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Germany sold 8 mobile chemical labs to Iraq?
WorldNetDaily ^

Posted on 02/18/2003 10:58:30 PM PST by BlackJack

Germany sold eight mobile laboratories to Iraq in the 1980s, reports the German-language New Zurich Newspaper.

According to a story in the Swiss paper yesterday, Iraq received the facilities for the purpose of producing biological and chemical weapons. Development expert Hans Branscheidt claims he personally saw the vehicles in action on several occasions in 1988, reports the paper.

"What is certain is that at least eight of these mobile laboratories were delivered from the Federal Republic of Germany to Iraq as late as the end of the eighties," Branscheidt is quoted as saying in the New Zurich Newspaper. According to the report, he also confirmed his comments to the Reuters news service.

Branscheidt also wrote in a column for the German-language Evangelical Press Service that the construction of an Iraqi research center for missile technology "became almost exclusively the work of German companies."

As WorldNetDaily reported, the German magazine Focus reported this month that German intelligence officials believe Iraq has truck-borne weapons labs for making chemical or biological weapons. The report also says that Iraq bought parts that could be used for the labs from German companies.

The head of Germany's intelligence service, August Hanning, told German legislators that the Iraqi government had even bought equipment for the laboratories in Germany, according to the Focus report. He said Baghdad had also attempted to buy material in Germany to build missiles.

Germany also may be involved with another "axis of evil" nation – North Korea.

Yesterday, the Washington Times reported that the North Korean ship that last year delivered Scud missiles to Yemen transferred a large shipment of chemical weapons material from Germany to North Korea recently, citing U.S. intelligence officials.

According to the Times report, the ship, the Sosan, was monitored as it arrived in North Korea earlier this month carrying a shipment of sodium cyanide, a precursor chemical used in making nerve gas. The vessel reportedly picked up the chemicals in Germany after unloading the missiles in Yemen.


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KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; biologicalweapons; germany; iraq; smallpox; terrorism; wmd
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1 posted on 02/18/2003 10:58:30 PM PST by BlackJack
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To: BlackJack
The people that claim Bush and America are Hitler and Germany are either retarded or communist subversives. One or the other.
2 posted on 02/18/2003 11:08:54 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (This space for rent (Not accepting bids from the United Nations))
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To: BlackJack
I dont understand why GW is keeping a lid on this stuff.

Colin Powell needs to stride into the UN and lay all of it out for the World to see. I dont care if it gets sources killed....it's time to tell the truth about our European confreres once and for all.

Let the chips fall where they may.
3 posted on 02/18/2003 11:09:25 PM PST by VaBthang4 (tm)
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To: BlackJack
So Germany is back in the gas business.

OVER SIX MILLION SERVED!

4 posted on 02/18/2003 11:10:43 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: BlackJack
Got a question .. Has the UN .. Blix or any of the inspector ever mention these mobile laboratories in any of their reports ?
5 posted on 02/18/2003 11:12:42 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: VaBthang4
Good question, the admin must know of these reports.
6 posted on 02/18/2003 11:13:30 PM PST by BlackJack
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To: Arthur McGowan
Guess this war is going to be for gas.
7 posted on 02/18/2003 11:13:57 PM PST by ClancyJ
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To: ApesForEvolution
"One or the other."

Possibly both.

8 posted on 02/18/2003 11:14:27 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (I heart "New" Europe!)
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To: Mo1
Not to my knowledge, but I think they have mentioned mobile
labs vaguely in some statements.
9 posted on 02/18/2003 11:14:53 PM PST by BlackJack
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To: Arthur McGowan
Clever...;o)
10 posted on 02/18/2003 11:15:06 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (I heart "New" Europe!)
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To: Mo1
The "most worrisome" discovery supposedly made by US intelligence was the existence of mobile biological weapons labs that are allegedly moved around the country on trucks and railroad cars to avoid detection. The evidence of the existence of these rolling labs came, he said, from Iraqi defectors.

The day before Powell’s speech, Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix dismissed the US claims of mobile laboratories, as well as the charge that Iraqis were moving prohibited materials out the back door as inspectors were coming in the front. He noted that the inspection teams perform extensive and sensitive tests, taking air, soil and water samples that would reveal traces of chemical and biological materials at a suspected site, even if the materials had been removed. Blix said that samples tested -- including at sites identified by US intelligence -- have provided no evidence of prohibited materials.

http://www.muslimedia.com/irq-powell.htm

11 posted on 02/18/2003 11:17:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: dixiechick2000
Nothing worse than a retarded communist...
12 posted on 02/18/2003 11:18:50 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (This space for rent (Not accepting bids from the United Nations))
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To: TLBSHOW
The day before Powell’s speech, Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix dismissed the US claims of mobile laboratories, as well as the charge that Iraqis were moving prohibited materials out the back door as inspectors were coming in the front.

