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What will they say when the dungeons are opened?
Freedom Institute ^ | 02/23/2003 | Mitchell Solomon

Posted on 02/23/2003 2:14:29 AM PST by freeasinbeer


What will they say when the dungeons are opened?

written by Mitchell Solomon

As the clock ticks down to what appears to be an inevitable military take down of the Iraqi regime the worldly sophisticates in France and Germany, just to name two, have decided that under no circumstances can there be any justification for an American led attack on Saddam and his cruel henchmen. Leave aside for the moment the utter hypocrisy of France, who thinks nothing of sending it’s army and mercenaries into African countries without even as much as notice to their beloved United Nations, or the memory-deficient Germans, who obviously have forgotten the fact that Americans liberated them from some of the last century’s worst tyranny and rebuilt their nation, while in all honesty they had every right to leave them shattered and prone. No, I don’t tax the capabilities of a single brain cell wondering how they can justify their immoral position. What I wonder about, and can’t wait to see, is how they will react, how they will explain themselves, how they will criticize America, when the gates of Saddam’s houses of horror are opened before the eyes of the world.

America’s so-called allies make self-satisfying noises about the harm that may come to the Iraqi people during a military campaign. I wonder how they will explain their position to the inmates of Saddam’s children’s prisons, the ones where opponents’ family members are incarcerated in conditions so miserable that even the apologist Scott Ritter can’t bring himself to describe them? How will my own nation, Canada, ever expect to have any moral credibility on the world stage after American Marines show the world the vats of acid men were lowered into simply for the crime of speaking out against the Butcher of Baghdad? We say we care about the United Nations and its legitimacy. Where is the legitimacy in a world body constituted to improve the plight of humankind that makes excuses for a regime that has violated every tenet of civilized behavior that the talking heads in New York and Geneva were supposed to uphold? You know the answer; they have no legitimacy. From the pending genocide in Zimbabwe to the torture cells of Tikrit, the burghers by the river see nothing, nothing that is except the wailing from the families of the Shaheeds in Ramallah, oh how must they be protected from the criminal Jews, who in fact make up the only nation in the Middle East that has ever been half serious about helping the Palestinians build their own state.

In 1945 the world recoiled at the sight of Hitler’s factories of death. We will see scenes in Iraq that will remind us of those awful days, soon dear reader, very soon. Torture, deprivation, starvation, and programs to create the most sinister weapons the world has seen, all collected in one state. No, not weapons designed to defeat an army, not weapons designed to liberate or protect, but weapons of mass murder and mayhem, pointed at us, at them, and most tellingly, the very citizens of that tortured nation. How sophisticated will you look then, oh France? What phony moral authority will you then dredge up to preach to the world about the pushy Americans? How will you, united and free Germany, explain the discovery that for the past decade you’ve illegally rearmed and traded with the Mesopotamian murderer? We’ll see how high your head is held when we see Satan’s handiwork again, but this time in full digital color, not the detached and surreal black and white of the 1940’s that makes it so easy to believe that it was from a distant, no foreign, time and place.

When the sons and daughters of that shining city on the hill prevail, and make no mistake, they will prevail, America will have the unquestionable authority to declare that never again will it give a moment’s concern to the whims and objections of the moral midgets that worship at the altar of collectivism. America should follow up their success in Iraq with the simple yet powerfully symbolic act of striking from the NATO Charter Article 5, that section which commits all to defend one. Naturally, America can and likely will always save the neck of any free people threatened by tyranny, but why, please, should those that would deny liberty to the prisoners we call Iraqi citizens have any assurance that they themselves would not be abandoned by an indifferent world?

Yes, the clouds of war once again drift toward the Fertile Crescent, propelled, not impeded, by the appeasement that gives the tyrant confidence he will again survive. The fallen one again stalks the lands of antiquity. Yet the continent of the Enlightenment, that likes to boast of their grand civilization, sees only a determined America, wounded by a body blow but on its feet and on the hunt, and declares “You must not act! Iraq’s leadership is for Iraqis to decide!” as if a starving and brutalized Iraq can actually rise up against Saddam’s mechanics of murder. Once again, the Land of Liberty sees what Europe can not, and offers it’s precious sons and daughters, its’ truly greatest treasure, to drive the devil back to the fires of hell from whence he came.

