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VANITY: US Atomic clock sych crash?
Vanity | 2/15/03 | Vanity

Posted on 02/15/2003 2:59:42 PM PST by NativeNewYorker

For about an hour around 4pm EST, both my wall clock that synchs to the atomic clock satellite signal, and my computer clock that pings atomic clock web sites, gave erratic responses.

They seem to be ok and in sych now, and I am posting this in case anyone else out there experienced the same thing.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: atomicclock

1 posted on 02/15/2003 2:59:42 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Are you up for this minor technical problem?
2 posted on 02/15/2003 3:01:11 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: NativeNewYorker
EMP 8-?
3 posted on 02/15/2003 3:01:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi.....)
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To: anniegetyourgun
The atomic clock has not been working in my area for several days now. When I saw your post it reminded to look for another version of atomic clock but just to be sure I checked it one more time and it is now up and functioning properly again.
4 posted on 02/15/2003 3:03:29 PM PST by PatriotGames (AOOGHA AOOGHA CLEAR THE BRIDGE! DIVE! DIVE!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
My comp clock has been erratic for a couple of months. One morning it might be an hour or so slow, I'll set it, and it keeps losing time. Then one day it'll be right on. I don't get it.

I do have a cheapo "atomic clock" sitting near the desk, and it seems to be fine.
5 posted on 02/15/2003 3:04:32 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: PatriotGames
I've really got to get me one of them atomic clocks. Sounds like they're much more reliable than this MickeyMouse University watch I've been using.....
6 posted on 02/15/2003 3:05:16 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: NativeNewYorker
Kind of interesting - Wish you had posted when it was happening so I could have checked mine. Don't know what significance if any this might have. It does seem that problems with the system - in my experience - are rare.
7 posted on 02/15/2003 3:05:24 PM PST by Route66 (America's Mainstreet)
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To: NativeNewYorker
It must be Illuminote' contrails (tm)ArtBell
8 posted on 02/15/2003 3:06:38 PM PST by ChadGore (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordian)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Maybe someone forgot to wind it???!!!!

:-}

9 posted on 02/15/2003 3:06:46 PM PST by raybbr
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To: NativeNewYorker
The atomic clocks on department store shelves have notoriously crappy receivers. I can't explain your problems over the internet, but many atomic wall clocks and the like only set themselves once a day. If the signal's bad for a few days at the same time, it appears the the signal's been down continuously.

If you want a truly reliable time signal, the GPS-based indoor clocks with outside GPS antennas are a good bet, but be prepared to spend $$.
10 posted on 02/15/2003 3:08:41 PM PST by July 4th
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To: anniegetyourgun
Are you up for this minor technical problem?

Hang tight...I'm looking into the situation.

Might take me longer than usual...I been vey sych the last few days....seriesly...I got a hugh cold.

11 posted on 02/15/2003 3:10:15 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Pluck your "Magic Twanger"...Froggy!!!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
I've had this problem, too!

The time servers I visit (with a cool, free little utility called AboutTime) are:

NASA (ns.arc.nasa.gov , 128.102.16.2)
NIST (time.nist.gov , 192.43.244.18)
U.S. Naval Observatory (tick.usno.navy.mil , 192.5.41.40)

They've been timing out on me lately.

Anyone have any others?

12 posted on 02/15/2003 3:10:56 PM PST by martin_fierro (oh, did I say that out loud?)
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To: NativeNewYorker
I too have an atomic synch clock but didn't happen to look at it during that period
13 posted on 02/15/2003 3:13:15 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Route66
I first thought it was my wall clock being funky, not worth bothering FR with.

Then I did some maintenance on my PC here, rebooted, and saw the SAME anomaly when my synch utility came up.

Both clocks were resetting for Pacific time, instead of Eastern US time.

Once I finished tinkering, I posted.

14 posted on 02/15/2003 3:13:29 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: martin_fierro
You and I use the exact same program/settings. Hmmm.
15 posted on 02/15/2003 3:14:04 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker
My ROLEX seems to be keeping time just fine!
16 posted on 02/15/2003 3:17:28 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (A penny saved is a liberal governmental oversite!!!)
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To: martin_fierro
I think the timer service NNYer is synching to is a shortwave radio station - WWV in Fort Collins, CO.

My Sharper Image clock syncs to that radio signal, and seems to be accurate right now.

17 posted on 02/15/2003 3:18:23 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: NativeNewYorker
A whole lotta time servers HEAH
18 posted on 02/15/2003 3:19:19 PM PST by martin_fierro (oh, did I say that out loud?)
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To: HAL9000
My mistake - I missed the part where he said it was syncing to a satellite signal.
19 posted on 02/15/2003 3:20:44 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: NativeNewYorker
Hmmm, maybe GPS spoofing was reactivated?
20 posted on 02/15/2003 3:23:52 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: martin_fierro
Here's another time site.
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21 posted on 02/15/2003 3:23:59 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (A penny saved is a liberal governmental oversite!!!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Yeah, I bought one of those fake atomic clocks in Tijuana for $15. It's a piece of junk.
22 posted on 02/15/2003 3:27:54 PM PST by babaloo999
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To: US_MilitaryRules
Time site
23 posted on 02/15/2003 3:28:33 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (A penny saved is a governmental oversite!!!)
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To: HAL9000
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ - The Official Source of Time for the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Global Positioning System (GPS), and a Standard of Time for the United States
24 posted on 02/15/2003 3:31:33 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: NativeNewYorker; anniegetyourgun; All
Ok...I think I know what the problem is.

