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Calling All Freepers!-- Making an Appeasenik Crimes List. Please Help!
Me | 18 Feb 03 | Me

Posted on 02/18/2003 1:19:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

I am putting together a list of "Appeasement crimes against humanity" to hand to local "peace protestors" at the next Freep. It will also be posted in an FR thread as a handout for people to use in their Freeps. Here's the list I have so far:

American appeaseniks told us Hitler was a European problem. French and British appeaseniks derided people like Winston Churchill who advocated a tough stance. On both sides of the Atlantic they considered the problem solved when Neville Chamberlain returned from Germany declaring, “Peace in our time.”

Appeaseniks opposed any consequential action agaainst Japan by the world community while Manchuria and China were raped.

Appeaseniks’ activities which lengthened the Cold War (by preaching detente-at-any-cost while tens of millions were murdered) are too many to list here.

Appeaseniks waited only a few days to begin telling us that September 11th was our fault, and that we weren’t in a war, but a law enforcement situation. This was perhaps the first time any political movement has ever described the slaughter of 3,000 civilians as a “law enforcement” problem.

Appeaseniks opposed the overthrow of the Taliban. We were told we would end up in a Viet Nam-style quagmire, that we would cause tens of thousands of civilian casualties, cause massive terrorist attacks against the U.S. homeland and make the Afghani people hate us bitterly. We destroyed the Taliban as a military force, caused few civilian casualties despite the Taliban storing their military equipment in residential areas, experienced no more terrorist attacks and witnessed the Afghans dancing in the street.


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I know this list is incomplete, for example, Rwanda and the Italian invasion of Ethiopia are not on it. Also, I will be including a section noting the fact that Clinton's non-UN sanctioned bombing in Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Serbia all went unopposed by the Appeaseniks.

Please let fly with suggestions, and if a sign suggestion comes to mind, please include it, too.

1 posted on 02/18/2003 1:19:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: Mr. Silverback
Appeasnicks were responsible for the US "loss" in Vietnam, and for forcing us to withdraw. Over 2 million people died as a result, plus more Vietnamese died after 1975 due to the communist takeover, than died during US involvement there.
2 posted on 02/18/2003 1:23:34 PM PST by narby ((Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordian))
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To: narby
Appeasnicks were responsible for the US "loss" in Vietnam, and for forcing us to withdraw. Over 2 million people died as a result, plus more Vietnamese died after 1975 due to the communist takeover, than died during US involvement there.

And let's not forget this timeline:

Prior to the Tet offensive, academics on US campuses are busy praising the North Vietnamese, though massive anti-war protests are few.
Tet offensive begins.
Tet battles play out. VC is destroyed, North Vietnamese cause set back significantly.
Hue is retaken. American troops find mass graves holding 3,000 civilians executed by the VC for "political crimes."
The anti-war movement in the U.S. really begins ramping up. Nobody mentions those 3,000 dead folks in Hue.

Also, the Appeaseniks never really worried much about the deaths in Laos and Cambodia.

3 posted on 02/18/2003 1:39:49 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We don't care what you say, we're gonna bomb them anyway!)
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To: onetimeatbandcamp
"put in there the statement from the 1940 gop convention affirming that america stay neutral in the war in europe and developing situation in the pacific."

I see you have to go waaaay back to find isolationism in the Republican party. Capitulation and appeasement, though, is a modern halmark of leftism. Nicaragua, Viet Nam, Korea, The Cold War, Afghanistan, etc. are all conflicts in which the left suggested we just give up.

BTW, please consider punctuation and capitalization. They are our friends here at FR, unlike your home at DUmmies central.

5 posted on 02/18/2003 2:02:00 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Islamofascism sucks!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; AntiJen
Could you guys offer suggestions and ping your lists?
6 posted on 02/18/2003 2:03:40 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We don't care what you say, we're gonna bomb them anyway!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Appeaseniks are responsible for the mess we're in now with Iraq. They opposed liberating Kuwait, predicting a quagmire. When those poor liberated souls were cheering in the streets, the appeasers championed the idea of sanctions instead of taking out Saddam. They got their way, only to blame the US for killing Iraqi children with the same sanctions.
7 posted on 02/18/2003 2:03:50 PM PST by ellery
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To: onetimeatbandcamp
And your position on the Vietnam War was exactly what?
9 posted on 02/18/2003 2:19:01 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Islamofascism sucks!)
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To: MadIvan
Would appreciate your input.
10 posted on 02/18/2003 2:28:05 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We don't care what you say, we're gonna bomb them anyway!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Check out the essay on this thread. The author lists the appeaseniks' arguments and shreds them to pieces with logic, facts and wit.

Pings coming up.

