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The Chirac-Hussein Connection
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| Feb 19, 2003
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Posted on 02/19/2003 7:25:26 AM PST by Axion
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To: MizSterious
The press will not expose the motives of this functionary of the French/EU apparatus. It undermines their profession's avowed political position.
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posted on
02/19/2003 1:42:41 PM PST
by
KC Burke
To: Axion
"...at the same time, it is inconceivable that this relationship has no effect on Chirac's personal decision-making process..."What a piece of dirt.At least we know where his head is now.He's probably got Billions of dollars invested in Iraq.Which country is going to be next? Don Rumsfeld must've known about this when he referred to France as the 'Old Europe'. Mr. Chirac, should become 'Persona Non Grata' with George W. Bush and soon.
52
posted on
02/19/2003 1:50:55 PM PST
by
Pagey
(Hillary Rotten is a Smug , Holier-Than-Thou Socialist.)
To: Axion
bump
53
posted on
02/19/2003 1:52:13 PM PST
by
Stultis
To: Axion
Bookmarked for reference.
To: Ladysmith
bump and bookmark
55
posted on
02/19/2003 3:05:13 PM PST
by
woofie
To: MizSterious
They don't. It would make the case for the US.
To: Axion
In 1987, the Manchester Guardian Weekly quoted Chirac as saying that he was truly fascinated by Saddam Hussein since 1974. Yeah, the French also had that same fascination with Hitler. Don't be fooled by French propaganda about the French Resistance. There was virtually NO French Resistance until it looked like Germany was going to be defeated. Back in the 1940-1942 period almost all the French were enthusiastic collaborators with the Germans.
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posted on
02/19/2003 3:45:41 PM PST
by
PJ-Comix
(The Early Bird Gets The Early Worm)
To: Axion
Only one good thing about the French---they helped to ruin Disney. Years ago Michael Eisner had the option of locating EuroDisney in either France or Spain. The Spaniards would have LOVED EuroDisney but in an act of complete STUPIDITY, Eisner chose to locate it in the WORST place on the Planet. No one hates Americans more than the French and they have demonstrated that by refusing to patronize EuroDisney.
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posted on
02/19/2003 4:01:37 PM PST
by
PJ-Comix
(The Early Bird Gets The Early Worm)
To: Axion
Wow. I'm really shocked. No, really.
It reached the point that Iranians referred to Chirac as Shah-Iraq and Israelis spoke of the Osirak reactor as O-Chirac.
It appears that "Cherche le juif" is once again official French policy.
59
posted on
02/19/2003 4:49:44 PM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Sorry, the guy who writes my taglines deployed to Qatar.)
To: Axion
Jacques Chirac is demonically possessed. If Hitler was still around, he'd be his ally, too, like he's Saddam's ally.
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posted on
02/19/2003 4:54:20 PM PST
by
tomahawk
To: MizSterious
**Anyone know if any of the major news orgs are covering this yet? Fox probably will. But don't count on anybody else even whispering about it.
Conventional wisdom in the mainstream media is that France, in their resistance to the US "warmongering", is standing on the high ground of principle. That France is really all alone in their pig-headedness and that Chirac might have motive more corrupt than pure would be, ah, "inconvenient".
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posted on
02/19/2003 6:28:25 PM PST
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
To: knighthawk
Thanks for the ping, knighthawk.
Very interesting, to say the least!
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posted on
02/19/2003 6:39:21 PM PST
by
dixiechick2000
(I heart "New" Europe!)
To: dixiechick2000
Good post, this needs to be seen by the FR night readers.
bump
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posted on
02/19/2003 7:38:40 PM PST
by
Ethyl
To: Ethyl
Bump it to the top. Those that work and didn't hear Rush need to know...........
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posted on
02/19/2003 7:44:09 PM PST
by
Ethyl
To: Ethyl
You are right. Great post!
Bump for the night crowd!
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posted on
02/19/2003 7:48:36 PM PST
by
dixiechick2000
(I heart "New" Europe!)
To: Ethyl
A welcome to Free Republic bump!;o)
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posted on
02/19/2003 7:49:51 PM PST
by
dixiechick2000
(I heart "New" Europe!)
To: dixiechick2000
We have got to keep this up, I haven't seen it on the latest posts yet...........BUMPER CROP
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posted on
02/19/2003 7:51:21 PM PST
by
Ethyl
To: Ethyl
Everybody needs to see this, Come on Dixiechick2000 let's do it.
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posted on
02/19/2003 7:53:02 PM PST
by
Ethyl
To: Ethyl
I've got to go, but I can give it one more BTTT!
69
posted on
02/19/2003 7:58:40 PM PST
by
dixiechick2000
(I heart "New" Europe!)
To: dixiechick2000
Thank you for the welcome, Been a lurker for 8 years. How do we get this to the top?
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posted on
02/19/2003 8:00:49 PM PST
by
Ethyl
To: Celtjew Libertarian
"Whatever personal chemistry there might have been between the two leaders obviously remained in place a decade later"
What a revealing article! This bit is what sealed the idea about their 'relationship' for me. Why would someone use the word 'chemistry' if they are just buddies? You don't see this kind of rheotoric used when writers talk about Bush and Blair.
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posted on
02/19/2003 8:15:17 PM PST
by
BossLady
To: dennisw
Strange /sarcasm...I was listening to NPR today at work and they didn't mention anything about this.
