 AM PST by Principled
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To: Jimmyclyde
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread...

Would you rush to a country you knew was going to be obliterated?
5 posted on 02/14/2003 5:20:38 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (If I could get a degree in Trivia, I would have my doctorate!)
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To: Jimmyclyde
Now if we can only encourage the 2004 Democratic hopefuls to join them.
6 posted on 02/14/2003 5:21:09 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Jimmyclyde
American and European peace activists wrapped their arms around posts on a bridge over the Tigris River on Thursday,

I suspect that these folks know we are NOT going to take out the bridges. Matter of fact I would suspect we are going to try to take the bridges and oil fields first, intacted.

If anyone is going to take out the bridge, it will be Saddam to stall our progress.

7 posted on 02/14/2003 5:21:37 AM PST by mware
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To: Jimmyclyde
The bombing starts in five minutes.
8 posted on 02/14/2003 5:21:49 AM PST by truthkeeper
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To: Jimmyclyde
``A country that can hardly provide water for its citizens cannot be a threat to the world,'' Ignacio Cano of Spain said.

... and then in the next breath, he no doubt said: "... and why isn't Bush focusing on North Korea which is the far greater threat to the world ..."

9 posted on 02/14/2003 5:22:20 AM PST by PMCarey
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To: Jimmyclyde
But they acknowledged their mission was only a gesture meant to try to deter an invasion to topple Saddam Hussein....

These peaceniks live in a fantasy world where putting a flower in a gun barrel is a symbolic gesture that might stop a killing, and being a human shield will stop a war. They are going to be snapped RIGHT BACK to reality when the Pershings start raining down on Iraq, and that bridge is probably going down in the first wave.

They will wet their pants and run for cover when they see that war is not an abstract, symbolic political publicity stunt but a hellhole where real people die, regardless of the "rightness" of their cause. Anyone who would martyr themselves to protect the regime in Iraq deserves to become collateral damage much more than the wise Iraqi civilians who have probably headed for the hills already.

10 posted on 02/14/2003 5:23:11 AM PST by ez (WHERE'S THE OVERNIGHT POLLING ON THE ESTRADA FILIBUSTER???)
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To: Jimmyclyde
I need clarification on nomination rules. Is it permissible to nominate a whole group of people for the Darwin Awards or must they be nominated individually. (Either way, I get dibs.)
11 posted on 02/14/2003 5:23:49 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Do not engage in a battle of wits when you have no ammunition.)
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To: Jimmyclyde
What's the splatter rate on a human shield?
12 posted on 02/14/2003 5:24:09 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: Thane_Banquo
Bye, Bye!
13 posted on 02/14/2003 5:24:13 AM PST by chachacha
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To: Jimmyclyde
``I have no intention of being a martyr,'' Canadian Roberta Taman said.

But she's a human shield? Um, Roberta.....may I help you screw your head back on straight?

14 posted on 02/14/2003 5:24:24 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Jimmyclyde
The kumbaya crowd - duck and cover. ;)
15 posted on 02/14/2003 5:25:07 AM PST by veronica
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To: Lee'sGhost
They gotta die first...
16 posted on 02/14/2003 5:25:28 AM PST by BullDog108 (delinda est islam)
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To: Jimmyclyde
I think the world would have been a whole lot better off if they had served as human heat shields instead...

ping for Columbia crew...
17 posted on 02/14/2003 5:25:43 AM PST by Dirk McQuickly
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To: Jimmyclyde
If military action begins and some of these people get hurt, even CNN is going to have a hard time drumming up sympathy for them. Anyone who is dumb enough to rush un-armed into a war zone, in defense of a sadistic military dictator, because they didn't like the way the Florida election turned out, deserves everything they get.
18 posted on 02/14/2003 5:25:50 AM PST by tcostell (IMAGINE WORLD PEACE ...as a great smoking hole in the desert)
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To: PMCarey
``A country that can hardly provide water for its citizens cannot be a threat to the world,'' Ignacio Cano of Spain said.

Um...