Meanwhile, in France they buy books claiming the Americans killed their own on that horrible day in 2001. In Germany, they ridicule the nation that paid with so much blood for their freedom. And in Canada, here, in the one nation that should know better, where we can see the glory of America up close, rest peacefully in our beds protected by her mighty sword, and know better than any that America seeks not to conquer, but to free and protect, we watch an arrogant and petty man who calls himself a leader single-handedly trash the closest friendship between nations that history has ever seen.

So I ask again: What will they say when the dungeons are opened? What will they say to the Iraqi mothers who wonder why it took so long? What will they say when the fathers of murdered children ask why they opposed liberty? What will they say? What will WE say? Indeed.


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1 posted on 02/23/2003 2:14:29 AM PST by freeasinbeer
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To: freeasinbeer
"Vive le France"?
2 posted on 02/23/2003 2:30:58 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: freeasinbeer
So I ask again: What will they say when the dungeons are opened?

The same thing they said when the Soviet Union collapsed into the dustbin of history -- nothing. No mea culpas, no apologies, no admission of being wrong. They will use 101% of their energy to "prove" that each and every atrocity was caused by "US imperialism" or "unilateral thinking" or "big oil interests."

I hope nobody on our side is holding their breath, wating for "vindication." Because you'll never get it. There's only the next battle waiting after this one.

4 posted on 02/23/2003 2:42:19 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: freeasinbeer
What will they say when the dungeons are opened?

Not a damn thing. They'll hang their heads and say " who me ? I was all for getting rid of Saddam The whole time." In a year you'll be able to find more people who will admit they voted for Jimmy Carter ( i've only ever met one ) than were against the war. Those who are on record as antis will try and lie their way out of it by saying things like "that's not what I meant" or "that's not what I said". We now have them on tape, the web, and transcripts. All they will have for their defense are lame Democrat talking points that aren't even about the subject, their own all spin zone.

5 posted on 02/23/2003 2:47:34 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Jimmy Carter was the last dem my father ever voted for...he will admit it...and i voted for Perot...we all make mistakes!! forgive me!!! ;)
6 posted on 02/23/2003 2:51:09 AM PST by chasio649
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To: LdSentinal
They will say it's a set-up. They will say any weapons we find were planted. You are dealing with the OJ jury here. No amount of evidence will convince them. They side with the tyrants and dictators, and we will get no credit whatsoever. They just hate America and that's all there is to it.
7 posted on 02/23/2003 3:42:26 AM PST by veronica
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To: freeasinbeer
Those who defend Iraq's "sovereignty" are much less concerned with the quality of its "sovereign" than they are with obstructing the United States. There's hardly a one of them who's been willing to confront the objective evidence of Saddam Hussein's atrocities. They're united in denying that his regime has any connection to Islamic terrorism, despite his unabashed announcement that he would pay blood money to the families of Palestinian "martyrs."

These people have two desires: to see the United States thwarted, and to see Israel, the only democratic state in the Middle East, fall to its Islamic enemies. They will defend any force that appears capable of helping with those aims.

Why? Pure hatred?

I've racked my brain searching for an alternative explanation. Claims that the United States is to blame for Saddam's behavior are too obviously the reflexive emissions of people who would blame us for the monsoons in India, if they could. Claims that Israel "discriminates" against the Palestinians are absurd, especially in comparison to the carnival of death the Palestinians have inflicted both on the Israelis and their own, pitifully few dissidents.

