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Two Found Shot Dead Near US Plane Crash in Colombia
Reuters ^ | 2-14-03 | Reuters

Posted on 02/14/2003 1:51:16 PM PST by eyespysomething

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To: AppyPappy
It's suicide

Say that with Tom Lantos' accent. "Admiral Boorda committed SUIDIIIIDE for less"

61 posted on 02/14/2003 6:42:49 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: big ern
You said it better and more completely than I could have. Right on target.
62 posted on 02/14/2003 7:05:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com)
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To: kcar
By the time the drug companies get sued by the families of everyone who overdoses, drugs will be essentially unaffordable and the criminals will be selling them again. You guys need to to think about this stuff before you believe it.
63 posted on 02/14/2003 7:11:32 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Travis McGee
Oh, come on. You could have at least spelled more correctly than I did.
64 posted on 02/14/2003 7:16:45 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: AppyPappy
Gosh you're right. I forgot the lawyer's cut. Stupid of me.
It occurs to me that the IRS attacks income, but lawyers attack wealth. They go where the IRS (usually) can't and are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the temporarily non-de jure ruling party (which is a matter of some embarassment to them and to the UN, which is patiently waiting for their return).
65 posted on 02/14/2003 7:54:43 PM PST by kcar
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To: AppyPappy
What is the "drug company" when someone grows his own? Who would his family sue, if he died of an OD of his own stuff?
66 posted on 02/14/2003 8:32:33 PM PST by coloradan
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To: big ern
Great post. I feel more informed.

But even before this I knew this was one of the most dangerous countries on earth. I just feel these people knew the risk they were taking. It is still most unfornate.

I understand there is misery all over the world. Drugs fund much of it as you stated. But even where they are not part of the equation it exist. Africa is a very dangerous continent. Not a single country I know of is all that safe.

America can't do everything for everyone but if the first world and second world countries would stick together we could most likely end much of this misery. Unfornately The French, German, Russian and Chinaese governments make this impossible.

But then again when has nation building worked over the long term? It will fail in Iraq I imagine. Hopefully we will destroy it's WMD first though.
67 posted on 02/14/2003 8:33:19 PM PST by ImphClinton
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To: coloradan
Do you honestly think the government will let you "grow your own" and avoid taxes??
68 posted on 02/14/2003 8:37:25 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: AppyPappy
1. You didn't answer my question. 2. Does anyone pay tax on homebrew beer? Does anyone pay tax on home grown tobacco?
69 posted on 02/14/2003 8:39:57 PM PST by coloradan
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To: coloradan
You need to add the word YET
70 posted on 02/14/2003 10:42:02 PM PST by bybybill (It`s just for the fish and then the children)
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To: coloradan
In NC, it is against the law to grow your own tobacco.
71 posted on 02/15/2003 5:55:56 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: big ern
It's a war with Marxism. And like all good Marxist rebel movements no means of war are off limits, terror, drugs, courts, propoganda, disinformation, using the opponents political system against itself, you name it.

Travis, did I miss anything?

You may have missed the 17th District Rep. Sam Farr-D (CA), who has ties to Columbia. He is definately a Leftist and is always pontificating about Columbia while criticizing President Bush for not paying attention to issues "in his own backyard."

This seditious traitor to the United States spews all the traditional Marxist talking points. I wonder how much intelligence information makes its way to FARC via certain US Congressional sources...

72 posted on 02/15/2003 5:58:17 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Democrap
So what were those Americans doing down there, anyway? Were they tourists?
73 posted on 02/15/2003 6:11:20 AM PST by alpowolf
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To: sonofron
I can read fine, my sneering friend. The point is, what were they doing there in the first place? Perhaps meddling in another country's civil war? Guess what: if you do that you run the risk of being shot.
74 posted on 02/15/2003 6:13:17 AM PST by alpowolf
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To: AppyPappy
So, that leaves about 49 states where it's legal. Please name the states that prohibit homebrewing or that tax homebrew beer. And then please answer the questions in my post: What is the "drug company" when someone grows his own? Who would his family sue, if he died of an OD of his own stuff?

Thanks in advance.
75 posted on 02/15/2003 7:40:34 AM PST by coloradan
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To: coloradan
I'm sure the government is going to pass up all that tax money to let people grow their own dope. I thought the whole point of legalizing drugs was to be able to tax it. Are you now saying that tax revenues won't happen if we legalize drugs?
76 posted on 02/15/2003 7:52:01 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: AppyPappy
so that anyone can wreck their lives with it and then WE have to pay for their care? That's nuts.

We already do pay for their care, I could see legalization if we cut them off SSI checks, Medicaid and job security for their drug use, let them deal with the consequences of their own actions, they shouldn't have taxpayer money to treat their overdoses either.

77 posted on 02/15/2003 8:05:30 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Cut off those things and it can happen.
78 posted on 02/15/2003 8:23:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: alpowolf
So what were those Americans doing down there, anyway? Were they tourists?

Do you have classifications of Americans air crash victims that deserve to be executed? Or is it that they may interfere with the free flow of chemicals that you may be dependent on? And the three that are missing, should we demand that they receive the same fate? Do you support the FARC in their other activities ( Bombings, murder, kidnapping, extortion, hijacking ) as much as you do their dope activity? Are by any chance you a libertarian who doesn?t use dope but supports the rights of other to do so? I thought so LOL

79 posted on 02/15/2003 4:53:30 PM PST by Democrap
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To: Democrap
Changing the subject with ad hominem attacks only weakens your argument. You would do better to address what I actually say.

What the crash victims "deserve" has nothing to do with it. I will say this again: they were interfering in a civil war. That act entails risks, the more so since it is not our country's business.

As for our drug problem, it is ours and ours alone. The Colombians didn't cause it, and killing Colombians as our country's drug warriors (and some posters here) suggest will not make it go away.

As for your pitiful ad hominem attack: yes I am a libertarian and I do not interfere in the affairs of others "for their own good". I do not have any dependence on "chemicals" as you would have it, but if I did I would be quite able to get them despite the efforts of that pitiful failure that is the glorious Holy War on drugs.

When I was in the service I too was sent to interfere in somebody else's civil war. Some of my comrades sacrificed their lives so that some dufus polishing the seat of a chair with his ass could appear "decisive". Of course the people living in that country were not helped at all, but that doesn't matter to the Bigmouths. Those who speak so easily of killing are free to get a plane ticket and a rifle and stop talking and start doing. After all, everybody I have encountered here is a deadly green-bereted SEALTeenageMutantNinjaTurtle. So go for it, tough guys. You wouldn't think of sending somebody else, now would you? LOL
80 posted on 02/15/2003 7:49:45 PM PST by alpowolf
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