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Joseph's Tomb Gravestone Destroyed
Arutz Sheva ^
| 1-20-03
Posted on 02/21/2003 5:07:58 AM PST by SJackson
The Arab destruction of Joseph's Tomb is practically complete. Some time in the past two weeks, Arab vandals hacked away at the large two-meter stone marking the gravesite of the Biblical figure, leaving barely more than a pile of rubble.
Chief IDF Rabbi Brig.-Gen. Yisrael Weiss recently visited the site in Shechem, and discussed its current sorry state with regional IDF commanders. The tomb, under Israeli jurisdiction according to the Oslo Accords, was taken over by Arab mobs when the PLO initiated its ongoing terrorist war.
The Moslem occupiers initially desecrated Joseph's monument and destroyed religious books inside the tomb compound, before proclaiming it a mosque. It was liberated by the IDF during last April's Operation Defensive Shield. Currently, even though Israeli authority has been restored to the site, no Israeli worshipers are allowed to visit, and the holy site is not regularly guarded. Several members of the Chassidic Breslover sect have been arrested attempting to reach the tomb, although many have successfully reached it.
The Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva, located for many years at the holy site, issued a press release demanding the "immediate safeguarding of Yosef's Tomb by the IDF, the ability to worship there again, and the return, finally, of Yeshivat Od Yosef Chai, which was expelled from there at the outbreak of the current Oslo War."
TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
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posted on
02/21/2003 5:07:58 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
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posted on
02/21/2003 5:08:18 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
even though Israeli authority has been restored to the site, no Israeli worshipers are allowed to visit, and the holy site is not regularly guarded. Several members of the Chassidic Breslover sect have been arrested attempting to reach the tomb, although many have successfully reached it. Can you imagine the outcry if Muslims were turned away from praying at Al-Aqsa? Where is B'tselem now?
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posted on
02/21/2003 5:11:45 AM PST
by
Alouette
To: SJackson
Religion of Peace
To: SJackson
Hey Pope whadya think of the Religion of Peace now?
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posted on
02/21/2003 5:49:43 AM PST
by
oline
To: SJackson
Gosh, not sure which I would vote for at this juncture if it was put to a vote, e.g., Ethenic or Religious Cleaning of the entire body responsible for this affront to the senesibilities of people everywhere. As intolerant as the muslims under PA rule have become, it is apparent that only when they become past tense will they stop.
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posted on
02/21/2003 5:51:45 AM PST
by
Jumper
To: oline
He doesn't care. He has long since stopped helping the causes of freedom. Has he really done anything major in the last ten years?
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posted on
02/21/2003 5:53:19 AM PST
by
Sinner6
(Communism is a cancer)
To: SJackson
Nuke Mecca
NOW!
I'm getting tired of these diaperheads continually desecrating Judaeo-Christian holy sites (Not to mention Bhuddist sites as well)
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:03:17 AM PST
by
peteram
(Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it)
To: SJackson
And while we're at it, do something about that Dome of the Rock monstrosity.
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:08:25 AM PST
by
peteram
(Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it)
To: Sinner6
What a bunch of crap. Do some research and learn something.
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:19:04 AM PST
by
Pugsy
To: SJackson
BTTT from a Catholic.
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:21:15 AM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: peteram
(Not to mention Bhuddist sites as well) Don't forget Hindu.
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:24:03 AM PST
by
StriperSniper
(Frogs are for gigging)
To: Sinner6
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:24:29 AM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: SJackson
The epitome of Muslim ignorance! Joseph save Egypt's survival once upon a time, with his "7 years fat, 7 years lean" vision for the future. Ignorant ingrates, indeed!!!
"Vengance is mine, saith the Lord."
Well, Lord, how long must we wait?
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:37:01 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(Snap Out Of It, CA!!! Be Courageous! It's Contageous! Zap Zany Gray!!!)
To: SJackson
"If this isn't evil, then evil has no meaning!" (President George W. Bush)
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:43:20 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(Snap Out Of It, CA!!! Be Courageous! It's Contageous! Zap Zany Gray!!!)
To: SJackson
Earlier this week the Israeli press reported that the PLO has said that when it takes over completely it won't allow Jews to pray at the tomb of Rachel, on the outskirts of Bethlehem. (This was coyly phrased by describing the tomb of Rachel as a mosque -- the Arabs won't allow anyone but Moslems to pray at a mosque). Rachel isn't even part of Islamic lore but the Arabs are determined to deny access to her resting place to Jews. This despite Arafat's personal promise, about 9 years ago when Bethlehem was turned over to the PA, that Rachel's Tomb would be protected.
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:48:43 AM PST
by
DonQ
To: SierraWasp; Salvation; StriperSniper; Pugsy; peteram; Jumper; Sinner6; oline; Alouette; ...
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posted on
02/21/2003 6:55:00 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
The 2nd, 3rd and 4th pictures aren't coming through on my browse.
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posted on
02/21/2003 7:07:54 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!!)
To: SierraWasp
They're coming through OK on mine. Here are the locations. http://www.geocities.com/rachav/mosqueJos.jpg
Building the mosque
http://www.geocities.com/rachav/Josephtmbv11.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/rachav/PLOdestroy.jpg
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posted on
02/21/2003 7:11:38 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
That's sickening. If the Palies had their choice, there'd be no Jews left in Israel ("from the river to the sea") or Christians--except the ones they keep around as handy stooges.