11 posted on 02/18/2003 2:51:50 PM PST by Jen (VetsCoR - THE Forum for Vets, future Vets and anybody who loves 'em!)
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To: SAMWolf; MistyCA; Victoria Delsoul; SpookBrat; OneLoyalAmerican; larryjohnson; The Real Deal; ...
PING! Ideas? Input?
12 posted on 02/18/2003 2:53:11 PM PST by Jen (VetsCoR - THE Forum for Vets, future Vets and anybody who loves 'em!)
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To: AntiJen
BTTT!!!!!
13 posted on 02/18/2003 2:54:47 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Mr. Silverback
Did any one mention Clinton/Carter's appeasement of North Korea?
14 posted on 02/18/2003 3:00:06 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Mr. Silverback; Amelia; Kathy in Alaska; bentfeather; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; radu; All
Appeaseniks waste oxygen, and promote global warming by producing too much carbon dioxide. They are worse than internal combustion engines, and you can't even get one horsepower or a decent trap time out of the bastards!

Oh, they also waste skin and space.

15 posted on 02/18/2003 3:04:30 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: Long Cut
bump will do what I can.
17 posted on 02/18/2003 3:18:57 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: AntiJen
Thanks much for the ping and the link!!
20 posted on 02/18/2003 3:37:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We don't care what you say, we're gonna bomb them anyway!)
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To: onetimeatbandcamp
"IAC/ANSWER opposed the serbia bombing"

Exactly. The Stalinists of the Workers World Party are in favor of Milosevic and every other totalitarian leftist that has come down the pike.

21 posted on 02/18/2003 3:38:29 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Islamofascism sucks!)
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To: facedown
Did any one mention Clinton/Carter's appeasement of North Korea?

Not yet, but that will go on my list!

22 posted on 02/18/2003 3:41:12 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We don't care what you say, we're gonna bomb them anyway!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Afghanistans dancing in the street...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/727005/posts?page=92#92

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,596125,00.html




Dancing in Herat
Afghans dance to celebrate the victory of the Northern Alliance in Herat, vacated by the Taliban on November 12.
Photo: Hasan Sarbakhshian, AP
November 16 2001: Afghanistan after the Taliban
Dancing in Herat




Watching football
Afghans in their house in Herat watch the World Cup qualifying football match between Iran and Ireland on satellite TV on November 15. Television was banned under the Taliban.
Photo: Hasan Sarbakhshian, AP
November 16 2001: Afghanistan after the Taliban
Watching football




Showing their faces
An Afghan woman and her daughter visit Kabul zoo. Under the Taliban they were not allowed to visit the zoo or show their faces.
Photo: Marco Di Lauro, AP
November 16 2001: Afghanistan after the Taliban
Showing their faces

24 posted on 02/18/2003 3:49:19 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye SADdam. You're soon to meet your buddy Stalin in Hades.)
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks! One good turn deserves another!


25 posted on 02/18/2003 4:05:15 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We don't care what you say, we're gonna bomb them anyway!)
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To: All
Just found this over at www.ejectejecteject.com:

In this, I am guardedly optimistic due to our recent victory in Afghanistan. Not the military victory, magnificent though it was.

No, I am thinking of things like the reopening of their soccer stadium, the field where I have seen -- thorough the camera obscura of the internet -- women in burqas forced to kneel and then shot through the back of the head for the crime of adultery. Kids play football there again. That’s a win, Noam Chomsky, you lying son of a bitch.

Little girls march to school in the morning, singing. That’s a win, Robert Fisk. Old men wept as the Afghan national flag was carried by an actual Afghan army during their first free National Day in two generations. That is a win for the Good Guys, too, Harold Pinter. I hear of Special Forces sergeants organizing little league teams and I just smile like a little kid.

Yeah, me too.

26 posted on 02/18/2003 4:12:33 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We don't care what you say, we're gonna bomb them anyway!)
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To: All
Aaaaahhhhhh CRAP!! Re-posting...

Just found this over at www.ejectejecteject.com:

In this, I am guardedly optimistic due to our recent victory in Afghanistan. Not the military victory, magnificent though it was.

No, I am thinking of things like the reopening of their soccer stadium, the field where I have seen -- thorough the camera obscura of the internet -- women in burqas forced to kneel and then shot through the back of the head for the crime of adultery. Kids play football there again. That’s a win, Noam Chomsky, you lying son of a bitch.

Little girls march to school in the morning, singing. That’s a win, Robert Fisk. Old men wept as the Afghan national flag was carried by an actual Afghan army during their first free National Day in two generations. That is a win for the Good Guys, too, Harold Pinter. I hear of Special Forces sergeants organizing little league teams and I just smile like a little kid.

Yeah, me too.

27 posted on 02/18/2003 4:17:27 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We don't care what you say, we're gonna bomb them anyway!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Thanks !
28 posted on 02/18/2003 4:41:21 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye SADdam. You're soon to meet your buddy Stalin in Hades.)
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To: Brad Cloven
onetimeataMarxistbandcamp is a Communist. Just read his previous posts.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/site/user-posts?id=86607
29 posted on 02/18/2003 6:14:59 PM PST by Sparta (Statism is a Mental Illness)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Here's a current one. All the Palestinians want is peace with Israel.
30 posted on 02/18/2003 6:15:58 PM PST by Sparta (Statism is a Mental Illness)
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To: AntiJen
AntiJen,This is a great idea,shame the cowardniks can't read,do we have a list of anyone in hollyweird who supports our troops,PS if I come up with anything to add to the list I will.
31 posted on 02/18/2003 6:24:30 PM PST by fatima (Prayers for all our troops and loved ones.)
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To: Sparta
onetimeataMarxistbandcamp is a Communist. Just read his previous posts.