Well I guess that answers my question ..

13 posted on 02/18/2003 11:21:39 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: BlackJack
Could they be here...http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/846384/posts
14 posted on 02/18/2003 11:23:14 PM PST by tubebender (?)
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To: Mo1
Remember that guy,

"I'M MAD AS HELL AND IM NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!"

WHY oh WHY did the UN do this?!?!

Obviously so Saddam could hide these mobile labs!!! Your thoughts?! (Read below)

WorldNetDaily: U.N. alerted Iraq
before U-2 flights
This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows.
To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31105

Tuesday, February 18, 2003



EYE ON THE GULF
U.N. alerted Iraq
before U-2 flights

Baghdad asked that authorities be warned 48 hours before launch

Posted: February 18, 2003
7:00 p.m. Eastern


© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

The United Nations gave Iraq 48 hours warning before it launched U-2 spy planes in support of weapons inspectors, according to an Israel radio report cited by the Jerusalem Post.

A U.N. weapons inspections team spokesman said Iraq requested that its authorities be given notice two days in advance of the flights, which began yesterday.

Inspection team spokesman Hiro Ueki said in Baghdad today that resumption of the flights signaled that Iraq's cooperation with the inspectors was improving, the Associated Press reported.

The spokesman said conditions for the flights are very similar to an agreement made under a former inspection regime in the 1990s.

The weapons inspectors have hailed the flights as fulfillment of a major demand, and Baghdad maintains it is giving the U.N. its full cooperation.

The United States and Great Britain, however, accused Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein of concealing weapons of mass destruction and plan to press this week for a Security Council resolution that would authorize force against Iraq, according to diplomats.



15 posted on 02/18/2003 11:35:36 PM PST by Gorons
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To: Gorons
Yes I read that and the 48 hour notice and flight plan is nothing but a joke

Saddam is making complete fools out of the UN, Blix and the inspectors

16 posted on 02/18/2003 11:44:16 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: BlackJack
I've heard that the french sold the diggers that allow the Iraqi's to hide stuff under ground.
17 posted on 02/18/2003 11:54:48 PM PST by Porterville
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To: Mo1
Yes I read that and the 48 hour notice and flight plan is nothing but a joke

What good are the spy planes if everything is hidden underground?

18 posted on 02/19/2003 12:10:36 AM PST by blondee123
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To: BlackJack
That's why the German's got on-board with NATO... What are we going to find out about the French ?
20 posted on 02/19/2003 12:17:20 AM PST by BamaFan69
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To: blondee123
What good are the spy planes if everything is hidden underground?

Good point .. plus .. What good are spy plane when the enemy know when and where the will be flying

21 posted on 02/19/2003 12:19:44 AM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: Arthur McGowan
So Germany is back in the gas business. ...OVER SIX MILLION SERVED!

And they've found someone else to do their dirtywork for them.

22 posted on 02/19/2003 12:20:24 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: BlackJack
Oh, so these are the "mobile labs" which Blix said did not exist - okay!!
23 posted on 02/19/2003 12:21:03 AM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: BlackJack
So Gerhard Schröder is actually Adolf Hitler, Jr.

Expose the evil and cast it out! Powell and W. must make this public so it can be used to bring down the SDP government in Germany as well as the primary purpose of revealing what Iraq is hiding from the UN and their darling Hans Blindx.

24 posted on 02/19/2003 12:22:09 AM PST by Siobhan ( Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet )
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To: BlackJack
Some historic German flags thanks to google ...











Some things never change ...
25 posted on 02/19/2003 12:30:25 AM PST by Gorons
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To: Mo1
The enemy seems to know a lot, especially since we all know that the inspectors may not all be "honest"! It's all a farce, time to end it!
26 posted on 02/19/2003 1:39:43 AM PST by blondee123
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To: VaBthang4
that will happen after the war.

shroeder and chirac are doomed in the free world.

I doubt it'll cause a whisper in their socialist states.
27 posted on 02/19/2003 2:35:04 AM PST by xzins (Babylon -- you have been weighed in the balance and been found wanting!)
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To: BlackJack
Scientists: We have evaded the brainless twit Hans Blix, oh great leader.
 
Saddam: Good, remember if they find you, kill them all or I kill you all.
 
Scientist: My Lord, we need more black pox cultures from chancellor Schröder too.
 
Saddam:  I have the Krauts by the balls, this will be no problem...muhahahahaha.
 
Scientists: Zeig heil Hussein mein führer, over and out.