Excuse me sir, your name is Igancio and you are a human shield.

You have three brain cells and their all fighting each other.

Kindly lay across the bridge, I hear a F-15 inbound.

19 posted on 02/14/2003 5:26:22 AM PST by Jimmyclyde
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To: All
Could you change the title to read "Human Targets" please?
20 posted on 02/14/2003 5:26:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Jimmyclyde
Does anyone remember that the MEDIA served as "Human Shields" back in 1991! Those "Wonderful" MEDIA ratings boosting TV Images from Baghdad were being broadcast from a hotel which was built over the MAJOR UNDERGROUND COMMAND & CONTROL FACILITY FOR IRAQ!

Were it not for all the "Talking Heads" staying at the hotel, it would have been TOAST as we took out the bunkers beneath it!

21 posted on 02/14/2003 5:27:11 AM PST by ExSES
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To: Jimmyclyde
Ah, the lighter side of collateral damage.
22 posted on 02/14/2003 5:27:22 AM PST by speedy
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To: Jimmyclyde

23 posted on 02/14/2003 5:27:23 AM PST by Drango (don't need no stinkin' tag line)
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To: Jimmyclyde
Fantasy versus physics...

I can tell you who win this one.

24 posted on 02/14/2003 5:27:32 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Duck...and cover....Duck...and cover....)
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To: Lee'sGhost
I think they have to die first, but stay tuned.
25 posted on 02/14/2003 5:28:20 AM PST by katana
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To: Jimmyclyde
Thank you, oh-so-noble "human shields!" The gene pool will be better off without you!
26 posted on 02/14/2003 5:29:29 AM PST by Destructor
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To: Jimmyclyde
shields? No. Targets? Yes.
27 posted on 02/14/2003 5:30:14 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: Jimmyclyde
"roger AC, turn 159 for bogie, inbound and hot!"...
28 posted on 02/14/2003 5:30:21 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (If I could get a degree in Trivia, I would have my doctorate!)
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To: Jimmyclyde
A group of international peace activists deploy a banner on Baghdad's Martyrs Bridge Thursday Feb. 13, 2003, as a warning to the Bush administration that bombing civilian infrastructures is a war crime. (AP Photo/Samir Mezban)
Thu Feb 13, 4:25 AM ET

A group of international peace activists deploy a banner on Baghdad's Martyrs Bridge Thursday Feb. 13, 2003, as a warning to the Bush administration that bombing civilian infrastructures is a war crime. (AP Photo/Samir Mezban)

29 posted on 02/14/2003 5:32:45 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: Jimmyclyde
Any chance they have laser designators attached to their skulls?
30 posted on 02/14/2003 5:33:00 AM PST by TonyInOhio ("Be ye men of valor")
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To: Jimmyclyde
Stack 'em like cordwood.
31 posted on 02/14/2003 5:33:49 AM PST by Sgt Hulka 123
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To: Jimmyclyde
Hello, Roberta.....you went there as a HUMAN SHIELD......sheesh.....the stupidity of this bunch is incomprehensible......
32 posted on 02/14/2003 5:33:53 AM PST by little-e
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To: BullDog108
No sh!t. I planning ahead.
33 posted on 02/14/2003 5:34:38 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Do not engage in a battle of wits when you have no ammunition.)
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To: katana
Yes, I know, but I'm planning ahead. That's the joke. Jeez.
34 posted on 02/14/2003 5:35:41 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Do not engage in a battle of wits when you have no ammunition.)
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To: Joe Boucher
The campaigners, organized as the Iraq Peace Team, have been draping banners over public facilities in Baghdad this week . an electricity station, a water treatment plant and, on Thursday, the Martyrs Bridge over the Tigris. ``Bombing This Site Is A War Crime,'' the banners read.

Since when was it a war crime to blow up a bridge, powerplants and water treatment plants?

35 posted on 02/14/2003 5:35:47 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (If I could get a degree in Trivia, I would have my doctorate!)
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To: Jimmyclyde
``A country that can hardly provide water for its citizens cannot be a threat to the world,''

Why don't they just go and ask Iraq's southern neighbors.

