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'Mideast' men who sought plane in custody
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 14, 2003 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 02/14/2003 6:01:26 PM PST by Dubya

Anti-terror unit probed alleged inquiry about 'crop-duster' near Boston

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: February 14, 2003 8:43 p.m. Eastern

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com Amid the nation's heightened terror-alert status, an alleged attempt by two "Middle Eastern-looking" to purchase a crop-duster has resulted in the detention of two Brazilians by Immigration and Naturalization Service agents.

The Salem News reported yesterday that men with "thick accents" asked for a crop-duster last Tuesday at a flight school at the Beverly, Mass., airport, about 18 miles north of Boston. After a report to local police by the flight school's owner, Massachusetts state police and the FBI were brought into the investigation, prompted by suspicion of a connection to terrorism.

Shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the FAA grounded thousands of crop-dusters across the country for fear they could be used in a biological or chemical attack. Hijacker Mohammad Atta reportedly made numerous trips to rural airports to learn about crop-dusters, and a crop-duster manual was found in the possession of "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussouai.

The two unidentified Brazilian nationals were taken into custody about 7 p.m. yesterday, the Boston Herald reported.

Massachusetts state police Sgt. David Paine confirmed that the men are being held in connection with an unsolicited offer last week to buy a vintage banner-hauling Piper Pawnee plane.

"At this time, it is not believed there is any link to terrorism involved," he said.

The Herald said state police are investigating the matter along with the INS, the Joint Terrorism Task Force and police from the Boston-area cities of Beverly, Hudson and Marlboro.

Authorities insisted that the airplane is not a "crop-duster" that could be used for chemical warfare, the Herald said.

The plane's owner, Steve LeBel said the 42-year-old Piper is used to tow advertisements

"Saying this could be a crop-duster is like saying a pickup truck could be a rocket launcher,'' he told the Herald.

The owner of the Beverly airport's General Aviation Services, Victor Capozzi, said he called local police Wednesday to tell them that on Feb. 6 he had been called upon by two seemingly Middle Eastern men with "thick accents,'' who were asking about airplanes and flying lessons, the Herald reported.

Capozzi said a man whose face was badly pock-marked "did all the talking,'' while a second man with "big, spooky eyes'' never opened his mouth.

He said he didn't notify authorities at the time because, "I wasn't thinking terrorists. That's just not right. There's a lot of good people out there.''


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1 posted on 02/14/2003 6:01:26 PM PST by Dubya
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To: Dubya
two unidentified Brazilian nationals

Brazil, hmm? From the Triple Border area? (Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina - a no-man's land infested with ME types, particularly those with terrorist connections...)

2 posted on 02/14/2003 6:20:42 PM PST by livius
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To: Dubya
"He said he didn't notify authorities at the time because, "I wasn't thinking terrorists. That's just not right. There's a lot of good people out there.''"

I wonder what got him thinking 'terrorists?'

3 posted on 02/14/2003 6:20:54 PM PST by blam
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To: aristeides; thinden; honway; piasa
I see we are still playing the denial game. God forbid we offend any of our enemies.

How can these idiots ask for my trust when they lie through their teeth every day? We are being played for fools by our own government.

4 posted on 02/14/2003 6:48:56 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Dubya
No aircraft sales to any foreigners. Period! Why would a foreigner in the US need to rent or purchase a plane. Sorry Mohammed, no can do!
5 posted on 02/14/2003 7:04:03 PM PST by holyscroller (Why are Liberal female media types always ugly to boot?)
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To: Sorcha
FYI
6 posted on 02/14/2003 7:11:40 PM PST by coloradan
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To: Dubya
How did this story, which opened this way:
an alleged attempt by two "Middle Eastern- looking" to purchase a crop-duster
turn out to be this instead:
Authorities insisted that the airplane is not a "crop-duster" that could be used for chemical warfare, the Herald said.

The plane's owner, Steve LeBel said the 42-year-old Piper is used to tow advertisements

Is World Net Daily slipping cogs or something?
7 posted on 02/14/2003 7:13:38 PM PST by _Jim (//NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR\\)
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To: Dubya
"I wasn't thinking terrorists. That's just not right. There's a lot of good people out there.''

That is so September 10.

8 posted on 02/14/2003 7:32:23 PM PST by Semper911 (I used to have another tagline. This is my new one.)
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To: _Jim
Authorities insisted that the airplane is not a "crop-duster" that could be used for chemical warfare, the Herald said.

Authorities insisted that hijacked airliners could never be used to take down the World Trade Center towers.

9 posted on 02/14/2003 7:39:04 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Semper911
You got it right.
10 posted on 02/14/2003 7:44:06 PM PST by Dubya
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To: Palladin
Authorities insisted that hijacked airliners could never be used to take down the World Trade Center towers.

So apples are pears are peaches - huh?

A banner tow-plane is NOT equipped with a sprayer apparatus -

- is this the subtle point you might be missing here?

11 posted on 02/14/2003 7:47:51 PM PST by _Jim (//NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR\\)
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To: livius
"Brazilians" my a$$.

Did you know that the "Venezuelan" found with the live grenade at Heathrow had a Koran in his carry on?

Some how the media "missed" that fact.

12 posted on 02/14/2003 7:51:03 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com)
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To: livius
Also yesterday the grenade guy from Colombia-Venezuela at the GB Airport.
13 posted on 02/14/2003 7:57:03 PM PST by L`enn
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To: L`enn
Anyone hear about the backback found on the Az/Mexico border than contained a journal in Arabic.
14 posted on 02/14/2003 7:58:37 PM PST by riri
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To: _Jim
What if they intended to fly this type of plane loaded up with ricin or anthrax or smallpox into a football or baseball stadium?