When the "reasons" advanced are of this quality, you're not dealing with reason at all. What remains to be discovered is how they came by their antipathy to the only state in history formed as a refuge for a horribly tortured people, and to the only power in the history of the world that lifts up a fallen enemy and leaves him stronger than before.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason:
http://palaceofreason.com

8 posted on 02/23/2003 3:48:28 AM PST by fporretto (Curmudgeon Emeritus, Palace of Reason)
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To: freeasinbeer
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9 posted on 02/23/2003 4:03:44 AM PST by RippleFire (Hold mein bier!)
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To: veronica
The Bush administration is smarter than that-- the Pentagon is sending in 500 reporters from all kinds of news organizations, embedded in all sorts of units, with the troops. Checkmate.
10 posted on 02/23/2003 4:20:17 AM PST by walden
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To: fporretto
"Claims that the United States is to blame for Saddam's behavior are too obviously the reflexive emissions of people who would blame us for the monsoons in India..."

Heh--if the US is to blame for Saddam, then WHY are the antis complaining if it decides to FIX that mistake??

11 posted on 02/23/2003 4:23:33 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: freeasinbeer
I agree with the moral outrage of this article and wish the USA would channel the same outrage less selectively. No doubt China has weapons of mass destruction trained on us, too, and yet we do billions of dollars of busness with them. That too is wrong, I think. We should fight Iraq, but we should also give France and Germany no moral quarter, and that means we should end any of our own practices of empowering dictatorships through trade.
12 posted on 02/23/2003 4:30:24 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: freeasinbeer
What will they say when the dungeons are opened?

Undoubtedly every jailed Iraqi criminal will be counted and double-counted as a "political" prisoner.

13 posted on 02/23/2003 4:35:06 AM PST by palmer (receive this important and informative post - FREE)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I voted for Carter in 1976 partly because I thought it was the only way to clean house after Watergate. But I certainly did NOT vote for Carter in 1980 - I voted for Reagan, thank GOD.
14 posted on 02/23/2003 5:21:37 AM PST by libertylover
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To: Cincinatus
What will they say when the dungeons are opened?
The same thing they said when the Soviet Union collapsed into the dustbin of history -- nothing. No mea culpas, no apologies, no admission of being wrong. They will use 101% of their energy to "prove" that each and every atrocity was caused by "US imperialism" or "unilateral thinking" or "big oil interests" simply change the subject.

It is the PR power of journalism--not love--which means "never having to say you're sorry."

15 posted on 02/23/2003 5:27:16 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: freeasinbeer
the clouds of war once again drift toward the Fertile Crescent, propelled, not impeded, by the appeasement that gives the tyrant confidence he will again survive.
16 posted on 02/23/2003 5:30:00 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: freeasinbeer
Supposedly, they and others are too busy setting up and guarding dungeons in the USA for the next global tyranny.

And Billdo and Shrillary sped the process along wholesale . . . evidently.

But I'd better not get too long about it.
17 posted on 02/23/2003 5:32:21 AM PST by Quix (HOW MANY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING THE WARNING CHAPTERS IN RELIGION FORUM?)
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To: freeasinbeer
The left will probably say: "They werent political prisoners...they were getting treated for mental health problems"

As sure as the sun comes up every day...the lefties will make up some reason...some excuse
18 posted on 02/23/2003 5:44:52 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (I Wonder What Susan Sarandon Looks Like In A Burqa?)
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To: freeasinbeer
Bump

great article
19 posted on 02/23/2003 5:50:44 AM PST by JZoback
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee; harpseal; Fred Mertz; Wally Cleaver; Lion Den Dan; Jeff Head; logos; ...
BTTT
20 posted on 02/23/2003 5:51:20 AM PST by SLB
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To: freeasinbeer
There are some who have already made public spectacles of themselves in all this. Miss Germany, Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson, Susan Sarandon, and others. With the exception of Miss Germany, the others all have willing accomplises in the media who will do everything in their power to sweep all this under the rug. France and Russia's America hating populace will just go on believing this was all a plant by the US to cover ourselves. The Germans, Canadians, English, Americans, and all the other's protesting populace will all fall back on, "aw, it was just a fad to protest America at the time."
21 posted on 02/23/2003 5:53:45 AM PST by swampmonster
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; freeasinbeer
Sadly, they have no sense of shame, which seems to be a common affliction these days. They will change the subject or dismiss it out of hand as irrelevant.

