posted on 02/23/2003 12:27:57 AM PST
To: Stavka2; crazykatz; wildandcrazyrussian; MarMema; The_Reader_David
posted on 02/23/2003 12:34:02 AM PST
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I have heard that Prostants converting to Orthodoxy is a big trend now in theological circles. People fed up with how liberal mainline protestants have become, but cannot quite bring themselves to become Catholic, become Orthodox.
It's a strange country we live in.
Having heard Frank (I still want to call him Franky) speak on several occasions, I'm sure this will be an interesting and though-provoking talk. He's long been a strong voice for the pro-life viewpoint, whether as a Presbyterian or Orthodox Christian. I would encourage all to have their church rent his film series "Whatever Happened to the Human Race?"
To: Destro; MarMema; RnMomof7
Interesting. I didn't know Schaffer's son went Orthodox. Given what his father preached, I can't be surprised.
The Orthodox have been on a bit of a roll in recent years even though they're not particularly well-known for proselytizing. I think most of their growth is ex-RCs fleeing the Roman church's pedophiles and theological scandals.
Bravo! I will certainly buy Dancing Alone
I've toyed with the idea of writing my own book to explain to charismatics why traditional, liturgical worship can be more fulfilling than "praise gatherings."
I'd love to use this occasion to have a dialogue with other Christian FReepers about the merits of traditional, patristic, confessional, (small "c") catholic faith and liturgical worship. Anyone interested?
I was raised Methodist, got born again and "spirit-filled" in the '70s, then became a Missouri Synod Lutheran in the 80s. What I have come to appreciate about historical Christianity since is very profound, IMO. I have a suspicion that many FReepers would, by inclination, really appreciate these truths as well, if only they were exposed to them.
I was into Francis Schaeffer when I was a charismatic, and the last book by Franky that I bought was his Christian Manifesto. Really liked it, but I haven't followed him since. Very cool that he's gone Orthodox! Things aren't going well in the Missouri Synod at present (thanks to the libs,) and, when I become frustrated, I toy with the idea of going Orthodox. Their worship practices are simply stunning. Very deep, engaging and, I would bet, fulfilling. Fortunately, my present church is going in the right direction, so I still have a church home where I and my family are fed and fulfilled.
This book was very helpful to me:
It came out about the time I was discovering historic Christianity. Amazon.com shows several other related works, Crossing the Tiber: Evangelical Protestants Discover the Historical Church, and Evangelicals on the Canterbury Trail: Why Evangelicals Are Attracted to the Liturgical Church.
This should be interesting. If more people today were to read the writings of Ephraem the Syrian (not Psuedo-Ephraem) they would be surprised at how different, not to say alien, they are when compared to the New Testament. Things took a radical turn after the first century.
posted on 02/23/2003 5:45:41 PM PST
"While other faiths have changed over the years, the Orthodox tradition has remained the same, he said..."
I'm not trying to put anyone down, maybe somebody out here can answer this:
How is it that a form of christianity that considers itself in "original" form squares the obsession with images (icons) in worship with the the abhorrance of images in worship common among the Jews who were the "founders of christianity?
All well and good about Schaeffer and his beliefs about Christianity. As an Orthodox myself however I am frankly disappointed that the Greek Orthodox Archbishop did not offer a proclamation on the Sanctity of Life Day this year or any year. Why doesn't the Orthodox Orthodox speak out against legalized infanticide? If this isn't the moral question for our times what is?
I have asked and I keep getting told that we will bring it up at the Synod meeting bla bla...
One more thing - the Orthodox Church is honoring Sarbanes, senator from Maryland - a Demorat - who vote FOR partial birth abortion. Does that make sense?
posted on 02/24/2003 7:49:45 PM PST
This is great stuff, very inspiring, even for a lapsed Orthodox Christian like me. The faith of converts to Orthodoxy is a sight to behold. They are so informed and passionate. It puts things into perspective. Thanks for posting!
posted on 02/25/2003 4:47:11 PM PST
posted on 02/25/2003 6:25:38 PM PST
by Bob J
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I love Francis Schaeffer but I wish he'd homeschooled his son.
posted on 08/31/2003 12:15:11 PM PDT
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