I'm with the poster who said above we should not be renting ANY type of aircraft to ANY type of foreigner.

Al Q'aeda think outside the box. They will try anything to kill us. They believe Allah will give them success in schemes that may seem totally nuts to us.

Who would ever have thought that their ridiculous scheme to hijack three fully fuel-loaded passenger airlines and crash them into the Towers and the Pentagon would have resulted in the deaths of 3,000 American citizens?

In fact, in the days immediately following 9-11, one of the biggest fears was that some type of chemical or biological agent had been brought aboard the crashed planes by the terrorists and had been released into the environments of NYC and DC.
15 posted on 02/14/2003 8:00:17 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Palladin
What if they intended to fly this type of plane loaded up ...

So peaches *are* apples *are* pears!

With YOUR logic - WHY NOT just rest a convertible from Hertz and rip down the road sowing those poisons!

16 posted on 02/14/2003 8:03:45 PM PST by _Jim (//NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR\\)
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To: _Jim
just rest ==> just rent ...
17 posted on 02/14/2003 8:05:06 PM PST by _Jim (//NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR\\)
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To: Travis McGee
Where did you get the info about the Koran in the Venezualan's carry-on?
18 posted on 02/14/2003 8:05:26 PM PST by twntaipan (Defend American Liberty: Defeat a demoncRAT!)
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To: Dubya
"The owner of the Beverly airport's General Aviation Services, Victor Capozzi, said he called local police Wednesday to tell them that on Feb. 6 he had been called upon by two seemingly Middle Eastern men with "thick accents,'' who were asking about airplanes and flying lessons..."

Good man.

19 posted on 02/14/2003 8:06:22 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: _Jim
You're a real winner.

Go stick your head back in the sand.
20 posted on 02/14/2003 8:11:18 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Lion's Cub
So, why are they holding them if everyhting is peachy-keen?
21 posted on 02/14/2003 8:16:11 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: _Jim
I think the Hertz idea has promise...you definitely think outside the box Jim ;-)
22 posted on 02/14/2003 8:19:44 PM PST by Registered
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To: Dubya
I think the muslims hate us because all the Democrats are becomming Joo-ish!
23 posted on 02/14/2003 8:24:36 PM PST by concerned about politics (Stop Taxpayer Supported Socialist Indoctrinatin... Support School Choice ..Demand it.)
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To: blam
Glad this guys light bulb finally went off. I think alot of the early speculation about Al Queada in S. Amarica may be right on target.Once again FR is miles ahead of the media.
24 posted on 02/14/2003 9:00:30 PM PST by ping jockey (Bite me Allah)
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To: Palladin
Too Shay
25 posted on 02/14/2003 9:01:28 PM PST by ping jockey (Bite me Allah)
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To: _Jim
During WWII the gas was pumped into the exhaust, and out the tail pipe of a car. Scarey.....
26 posted on 02/14/2003 9:09:27 PM PST by yellowroses (a Yankee in Texas)
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To: _Jim

That assumes it had a cog to slip in the first place. ;)

27 posted on 02/14/2003 9:13:43 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Semper911
That is so September 10.

Mind if I copy that from time to time?

28 posted on 02/14/2003 9:59:34 PM PST by Brads Gramma (See Grampa Dave's Tag Line)
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To: _Jim
Piper Pawnee's are designed as ag planes, with the chemical tanks and valving built into the aircraft from the factory. Although many if not most of the Pawnees have gone to the happy hunting ground, due to corrosion and the fact that they were underpowered to begin with, there are still a number of them around.

It would only take a few trips to Home Depot to make the aircraft a spray plane again.

29 posted on 02/14/2003 10:05:49 PM PST by wcbtinman
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To: holyscroller
Exactly!
30 posted on 02/14/2003 10:15:59 PM PST by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: livius
re post no. 2 --- Very astute.
31 posted on 02/14/2003 11:21:27 PM PST by Cindy
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To: twntaipan
Michael Savage show 2-13-2003, quoting BBC.
32 posted on 02/14/2003 11:23:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com)
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To: _Jim
But the first version is so much more interesting.
33 posted on 02/14/2003 11:47:38 PM PST by Redcloak (Jn th lton t Prvnt the bs of nnssrl Lngth, Vrbs nd Nnsnsl Tg Lns)
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To: Travis McGee
Thx
34 posted on 02/14/2003 11:49:48 PM PST by twntaipan (Defend American Liberty: Defeat a demoncRAT!)
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To: _Jim
A Piper Pawnee in action


35 posted on 02/15/2003 12:47:35 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: razorback-bert
The original story was that it was a crop duster that the thick accents wanted to modify to tow banners...
36 posted on 02/15/2003 12:53:17 AM PST by null and void
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To: Lion's Cub
We are being played for fools by our own government.

What thread are you commenting on? There is absolutely nothing about gov't lies in this thread. What are you trying to stir up??

37 posted on 02/15/2003 2:00:11 AM PST by zip
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To: zip
I'm not trying to stir up anything. I'm expressing my opinion.
38 posted on 02/15/2003 2:07:25 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: _Jim
"Is World Net Daily slipping cogs or something?"

Typical sloppy WND sensationalism. The reason WND reporters were kicked out of the Bush press room.

39 posted on 02/15/2003 7:42:11 AM PST by elfman2
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