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posted on
02/21/2003 7:17:08 AM PST
by
Catspaw
To: SJackson
Yahoo/Geocities doesn't allow linking of images on their server to external sites. You can see it because it's in your browser cache.
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posted on
02/21/2003 7:22:43 AM PST
by
Alouette
To: Alouette
Thanks, didnt know that. Heres one from a different site. Cant find a big pic of the mosque.
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posted on
02/21/2003 7:33:43 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
Joseph, son of Jacob (Israel), son of Isaac, sone of Abraham.
Ishmael, "unchosen" son of Abraham, father of the uncountable multitudes of Islam.
Now back to desecrate the grave of his nephew.
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posted on
02/21/2003 7:37:59 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: SJackson
Well, time to destroy a Muslim holy site.
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posted on
02/21/2003 7:38:55 AM PST
by
MEGoody
To: SJackson
I have a question.
Why is it the IDF can keep jews from reaching the tomb to worship, but they can't keep vandals away from it?
To: peteram
I agree. An eye for an eye! Take Mecca and Medina.
To: Pugsy
For example his sending an envoy to Iraq not so long ago really shows his commitment to freedom.
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posted on
02/21/2003 7:56:10 AM PST
by
Sinner6
(Communism is a cancer)
To: Salvation
So your suggesting I ask him how great he is?
If I came off like I hated the guy I am sorry. He has done some great things, example helping Poland escape communism, but I just don't see him doing that kind anymore.
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posted on
02/21/2003 8:00:21 AM PST
by
Sinner6
(Communism is a cancer)
To: SierraWasp
The epitome of Muslim ignorance! Joseph save Egypt's survival once upon a time, with his "7 years fat, 7 years lean" vision for the future. Ignorant ingrates, indeed!!! There is reason to think that Joseph and the great vizier Imhotep who served the pharoah Djoser were the same person. The stories surrounding the two are nearly identical. Nobody ever used to connect the two because they were supposed to have lived centuries apart, but those chronologies are currently being revised.
Basically, the Egyptians have as much of a stake in this one as Jews do.
To: SierraWasp
Funny thing is that those pictures (posting 16, numbers 2,3, & 4) also don't appear on my video while browsing ... but they do print out in hardcopy and they do show up when I opt for File>Print Preview. I am too computer illiterate to understand why this is happening.
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posted on
02/21/2003 8:28:36 AM PST
by
DonQ
To: Sinner6
You are correct about Poland.
I think this Pope will go down in history as a fence-mender. (At least with the other branches of the Catholic faith.) But basically throughout the entire world. Think of his travels.
Admittedly some people disicount this and say the Pope might have been home minding the sexual upheaval within the Catholic Church. It is an arguable point.
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posted on
02/21/2003 8:46:16 AM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: DonQ
If there is a little red box in the upper left hand corner sometimes I do a right click on it > Select "Show picture" and Voila!
And then sometimes it doesn't work.
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posted on
02/21/2003 8:47:59 AM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: SJackson
So sad to see these Christian relics destroyed like this.
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posted on
02/21/2003 8:53:04 AM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: sharktrager
Why is it the IDF can keep jews from reaching the tomb to worship, but they can't keep vandals away from it? It's not under IDF control anymore, the PA takes care of ongoing "security". Most of the destruction took place when the IDF withdrew.
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posted on
02/21/2003 8:58:18 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
Of 394 News Photos on Yahoo Mideast slideshow, there is not ONE single picture of Joseph's Tomb, but Yassin and the blckmasks show up every where. That's not to mention the usual gratuitous pics of women walking, teenagers climbing down cliffs to bypass roadblocks, and the poor, oppressed Palestinians led by a murderous spiritual leader marching, begging Saddam to bomb them, then demanding Israel to protect them. It's mind boggling.
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posted on
02/21/2003 3:41:38 PM PST
by
Nix 2
(In G-d's time, not mine.)
To: Nix 2; Alouette; Always Right; oline; Jumper; Sinner6; peteram; Pugsy; Salvation; StriperSniper; ...
In case anyone is interested, sorry for any dupes from another thread.
WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO PROTECT OUR HOLY SITES?
(In view of Moslem contempt for Jewish and Christian Holy Places.) Ruth Matar interviews:
Morton Klein, President of ZOA (Zionist Organization of America)
and
Jodie Anderson, President of Deborah's Battalion
Wednesday, February 26, 2003 between 9-10 P.M. (Israel Time)
Arutz 7 - 98.7 FM and 1539 AM and
LIVE On Internet: http://www.israelnationalnews.com
In the US, 2-3 PM Eastern
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posted on
02/25/2003 3:32:38 PM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
Thank you, SJackson!
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posted on
02/25/2003 4:42:04 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!!)
To: SJackson
I guess you can tell from my scream name, I ain't exactly a zionist, right? (grin)
Whatever, I ain't a Catholic neither, but I can recognize slovenly savages when they act out like the biggest fools in history!!!
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posted on
02/25/2003 4:46:53 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!!)
To: SJackson
Just f*****' pathetic.If we were to desecrate a sacred Moose-lim site, they'd have kittens. Yet for them to go after Christian/Jewish sites is supposed to be OK?
Religion of peace my foot.
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posted on
02/25/2003 4:50:22 PM PST
by
mhking
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