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Hunters need to separate themselves from gun nuts
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 2-17-03 | DALE BOWMAN

Posted on 02/17/2003 5:43:46 AM PST by SJackson

"About the time that Daddy left to fight the big war/I saw my first pistol in the general store/In the general store, when I was thirteen/Thought it was the finest thing I ever had seen/So I asked if I could have one someday when I grew up/Mama dropped a dozen eggs, she really blew up/She really blew up and I didn't understand/Mama said the pistol is the Devil's right hand.''

Steve Earle's ''The Devil's Right Hand''

Ihunt. It's the most intense and rewarding thing I do in the outdoors.

To hunt, I own guns.

They are my most valued possessions.

When I was 13, Dad gave me the family .22 rifle as my most cherished Christmas gift. When I turned 18, my 12-gauge shotgun and my deer rifle were my first important life purchases.

The only thing I asked Dad to bequeath me in his will is an ancient, open-bore, single-shot, 12-gauge shotgun my Grandpa Bowman gave him as his first gun as a boy.

Guns come with meanings for me, come with stories and histories.

So I watch with more than passing interest when an anti-gun person such as Mayor Daley steps into the political arena with gun legislation.

The latest foray came Thursday.

My first thought was, "Oh, God, not again.''

Then I picked through the highlights.

As a hunter and human being, I agreed with almost all of them.

As hunters, we must learn to separate ourselves from the gun nuts, those who would oppose every firearm restriction. Otherwise, we'll be lumped in the crackpot pile.

*A ban on military-style, semi-automatic assault weapons. I absolutely agree. It should have been done years ago. The problem for hunters is the definition of assault rifles; otherwise, it in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Restrict handgun purchases to one per person per month. For my money, you could ban handguns completely. That in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Gun fingerprinting. I have no problem with that other than it is another governmental intrusion into our lives. It in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Lengthening the waiting period for taking possession of a handgun from three days to 10. Hey, make it a month, a year, 10 years. It in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Require annual background checks of those who hold Firearm Owners Identification Cards. I think that will be a logistical nightmare and should not be enacted for that reason. Otherwise, check all you want. It in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Increase the cost of a FOID card. It annoys me. It will cost me. But it in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Mandate background checks of people who buy firearms at gun shows. Absolutely. That should have been in place years ago. That in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*State licensing of gun dealers and a state database of gun information. Go ahead. I think it will be a logistical nightmare; otherwise, it in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Increased penalty for secret compartments in vehicles for weapons. Throw the book at them. That in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

Daley's proposals make sense. But then, I am a hunter who owns guns, not a gun nut. Guns don't mean more than life to me.

Dale Bowman can be reached at outdoordb@aol.com.

"Bowman's Outdoor Line'' is heard on "Outdoors with Mike Norris'' (3-4 p.m. Thursdays, 1280-AM).


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To: SJackson
Guys like this are trying to prove what nice guys they are while fulfilling the gun grabbers dream of divide and conquer. We see this attitude a lot at the local gun club. The trapshooters insist they are the "good" guys and condemn the black rifle set and people coming in there with their Glocks. They could just as well shoot trap in a bar electronically.
21 posted on 02/17/2003 6:13:18 AM PST by Ches
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To: SJackson
"As hunters, we must learn to separate ourselves from the gun nuts, those who would oppose every firearm restriction. Otherwise, we'll be lumped in the crackpot pile."

You need to update your knowledge of gun control and the Bill of Rights. Every line of your article is the way gun control facist-neo-nazi America haters take away guns from people; that will include yours also.

"To hunt, I own guns."
"They are my most valued possessions."
"Daley's proposals make sense. But then, I am a hunter who owns guns, not a gun nut. Guns don't mean more than life to me."

Interesting. The significance of all gun control legislation is the removal of both the constitutional right to keep and bear arms and eventually the disarming of good citizens; it has been proven in other gun control nations and cities that violent gun incidents increase with gun control laws. More guns, less crime is a FACT! Criminals never voluntarily disarm, in fact, most felons keep their guns despite the law. By disarming good citizens homes are easy prey for criminals. Another fact is even more important, all dictatorships disarm good citizens to prevent them from rising up against them. Hitler is one example that comes to mind.Our Christian forefathers knew this and provided for it.
Do you vote democrat? Just curious....


22 posted on 02/17/2003 6:17:03 AM PST by wgeorge2001 (One God, one faith, one baptism. The Father,Son and Holy Spirit!)
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To: SJackson
Then he won't mind when they try to ban "sniper rifles" ans "street sweeper" shotguns. Who needs one of those anyway? As long as it doesn't interfere with my right. (/sarcasm)

What an idiot.(spit!)
23 posted on 02/17/2003 6:19:17 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: SJackson
*A ban on military-style, semi-automatic assault weapons. I absolutely agree. It should have been done years ago. The problem for hunters is the definition of assault rifles; otherwise, it in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

Okay, so a military-style, semi-automatic assault weapon will destroy its target more effciently than a long rifle chambered for .223 or .308 that is marketed for varmint hunting?

BREAKING NEWS: Shocking new evidence that says liberals are incapable of presenting a coherent argument for anything. Story at eleven.