Someone said Rush was talking about it. If this is true(and I have no reason to doubt it) it would go a long way toward explaining why the french are acting the way they are.
follow the money follow the money follow the money
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posted on
02/19/2003 8:33:39 PM PST
by
Valin
(Age and Deceit, beat youth and skill)
To: Paul_B
Chirac is covering for Saddam because he doesnt want the Bghdad files revealing how close he has been to this regime .... he better hope we bomb thei Govt ministry buildings thoroughly and burn the papers totally.
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posted on
02/19/2003 9:00:17 PM PST
by
WOSG
To: dennisw
"In 1981, the Israelis destroyed the Iraqi reactor in an air attack. There were rumors - which were denied -- that the French government was offering to rebuild the reactor. In August 1987, French satirical and muckraking magazine, "Le Canard Enchaine" published excerpts of a letter from Chirac to Hussein -- dated June 24, 1987, and hand-delivered by Trade Minister Michel Noir -- which the magazine claimed indicated that he was negotiating to rebuild the Iraqi reactor. The letter says nothing about nuclear reactors, but it does say that Chirac hopes for an agreement "on the negotiation which you know about," and it speaks of the "cooperation launched more than 12 years ago under our personal joint initiative, in this capital district for the sovereignty, independence and security of your country." In the letter, Chirac also, once again, referred to Hussein as "my dear friend." "Chirac and the government confirmed that the letter was genuine. They denied that it referred to rebuilding a nuclear reactor.
"Only two possible conclusions can be drawn from this letter: Chirac either was trying, in the midst of the Iran-Iraq war and after his denial of involvement in the first place, to rebuild Iraq's nuclear capability, or he wasn't. And if he wasn't, what was he doing that required such complex language, clearly intended for deniability if revealed? No ordinary state-to-state relationship would require a combination of affection, recollection of long history and promise for the future without mentioning the subject. If we concede to Chirac that it had nothing to do with nuclear reactors, then the mystery actually deepens."
Worth repeating.
To: Axion
bttt
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posted on
02/19/2003 10:26:09 PM PST
by
ellery
To: Ethyl
"Thank you for the welcome, Been a lurker for 8 years. How do we get this to the top?"LOL I haven't been able to figure that one out since the forum changed! The only suggestion I have is to ping a lot of people.
Glad you finally decided to join. What took you so long?
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posted on
02/19/2003 10:29:13 PM PST
by
dixiechick2000
(I heart "New" Europe!)
To: Shermy
Follow da oil too.
77
posted on
02/19/2003 10:44:11 PM PST
by
mafree
To: MeeknMing; SJackson; madfly
Mega-France Crushing 'Year of the Frog' Ping! I heard Rush read this yesterday. Chirac is in trouble. France will be the laughingstock, much as we were under Clintoon.
To: backhoe; Wallaby; Alamo-Girl
Major ping! Want to wipe some France off your shoe?
To: michaelt
"I believe Rush just mentioned this."
Yes indeed! I hope that doesn't mean it should be buried. Heck, Rush often reports things that no one else bothers with. Remember his warnings about SUVs?
To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I guess my age is showing- I continue to be amazed at how dense people are about such things... fear & greed are basic human motivators-- another way to put that is "fear & money."
The fear factor is all those "unassimilated" Muslims France so foolishly allowed inside their borders- and who now constitute a guerilla army they have no hold over... and the money? Well, that's so obvious it needs no commentary...
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posted on
02/20/2003 3:30:39 AM PST
by
backhoe
(Has that "Clinton Legacy" made you feel safer yet?)
To: Arthur Wildfire! March
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posted on
02/20/2003 4:50:04 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye SADdam. You're soon to meet your buddy Stalin in Hades.)
To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Thanks for the ping. I suspect this won't be the last French embarassement.
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posted on
02/20/2003 5:09:23 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
bump
To: knighthawk
The Iraqis purchased a 70-megawatt reactor, along with six charges of 26 points of uranium enriched to 93 percent -- in other words, enough weapons-grade uranium to produce three to four nuclear devices.So, being that a reactor holds only one charge at a time, and one may have been destroyed, where are the other 5 charges? Clearly enough for 3 nukes. This is pretty clear evidence that the media's statements that "Iraq has the equiptment and the know-how to make nukes but not the enriched uranium" are just to keep the sheeple sleeping. Here is clear evidence that Iraq bought weapons grade uranium from the French.
Earlier, when Giscard dEstaing found out about the deal -- and particularly about the sale of 93 percent uranium -- he had ordered the French nuclear research facility at Saclay to develop an alternative that would take care of Iraqs legitimate needs, but without supplying weapons-grade uranium. The product, called caramel, was only 3 percent enriched but entirely suitable to non-weapons needs. The French made the offer, which Iraq declined.
So the French went AHEAD with the deal?! There is a smoking gun, and it is French made, and the French cannot even deny they knew the uranium was for bombs not the reactor!!!
Obviously we knew about all this before Gulf one, my guess is that we have been hoping Sadam could restrain himself from using WMD against anybody except his own people. But the use of Anthrax inside Americas borders show that he is willing to use WMD against America.
The texican statement to this would be "draw pardner", cause this world is not big enough for the both of us...
To: headsonpikes
bump to the top!
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posted on
02/20/2003 12:16:42 PM PST
by
timestax
To: surelyclintonsbaddream
Ping!
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posted on
02/20/2003 1:55:25 PM PST
by
scott7278
(Peace had it's chance, now it's bombs away!)
To: Howlin; Liz; Mudboy Slim
Info bump...
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