28 posted on 02/19/2003 2:36:19 AM PST by Rain-maker
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To: xzins
I hope this doesn't influence Germany's opinion on whether we should go to war against Iraq.
29 posted on 02/19/2003 4:38:59 AM PST by Goodlife
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To: ClancyJ
Guess this war is going to be for gas.

Germany: "But the gas was only for use against the Juden..."

30 posted on 02/19/2003 5:33:15 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Gorons; Mo1
Giving them 48 hours notice before the flight can actually be useful to us.

We don't really need the U2--we have satellites to watch them with. When we announce the U2 flights, we can use the satellites to see what they are moving where.

It may not be the ideal situation for us, but I would never discount American ingenuity. We'll get them, one way or the other.

32 posted on 02/19/2003 7:00:25 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: aristeides; thinden; honway; piasa
fyi
33 posted on 02/19/2003 7:01:20 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: BlackJack
bump
34 posted on 02/19/2003 7:01:23 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: ApesForEvolution
The people that claim Bush and America are Hitler and Germany are either retarded
or communist subversives. One or the other.


My ephiphany abou the anti-freedom/anti-Dubya protestors was this:

The protestors think that Colin Powell is more evil than Saddam.

(And to think that Powell probably is the man who saved Saddam and his regime by advising
Papa Bush that it was time to call off the dogs given the gorey spectacle of "the highway of Death".)
35 posted on 02/19/2003 7:04:38 AM PST by VOA
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To: Technoir
Welcome to FreeRepublic.
36 posted on 02/19/2003 7:11:37 AM PST by babble-on (technoir rhymes with eschoir)
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To: Lion's Cub
These mobile labs were apparently sold to Iraq in the late 80's. That was when U.S. policy was to support Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war. So I don't see why this is explosive news about Germany. But it does serve to corroborate what Powell and the U.S. government have been saying about the mobile labs in Iraq.
38 posted on 02/19/2003 7:20:39 AM PST by aristeides
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To: Technoir
Welcome to FR, Technoir. Just think, in 24 hours, you will have been here one day!
39 posted on 02/19/2003 7:38:10 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: aristeides
Yes, we did support him against Iran. But the difference is that once we discovered how evil he is, we abandoned him as an ally and tried to contain him and limit the damage he could do. Germany didn't.

And as far as us supporting him initially, people forget that there really aren't any "good guys" in power in that region. Our choices were very limited.

40 posted on 02/19/2003 7:40:00 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Goodlife
Ha Ha Ha!

very fuinny and insightful.

Everything that is non conventional that Saddam will us against my conuntrymen will say made in Germany and the manuals will have been printed in France.

Germany is STILL our enemy

France has always been our enemy.

Boycott ALL from both these facists Nation States.
41 posted on 02/19/2003 8:01:39 AM PST by Kay Soze (F France and Germany- They are our enemies.)
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To: ApesForEvolution
The people that claim Bush and America are Hitler and Germany are either retarded or communist subversives. One or the other.

Would you believe BOTH?

43 posted on 02/19/2003 8:17:54 AM PST by Don Corleone
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To: Technoir
"The more things change, the more they stay the same"

(or something like that -- I usually write it in French, but I'm boycotting the weasels)

44 posted on 02/19/2003 8:19:51 AM PST by twyn1 (God Bless America !)
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To: Technoir
Want a war that spreads from Iraq over to Pelestine, then Africa and so on? I don´t!!!

Ummm...Palestine and parts of Africa are already war-zones

45 posted on 02/19/2003 8:24:05 AM PST by twyn1 (God Bless America !)
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To: Technoir
Cant you understand that germany has a problem with wars after all the pain the German Naziregime spread over Europeduring WW2?

Can't you remember that it was the USA that bailed your sad asses out of that situation and also spent billions of dollars to rebuild your sorry country and defend it from the Russians? Wake up Fritz!

46 posted on 02/19/2003 8:24:58 AM PST by Don Corleone
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To: BlackJack
"What is certain is that at least eight of these mobile laboratories were delivered from the Federal Republic of Germany to Iraq as late as the end of the eighties,"

How can this guy be "certain" that they were delivered yet, have no idea which year they were delivered in ?

48 posted on 02/19/2003 8:51:10 AM PST by RS
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To: Technoir
"Saddam is a bastard but he didnt attack anyone actually

?????

Can you say Kuwait ?

49 posted on 02/19/2003 8:53:15 AM PST by RS
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To: BlackJack
Attn: World Net Daily has occassionaly broken accurate news, but just as often as not, they have broken "news" that was not accurate.
50 posted on 02/19/2003 8:53:39 AM PST by staytrue
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