24 posted on 02/17/2003 6:20:35 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker
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To: Ches
We see this attitude a lot at the local gun club. The trapshooters insist they are the "good" guys and condemn the black rifle set and people coming in there with their Glocks.

I've seen this too, unfortunately. It is very troubling. It amazes me when I hear a hunter who is blissfully sighting in his .300 Win Mag state with no hint of irony that he sees no reason why anyone needs an "assault weapon".

25 posted on 02/17/2003 6:22:36 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: SJackson
Steve Earle is a self-avowed communist.
26 posted on 02/17/2003 6:23:47 AM PST by Gary Seven
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To: SJackson
I own a pistol that I've never fired. Not once. I don't hunt. But there may come a day when we are forced to defend ourselves against an enemy. Could be a civil war. Maybe an incursion. Anarchy. That's what the 2nd Amendment means to me. That pistol is duct tape I hope I'll never need. It's my defense in case the worst happens. Why on earth would anyone be against it?
27 posted on 02/17/2003 6:24:33 AM PST by Glenn
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To: RogueIsland
"he sees no reason why anyone needs an "assault weapon"."

They use the typical gun grabber terms - black guns, assault rifle, rapid fire and the ever present "I don't know why anyone needs a pistol."

They must live in a gated community. Geez!

28 posted on 02/17/2003 6:26:41 AM PST by Ches
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To: SJackson
I'll save them the trouble: Comment removed by Moderator.
29 posted on 02/17/2003 6:28:07 AM PST by wcbtinman
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To: SJackson; newgeezer
Hunters need to separate themselves from gun nuts

The ole divide and conquer trick. How about if pistol shooters separate themselves from rifle shooters and shoot gun shooters separate themselves from both. They we can further divide by calliber.

30 posted on 02/17/2003 6:28:19 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: SJackson
Well, I hate to be the one to break the bad news, BUT Daley is not your Problem ANYMORE! It is Rod "the Second Amendment HATER" Blagojevich! Hang on to your seat, You ain't seen Nothin YET!!
31 posted on 02/17/2003 6:29:32 AM PST by chicagolady
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To: SJackson
One more thing. According to this guy, if you own a gun and don't hunt, you're a nut? Would he confine this brilliant logic to guns, or would he extend it to other tools as well? I own quite a few hunting knives that have never been used for their marketed purpose, i.e. gutting, skinning etc. I must be a gun and knife nut, eh?
32 posted on 02/17/2003 6:29:52 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker
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To: SJackson
"I am a hunter who owns guns, not a gun nut. Guns don't mean more than life to me."

I am a gun owner that doesn't hunt. Basically I don't like to kill things and would prefer to get mine at the grocery store.

I own and shoot military weapons at pieces of paper. If you want to take them from me you can pry them from my cold dead fingers. My adversion to killing things ends at the second amendment to the United States Constitution.

This guy is a total phony jerk. They pop up every once in awhile. Divide and conquer strategy of the anti's.

33 posted on 02/17/2003 6:29:56 AM PST by SSN558
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To: SJackson
Just A couple of points this so called hunter needs to understand. We all need to hnag together or we shall certainly hang seperately. You have no RIGHT to hunt per se. You have a Right to keep and bear arms. *A ban on military-style, semi-automatic assault weapons. I absolutely agree. It should have been done years ago. The problem for hunters is the definition of assault rifles; otherwise, it in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

Like pump and semi auto shotguns are excluded. I further note that a number of excellent hunting rifles are included in such bans.

*Restrict handgun purchases to one per person per month. For my money, you could ban handguns completely. That in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

If one can ban handguns one can ban any gun.

Clearly this individual needs to read and understand Niemoller 'First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing. Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me.'

34 posted on 02/17/2003 6:32:09 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: SJackson
Instead of disarming law-abiding citizens, Illinois could give stiff sentences to criminals who use firearms in the commission of felonies. They could even execute murders, but that would be too logical.
35 posted on 02/17/2003 6:33:46 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Has anyone ever met a "gun nut"? The only ones i've ever seen are Hollwood and TV creations. Met plenty of gun owners in my life. Not one could ever be called a "gun nut".

Yes. A gun nut is someone who uses a firearm for a purpose different than yours. To the author, a hunter, it's a shooter. To some shooters, it's a hunter. Anyone owning a gun for self defense only is automatically a gun nut.

36 posted on 02/17/2003 6:36:11 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Paleo Conservative
Negative, Then half the police force including the Commander -in -Chief would have to go. It ain't gonna happen.
37 posted on 02/17/2003 6:37:53 AM PST by chicagolady
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To: SJackson
It's the old ....Divide and conquer trick!
38 posted on 02/17/2003 6:39:17 AM PST by chicagolady
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Then he won't mind when they try to ban "sniper rifles" ans "street sweeper" shotguns.

He'll like that idea, till he figures out what the ban applies to, when it will be too late.

39 posted on 02/17/2003 6:40:57 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I'm with you, can someone p-l-e-a-s-e tell me what a gun nut is?

I have several shoulder fired weapons, 50# and 90# Recurved Bows and lots of arrows with detachable target heads and a bag of replacement Hunting heads (all razor sharp).

Does that make me a Bow nut too?!!!

40 posted on 02/17/2003 6:41:49 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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