36 posted on 02/14/2003 5:37:30 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry
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To: Jimmyclyde
``I have no intention of being a martyr,'' Canadian Roberta Taman said. ``I'm here because I believe that the world wants peace and that we can achieve peace.''

Translation: I just wanna be thought of as a potential matyr for something I really, well, sorta really, believe in...

37 posted on 02/14/2003 5:38:28 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: Jimmyclyde
``A country that can hardly provide water for its citizens cannot be a threat to the world,'' Ignacio Cano of Spain said.

Translation: A government which takes in billions of dollars from illicit oil sales just can't have weapons of mass destruction.....

38 posted on 02/14/2003 5:40:16 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Damn, again the spin in the media.... A group, all of 5 people. Well, that's what this photo shows. I was thinking maybe about 20 - 30 people protesting.

BOMBS AWAY!
39 posted on 02/14/2003 5:40:29 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (If I could get a degree in Trivia, I would have my doctorate!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Smart bombs could be dropped right through the window behind them! It'd be hysterical watching them standing there shielding a pile of rubble.
40 posted on 02/14/2003 5:41:27 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Jimmyclyde
``You can imagine what this city would be like if it were cut off when some people need desperately to get to a hospital or to connect with the people on the other side.''

Translation: You can imagine what this city would be like if people on one side didn't want to go to the hospital on that side, but insisted on going to the hospital on the other side...

41 posted on 02/14/2003 5:42:06 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: Jimmyclyde
No point in wasting JDAMs unless the environment is target rich.
42 posted on 02/14/2003 5:42:34 AM PST by Man of the Right
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To: Jimmyclyde
Just when I got rid of my computer game "Back to Bahgdad". I wonder if there will be a new release :)
43 posted on 02/14/2003 5:43:12 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (If I could get a degree in Trivia, I would have my doctorate!)
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To: Jimmyclyde
What concerns me about these “human shields” is the validation they give to the tactic.

The Palestinian terrorists keep themselves, their operational headquarters, their bomb factories, etc. close to or in the midst of civilian areas. This is to make any retaliatory strikes by the Israelis propaganda victories, with lots of collateral damage.

Most civilized people abhor this tactic.

The Taliban and Al Qaeda embraced it in Afghanistan, surrounding themselves with innocent civilians.

In case after case, reprehensible people and cowards will crouch behind innocents, and even threaten their destruction, in order to hold the more civilized at bay, pondering the abhorrent choice before them. “Do I allow these animals to win the day, or do I destroy so many innocents along with them?”

Hobson’s Choice. It is a tactic that is, of itself, a crime against humanity.

44 posted on 02/14/2003 5:45:31 AM PST by steve in DC
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To: Jimmyclyde
God forgive me, but I hope they are the first to get blown up. Blown so much that none of their human flesh pieces cannot be identified.

I have had it with these cowardly, tax-a-million, grubby gross anti-american idiots
45 posted on 02/14/2003 5:48:03 AM PST by hapy
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To: steve in DC
True, however in this case, these "soft" shields are voluntary. These people are flocking in to try to stop a GBU - 15 from flying in. Thats purely assanine!
46 posted on 02/14/2003 5:48:17 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (If I could get a degree in Trivia, I would have my doctorate!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Nothing wrong with forward planning. Carry on! (chuckle)
47 posted on 02/14/2003 5:48:48 AM PST by katana
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
ummm... what do these people do for a living that they can take time off from work to go sit in Bagdhad...?

48 posted on 02/14/2003 5:49:22 AM PST by Mr. K (all your (OPTIONAL TAG LINE) are belong to us)
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To: Jimmyclyde
please send the beast, dasshole, conyers, Teddy, gonad, nobrains......
49 posted on 02/14/2003 5:49:58 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: Jimmyclyde
Iraq is becoming a target rich environment.
50 posted on 02/14/2003 5:50:52 AM PST by PhilipFreneau
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