UCFRoadWarrior, the answer to your tag line is ... better.

22 posted on 02/23/2003 5:55:38 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: freeasinbeer
UNSCR 688 (UN Resolution 688) “condemns” Saddam Hussein’s repression of the Iraqi civilian population -- “the consequences of which threaten international peace and security.” UNSCR 688 also requires Saddam Hussein to end his repression of the Iraqi people and to allow immediate access to international humanitarian organizations to help those in need of assistance.

Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated these provisions and has: expanded his violence against women and children; continued his horrific torture and execution of innocent Iraqis; continued to violate the basic human rights of the Iraqi people and has continued to control all sources of information (including killing more than 500 journalists and other opinion leaders in the past decade).

Saddam Hussein has also harassed humanitarian aid workers; expanded his crimes against Muslims; he has withheld food from families that fail to offer their children to his regime; and he has continued to subject Iraqis to unfair imprisonment.10

REFUSAL TO ADMIT HUMAN RIGHTS MONITORS

§ The UN Commission on Human Rights and the UN General Assembly issued a report that noted "with dismay" the lack of improvement in the situation of human rights in Iraq. The report strongly criticized the "systematic, widespread, and extremely grave violations of human rights" and of international humanitarian law by the Iraqi Government, which it stated resulted in "all-pervasive repression and oppression sustained by broad-based discrimination and widespread terror." The report called on the Iraqi Government to fulfill its obligations under international human rights treaties. § Saddam Hussein has repeatedly refused visits by human rights monitors and the establishment of independent human rights organizations.

From 1992 until 2002, Saddam prevented the UN Special Rapporteur from visiting Iraq.11 § In September 2001 the Government expelled six UN humanitarian relief workers without providing any explanation.12

VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN

§ Human rights organizations and opposition groups continued to receive reports of women who suffered from severe psychological trauma after being raped by Iraqi personnel while in custody.13 § Former Mukhabarat member Khalid Al-Janabi reported that a Mukhabarat unit, the Technical Operations Directorate, used rape and sexual assault in a systematic and institutionalized manner for political purposes. The unit reportedly also videotaped the rape of female relatives of suspected oppositionists and used the videotapes for blackmail purposes and to ensure their future cooperation.§ In June 2000, a former Iraqi general reportedly received a videotape of security forces raping a female family member. He subsequently received a telephone call from an intelligence agent who stated that another female relative was being held and warned him to stop speaking out against the Iraqi Government.15

§ Iraqi security forces allegedly raped women who were captured during the Anfal Campaign and during the occupation of Kuwait. 16

§ Amnesty International reported that, in October 2000, the Iraqi Government executed dozens of women accused of prostitution.17

§ In May, the Iraqi Government reportedly tortured to death the mother of three Iraqi defectors for her children’s opposition activities.18

§ Iraqi security agents reportedly decapitated numerous women and men in front of their family members. According to Amnesty International, the victims’ heads were displayed in front of their homes for several days.

19 TORTURE § Iraqi security services routinely and systematically torture detainees. According to former prisoners, torture techniques included branding, electric shocks administered to the genitals and other areas, beating, pulling out of fingernails, burning with hot irons and blowtorches, suspension from rotating ceiling fans, dripping acid on the skin, rape, breaking of limbs, denial of food and water, extended solitary confinement in dark and extremely small compartments, and threats to rape or otherwise harm family members and relatives. Evidence of such torture often was apparent when security forces returned the mutilated bodies of torture victims to their families.20

§ According to a report received by the UN Special Rapporteur in 1998, hundreds of Kurds and other detainees have been held without charge for close to two decades in extremely harsh conditions, and many of them have been used as subjects in Iraq’s illegal experimental chemical and biological weapons programs.21

§ In 2000, the authorities reportedly introduced tongue amputation as a punishment for persons who criticize Saddam Hussein or his family, and on July 17, government authorities reportedly amputated the tongue of a person who allegedly criticized Saddam Hussein. Authorities reportedly performed the amputation in front of a large crowd. Similar tongue amputations also reportedly occurred.22

23 posted on 02/23/2003 5:58:40 AM PST by ez (WHERE'S THE POLLING DATA ON THE ESTRADA FILIBUSTER???)
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To: ez
This could be ANY dictatorship. We should take them all down.
24 posted on 02/23/2003 6:25:01 AM PST by illumini
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To: NonValueAdded
Sadly, they have no sense of shame, which seems to be a common affliction these days.