Atomic clocks rely on a small piece of radioactive material and a measuring device, that records it's rate of decay. (the decay of the material...not the measuring device)

This material has a central component comprised from the family of Quarks.

It appears that the Quarks recently sued for reparations based on the fact that recent revelations (no not the Bible stuff) have stated that the Gluons, Reverabatons (a fifties acapella group), and the ever big...albeit strangely powerless Neutrons, are overshadowing the Quarks need to occupy the neighborhood.

As a result of this...the rate of decay being measured is currently under discussion by the United Nations...which uses GPS as it's standard. Unfortunately the multi national corporation which in fact owns the "Globally Peeing Sissies"...is in fact decaying ever quickly. Too fast in fact..to measure it's own demise.

Damn!!!This new cold remedy is vey good!!

25 posted on 02/15/2003 3:33:48 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Pluck your "Magic Twanger"...Froggy!!!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
They seem to be ok and in sych now, and I am posting this in case anyone else out there experienced the same thing.

There was a short period where I was reading this thread before you posted it, but it's cleared up now.

26 posted on 02/15/2003 3:37:29 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Here's all the sites I have.

time-A.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
Navobs1.gatech.edu
Ncnoc.ncren.net
Tick.mit.edu
Tick.ucla.edu
Tich.uh.edu
Time-a.nist.gov
Time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
Time-b.nist.gov
Time-b.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
Wave.mbari.org

I think that the Net is being attacked, there is alot of unusual problems going on lately.

27 posted on 02/15/2003 3:51:50 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: martin_fierro
Here's a few good ones:

navobs1.usnogps.navy.mil
navobs2.usnogps.navy.mil
ntp2.usno.navy.mil
tick.usno.navy.mil

Also, most major universities have time servers, but you'll have to dig a little deeper for those:>
28 posted on 02/15/2003 3:54:45 PM PST by rs79bm
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To: NormsRevenge
Calling George Noory!


29 posted on 02/15/2003 3:56:21 PM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: anniegetyourgun; NativeNewYorker
I've really got to get me one of them atomic clocks. Sounds like they're much more reliable than this MickeyMouse University watch I've been using.....

You're just asking for frustration! '-}

Back in the 70's I developed manufacturing processs for the timekeeping modules in the Texas Instruments electronic watches. (Remember those red LEDs and having to push a button to read the time?)

We had a master clock phase-locked to the WWV atomic clocks -- with WWV time distrubuted all through the factory. This included a test set 'socket' (into which a watch module could be placed) that would automatically synch that module exactly with WWV.

My "on-the-arm test" watch contained a module that I had selected and tweaked for a drift of only milliseconds per month WRT to WWV. IOW, I wore a watch that I knew was one of the world's most accurate -- synched exactly to WWV time.

That turned out to be one of the most frustrating experiences of my life -- because, as I learned, almost no one else has the correct time -- or cares! Probably the worst offenders were the radio stations by which most folks checked their clocks/watches.

It was very common to see the hour roll around, and then hear on the radio, "At the sound of the tone, the time -- brought to you by Grimblegrotzynick's Bar and Grill and Auto Repair Shop, where you can blah, blah, blah... the time will be six o:clock....BEEP!

(Reminds me of the 'urban legend' about the phone operator and the guy who blew the noon whistle at the mill...) '-}

I finally gave up and just set my watch about five minutes ahead of WWV -- and thought about it no longer... I now wear the cheapest watch I can find! :-)

Keep your "MickeyMouse University watch" -- you're probably as nearly on time as anyone else! :-D

30 posted on 02/15/2003 4:01:16 PM PST by TXnMA ((No Longer!!!))
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Somehow I knew your deep (very deep) scientific prowess would bring light to this matter. That cold medicine you're taking packs a real punch, eh?

Really, sorry to hear you are under the weather. I've been struggling since the first of the year, myself. Came down with flu, progressed to bronchitis, and today spent hours in ER while they decided it's now worked itself into pleurisy. Taking bunches of drugs now....feel like a pharmacy on legs. Doing FR is about all I am capable of right now....while sitting up in bed.

32 posted on 02/15/2003 4:35:59 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Razzz
Just before the poles switch you can expect anomalies whereas time really won't matter or you really won't care what time it is.

Why wait 'till then?

I'm retired -- and living (by choice, BTW) 'way out in the boonies. So, most of the time, I don't care what time (or day, for that matter) it is... :-)

No more Franklin Planners; no more PDAs; no more meetings; no more of that self-imposed evil called, "structured time"!

As my wise brother-in-law says, "Hey, we're retired -- if it ain't fun, we don't do it..." < LOL!!! >

Hmmm -- wonder where I left that watch... < BIG GRIN >

33 posted on 02/15/2003 7:09:51 PM PST by TXnMA ((No Longer!!!))
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To: NativeNewYorker
Go here if (don't) have the time.
34 posted on 02/15/2003 7:15:46 PM PST by Consort
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To: NativeNewYorker
Why isn't this in "Breaking"?
35 posted on 02/15/2003 7:52:41 PM PST by Illbay (If the hunger for liberty destroys order, the hunger for order will destroy liberty. - Will Durant)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
I been vey sych the last few days

Hm. Sounds series.

36 posted on 02/15/2003 7:53:33 PM PST by Illbay (If the hunger for liberty destroys order, the hunger for order will destroy liberty. - Will Durant)
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