No need! It was obvious by his third or fourth post to this thread.

32 posted on 02/18/2003 6:25:11 PM PST by CharacterCounts
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To: Mr. Silverback; Kathy in Alaska; radu; MoJo2001; Ragtime Cowgirl; SK1 Thurman; SevenofNine; zip; ...
"and ping your lists?"

Thanks for starting this thread!
PING!
33 posted on 02/18/2003 6:28:34 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Vic3O3; dd5339
ping
34 posted on 02/18/2003 6:32:55 PM PST by cavtrooper21 ('bout time for some mounted saber practice....)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Tonkin pinged me to this for which I am thankful because I heard a woman, sorry did not catch the name, on The News Hour tonight who said that the UN Security Council, LED BY THE US, withdrew from Ruwanda which led to the slaughter. She was unchallenged by Ms. Ifell (sp?). Anyone have any facts? I want to go after them on this.
35 posted on 02/18/2003 6:36:11 PM PST by Bahbah (Pray for our Troops)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Everything Japan did before August 6 1945...

add to that the in-gratitude of Communist China...

and the hope that we actually uphold our agreement with Taiwan!!

36 posted on 02/18/2003 6:36:56 PM PST by Nitro
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To: onetimeatbandcamp; Mr. Silverback; All
"the people who make up IAC/ANSWER opposed the serbia bombing."

We must have missed all the marches, protests, ads, celebrity mouthpieces, etc., etc...

God, what flaming hipocritical cowards the skinwasters are.

37 posted on 02/18/2003 6:37:47 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: AntiJen
Seems to me that North Korea has nuclear weapons rightr now becasue of the Clinton Appeasement Policy.
38 posted on 02/18/2003 6:39:24 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Tonk, Rock On!!

Who loves the world's Greatest Navy??

I do!!

Do you think there was ever a movie with a bus or train station scene, that they didn't have a "squid" cruise by in Navy Blue "cracker-jacks" and a white hat??

40 posted on 02/18/2003 6:45:46 PM PST by Nitro
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To: SAMWolf
"Seems to me that North Korea has nuclear weapons rightr now becasue of the Clinton Appeasement Policy."

True, and the Clinton-lovers in the media can't cover THAT one. Not to mention the fact that North Korea was the beneficiary of diplomacy, negotiation, concessions, and inspections, AS WELL AS A SIGNED AGREEMENT not to produce nukes. They gleefully did so, almost as soon as Carter and Clinton slapped each other's backs.

And now people want to do THE SAME THING with Hussein?!? What is this, "battered Leftist syndrome"?

41 posted on 02/18/2003 6:48:56 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: Nitro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; bentfeather; Squantos; harpseal; Travis McGee; ...
"Do you think there was ever a movie with a bus or train station scene, that they didn't have a "squid" cruise by in Navy Blue "cracker-jacks" and a white hat??"

Nope, it's some kind of tradition, just like the one of having a "Squid" at one end of the bar in EVERY saloon scene made, outside of Westerns. Wonder why that is?

And as far as the "Crackerjacks" go,(actually, Service Dress Blues or SDB's to us) my command today had an SDB inspection...over 1300 people, all polished up in our Blues. Officers, Chiefs, and Bluejackets, of which I am one, all popped tall and proud in our finest uniforms and gleaming shoes.

I love that uniform, so much I got married in it.

42 posted on 02/18/2003 6:56:01 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: Mr. Silverback
NEVER FORGET

HILLARY RODHAM =

Friend of Communist HO CHI MINH
Friend of Communist FIDEL CASTRO
Friend of Communist NORTH KOREA

against US.

.."IS it SAFE?".. with an Enemy that is now just around the corner and up our streets..?

.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Armed Services Commitee..?

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629

NEVER FORGET
43 posted on 02/18/2003 6:57:03 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ( ..Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LzXRay.com .)
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To: Long Cut
The U.N. is just as worthless as the League of Nations.
44 posted on 02/18/2003 6:57:46 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Long Cut
"I love that uniform"

I still had my Dress Blues until about 8 years ago
when an ex "lost them" along with my cruise books etc.
45 posted on 02/18/2003 6:59:18 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"NEVER FORGET
HILLARY RODHAM = "

Never Forget she is still free because the government refuses to prosecute her.
46 posted on 02/18/2003 7:01:17 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Long Cut
God Bless ya Long Cut!

We are proud of our Military!

I would have loved to have seen you all standing there!

What a beautiful sight!
47 posted on 02/18/2003 7:01:28 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: SAMWolf
"The U.N. is just as worthless as the League of Nations."

We know who our real Allies are,
we don't need to belong to some worthless club to be told what to do.
48 posted on 02/18/2003 7:03:59 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Amen Tonk., especially an Anti-American club.
49 posted on 02/18/2003 7:06:38 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I would add Brittish appeasement of Mugabe in Zimbabwe.
50 posted on 02/18/2003 7:11:47 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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