Right on the money, NVA! Shame today is in short supply and should be in high demand!

25 posted on 02/23/2003 6:32:46 AM PST by WIladyconservative
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To: freeasinbeer
Will the commie media whores even acknowlege that "they were wrong on Iraq and Islamic terrorism"? doubtfull

Anything we do find...any incrimnation of the Euro trash variety...will it be denied as a plot of The Bush Administration to justify going after more terrorists....and of course oil?

Cant imagine the truth ever shutting these bastardos up

26 posted on 02/23/2003 6:45:11 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: chasio649
Jimmy Carter was the last dem my father ever voted for...he will admit it...

But did he correct his mistake in 1980 by voting for Ronald Reagan?

27 posted on 02/23/2003 7:23:55 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: freeasinbeer
France and Germany, just to name two, have decided that under no circumstances can there be any justification for an American led attack on Saddam and his cruel henchmen.

Gee whiz...I wonder why France is so gung ho in the cause of Iraq??


Sadaam in France 1975 - Far right, then PM Chirac

The results of France's last bout with shortsightedness concerning Iraq:


The Tammuz1 nuclear reactor BEFORE Sadaam threatened to destroy Israel


The Tammuz1 nuclear reactor AFTER

George W. Bush to the children of Ilan Ramon, "Your father started the job...I will finish it."

28 posted on 02/23/2003 7:57:28 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ()
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To: illumini
This could be ANY dictatorship. We should take them all down.

That would be the American way, yes. You know government of the people, by the people, and for the people and all that...

Either you believe cruel and unusual punishment is immoral or you do not. Either you believe in free elections by people free from government terror or you do not. Either you believe that humans were endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, or you do not.

Would I spread those things to every corner of the globe if I could? You betcha...

29 posted on 02/23/2003 8:03:41 AM PST by ez (WHERE'S THE POLLING DATA ON THE ESTRADA FILIBUSTER???)
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To: freeasinbeer
I don't care what they have to say except in front of a War Crimes Tribunal. Putin, Chirac, et al, can defend themselves just like Himmler, Goebbels etc, did during the Nuremberg Trials.
30 posted on 02/23/2003 8:08:06 AM PST by marty60
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To: freeasinbeer
I love good writing. I thought skills like this were long lost.
31 posted on 02/23/2003 8:21:35 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: freeasinbeer
BTT
32 posted on 02/23/2003 9:02:26 AM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: swampmonster
The Germans, Canadians, English, Americans, and all the other's protesting populace will all fall back on, "aw, it was just a fad to protest America at the time."

I doubt they'll even concede that much. Consider that even in America those who protested the Vietnam war have, with the full cooperation of the mainstream media and many other institutions, consistently taken unalloyed pride in their actions, and still do to this day, never minding the millions of South Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotins murdered, tortured and emprisoned by the communists as a consequence of America's withdrawl.

33 posted on 02/23/2003 10:38:25 AM PST by Stultis
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To: freeasinbeer
Thanks for posting this. If you weren't aware, it started life as a vanity thread here two weeks ago. It's also been published on www.efreedomnews.com.

