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US Offers Turkey Big Aid Package for Help in Iraq
Reuters ^ | 2/15/2003 | Adam Entous

Posted on 02/15/2003 3:20:49 PM PST by a_Turk

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21 posted on 02/15/2003 9:06:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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Relocating the bases, equipment and troops currently in Germany should also provide a very big boost to the Turkish economy. It would also permanently prepostion forces where they might be needed.

It seems that the Germans don't need, or want, our protection from the USSR anymore. (Conveniently AFTER the fall of the Berlin Wall and the dissolution of the USSR.) And, like France, they seem to place their economic ties to Iraq above the need to remove a dangerous and ruthless dictator.

It would also assure them of OUR commitment to their security in a dangerous area. (Something Germany, France and Belgium don't seem to care about.)
22 posted on 02/15/2003 9:45:04 PM PST by Greybeard7
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LOL, in a couple of years the Germans and the French will be begging the rich Turks to move to their country to help bale out their failing economies. That'll really be fun to watch.
23 posted on 02/15/2003 10:02:11 PM PST by McGavin999
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It's going to be a grim few years, I fear.
24 posted on 02/15/2003 10:15:36 PM PST by a_Turk (Ready? Set? Wait!!)
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LOL, in a couple of years the Germans and the French will be begging the rich Turks to move to their country to help bale out their failing economies. That'll really be fun to watch.

Like the other socialists around the world, they abort their children in such numbers that they face a demographic shortfall in coming decades.

They'll be begging Turks and others to move there and become citizens so they can help support German services for a bunch of old socialists who murdered their unborn children rather than give them life.

Germany is now giving substantial tax breaks to families and hiking taxes on everyone else to try to keep the failing socialist boat afloat in an era where American productivity has eclipsed that of Germany, unheard of since the Second World War. But it's too late for Germany's halfway remedies. It's not quite a demographic disaster of Italian proportions but the national character of Germany will change. France and Germany are both in demographic and economic decline.

One can readily understand why Britain and the New Europe want to be members of the EU. But not why they would feel any great urge to bankroll the aging and declining population of Old Europe by approving the new French-designed European federal constitution which is intended to make France and Brussels their masters. Especially after France and Germany have demonstrated exactly what their international leadership really means.
25 posted on 02/15/2003 10:21:29 PM PST by George W. Bush
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Grim for who? Turkey or Germany? I have no doubt but that the Turks will quickly turn their economy around. America does not forget it's friends (at least it doesn't if we can keep people like Clinton out of office).

We're going to need a list of things the Turks will be exporting to the US so the people can keep an eye out for them. Governments change from time to time, but the people remain the same and will remember.

26 posted on 02/15/2003 10:23:50 PM PST by McGavin999
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>> Grim for who?

For those who have to do the killing, and for those who have to witness it and what might follow, least of all for those who will just die..

I keep thinking that these "islamofascists", since they really are so impotent, are one of mother natures distractions, or maybe just a ripple before an earthquake. Maybe these pitiful terrorists are not the real danger. Maybe the real danger was glimpsed in the crack suffered in NATO. Glimpsed in the opinions rendered by the Russians and Chinese on internal NATO business.

To be sure: There are many who are ready to pounce, waiting for the right moment to do it..

Better not run out of bombs and missiles.
27 posted on 02/15/2003 10:58:27 PM PST by a_Turk (Ready? Set? Wait!!)
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I keep thinking that these "islamofascists", since they really are so impotent, are one of mother natures distractions, or maybe just a ripple before an earthquake. Maybe these pitiful terrorists are not the real danger. Maybe the real danger was glimpsed in the crack suffered in NATO. Glimpsed in the opinions rendered by the Russians and Chinese on internal NATO business.

The Russians and Chinese have been and continue to be oppose the existence of NATO. NATO, backed by U.S. power, destroyed the USSR. And despite the Axis of Weasels, NATO still has enough backbone to check Russian nationalism. And to provide the sort of basic international coalition to thwart Chinese designs on the Middle East.
28 posted on 02/16/2003 7:28:22 AM PST by George W. Bush
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