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To: jlogajan
Just like we invaded the secessionists states because they were bad. Enslavers.

What about the Northern enslavers??????????????? The North maintained slavery after the War.
With the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in December 1865, slavery was officially abolished in all areas of the United States.

What took y'all so long.

It sure is funny,,y'all never mention your slaves. Why is that??

207 posted on 02/20/2003 12:04:16 PM PST by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: SCDogPapa
It sure is funny,,y'all never mention your slaves. Why is that??

My granddaddy was a peasant man who came to America around the turn of the 20th century. So there never were any slaves in my blood line. Sorry.

However, no "northern" states seceded over the slaver issue or any other issue.

In Minnesota's case, the state was admitted to the Union in 1858 as a free state, just two years before the election of Lincoln. Southern states attempted to delay the admission of Minnesota because they insisted that states be paired when admitted, one slave for every one free.

213 posted on 02/20/2003 12:23:47 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: SCDogPapa; All
Long Island, New York circa 1600,1700,1800 had slaves... especially on Lloyd Estates, even in Nassau County. In fact, where I live is built over a huge estate, Ingraham Estates that owned slaves. Anyone with education will know that the North also had slaves. Frankly, I think the Civil War or War of North Aggression was God's punishment for the evil treatment of slaves anyway (not slavery itself but EVIL, BAD treatment, people not adhering to christian virtue and following the principles of the book of Philemon. After reading many threads on the War, I am beginning to think there were a lot of reasons this war was fought and slavery wasn't the only issue. It was a LOSE-LOSE situation whether it was fought or not. No major slave holding society has ever lasted because you can't build an economy on human chattel, they will rebel eventually. My personal view is that if the Civil War was never fought slavery would have ended ANYWAY in the South, and maybe we'd even be more intergrated and less touchy about race.

I respect the men (and their women who supported them) who fought on both sides. But since I always have to be different and strange, I'd probably wear a confederate cap to see Gods and Generals. I hope my rambling makes sense to everyone.
214 posted on 02/20/2003 12:35:18 PM PST by cyborg
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To: SCDogPapa
The North maintained slavery after the War.

Actually all the Northern states had ended slavery on their own by January 1865 with the sole exception of Kentucky and y'all claim them as one of the confederacy anyway. Slavery would also still have been legal in those areas of the south not covered by the Emancipation Proclamation.

215 posted on 02/20/2003 12:43:49 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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