I love this place :-)

34 posted on 02/23/2003 12:40:15 PM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: Paleo Conservative
yes sir he did...voted straight republican ever since.
35 posted on 02/23/2003 4:00:34 PM PST by chasio649
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To: freeasinbeer
I admit I quit reading this after the author spelled "its" wrong.
36 posted on 02/23/2003 5:02:58 PM PST by sam_paine
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To: sam_paine
You are more than welcome to contact the website that I got this from and point this out. I didn't have time to go through the whole article and do spelling/grammer checks.
37 posted on 02/23/2003 6:52:47 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conservative by 40, you have no brain.)
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To: freeasinbeer
No critique of you intended, of course. I just wonder how much thought someone has put into an article that doesn't check themselves first...
38 posted on 02/23/2003 7:35:15 PM PST by sam_paine
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To: freeasinbeer
oh wow... wonderful.
39 posted on 02/23/2003 7:39:45 PM PST by Tamzee (There are 10 types of people... those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: sam_paine
I agree. Little things like that shouldn't get by people who intend to write for a living.
40 posted on 02/23/2003 8:01:52 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conservative by 40, you have no brain.)
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To: Tamsey
I love your signature, funny for a geek like me...
41 posted on 02/23/2003 8:02:21 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conservative by 40, you have no brain.)
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To: freeasinbeer
What will they say?

God Bless America . . . Hey, man, we were just, like, kidding. Land that I love. Stand beside her and . . . what's the rest of the song? Where's my flag?

Apologies to egomaniacal traitors are as foreign to Hollyweird elites as is morality and patriotism and worshipping anywhere else but in front of a mirror. They'll spin ever so eloquently like their hero Pee Wee Clinton and the media will soak it up with orgasmic glee. They're stars! They're stars!

It might've worked in times past but you guys, my fellow FReepers, have convinced a cynical old redneck that those who care the most do have a chance of righting wrongs.

I think they've do-do'ed in their own sandbox this time. With the internet and sites like Free Republic, us silent majority-types won't be in a forgiving mood.

Can you say Hanoi Jane? How about Saddam Sarandon? Or Baghdad Baldwin? Or Koran Kennedy? Or Sheryl Aziz? Or Tariq Garofalo? My fellow FReepers are much more creative than moi and I suspect we won't let the their actions be easily forgotten.

42 posted on 02/23/2003 8:44:25 PM PST by geedee
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To: freeasinbeer; sam_paine
Sorry, guys. My error. Thought it would have been picked up on the proof. I've asked for a correction. Agreed, I should have caught it. But for what it's worth, I'm not trying "to make my living" by writing. Just trying to contribute to the debate.

No offense intended. I hope it doesn't detract from the main point of the essay.

FRegards.
Mitch
43 posted on 02/23/2003 8:51:23 PM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: mitchbert; freeasinbeer; sam_paine
BTW, this was originally a vanity post here on FR. It was not an essay for money or publication when it was written. I would hope that counts for something, at least, eh.
44 posted on 02/23/2003 9:02:33 PM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: freeasinbeer
BTTT
45 posted on 02/23/2003 9:11:30 PM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: freeasinbeer
I love YOUR tagline... says it all :-)
46 posted on 02/23/2003 9:25:57 PM PST by Tamzee (There are 10 types of people... those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: mitchbert
Mitch... YOU wrote this?? It is SOOOOO WONDERFUL!!!!!! Sorry... I'm awestruck. This is one of the best essays I've read about the situation and I for one appreciate your taking the time and energy to put it together. I've been waiting to hear someone say exactly what you did. I thought it WAS by a professional writer and pulled off a news site. I saved it to give to my folks to read and also email around to my friends, hope that is okay?

THANK you for posting this for us :-)

47 posted on 02/23/2003 9:32:15 PM PST by Tamzee (There are 10 types of people... those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: freeasinbeer
Excellent essay bump.
48 posted on 02/23/2003 9:38:35 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: mitchbert
Hey, no offense taken! I think it is a great editorial, that is why I posted it! Kudos Mitchbert!!!
49 posted on 02/23/2003 9:45:59 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conservative by 40, you have no brain.)
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To: Tamsey
All credit must go to Sir Winston Churchill. This quote is originally his, shortened slightly to fit into the FR tagline.

FRegards!!

50 posted on 02/23/2003 9:48:47 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conservative by 40, you have no brain.)
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