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Tennessee Family With Nine Members on Active Military Duty
WKRN.COM ^ | 2/23/03 | Melissa Penry

Posted on 02/23/2003 1:45:55 PM PST by GailA

Tennessee Family With Nine Members on Active Military Duty

Reporter: Melissa Penry

A Tennessee family could field a baseball team with the number of members is has on notice for active duty. It's become something of a family tradition to serve in the military.

"Well, there's Dewey and Ted and Steve, Chris and Jim."

You'll forgive any little pause Lucille Konig makes - her list is long.

"The grandkids is Kyle and Johnny, Dean and Nathan and Jeremy and Jarrett."

This 81-year-old Lawrence County woman is counting off her offspring about to serve their country. There are, after all, nine of them called up for active duty, with two already serving.

"It's sad and I miss 'em, but there's only one thing I found out I can do about it, and that is completely turn it over to the Lord," said Lucille.

Lucille Konig has had a lot of practice.

"Gene and dean, the two oldest ones, went in the Marine Corp."

All of her boys have served in at least one branch of the military over the years.

"They just love it and they love being together."

"It's the same thing I guess which keeps us here. All ten of us lives in these houses, right. I mean, we're right here," said Dean Konig.

"Ted lives straight across in this house."

All within sight of their mom.

"The grandchildren are going now."

Which means the daughters in the family, now mothers themselves, resound a familiar theme.

"I worry about them, but they're going to be okay because they're doing what they want to do. They want to serve their country," said Ernestine Curtis.

The brothers figure all told, together they have served more than 300 years in the military.

By the way, at last count, there were 123 members of Lucille Konig's family. That includes two brand new great-granddaughters born last week.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: military; tennessee
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1 posted on 02/23/2003 1:45:56 PM PST by GailA
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To: GailA
2 posted on 02/23/2003 1:48:43 PM PST by EggsAckley (nuke the gay whales for jesus)
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To: GailA
The Volunteer State.
3 posted on 02/23/2003 1:49:38 PM PST by TADSLOS
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To: GailA
While I pray for the safe return of every one of these brave people, I have to comment on one irony: Southerners send a vastly disproportionate number of their youth to fight in America's wars. Often, these wars are formented by a federal govt that treats the South and its people with nothing but contempt. The elites in DC who are encouraging this war no doubt view the people of such places as Tennessee as ignorant rednecks. These same elites would never dream of having their own kids serve in the military and are perfectly willng to allow the hicks of the South to do the fighting and dying.

I guess my one point is this: the people of the South should be a lot more judicious in their willingness to serve the government. They should withhold their services until they, their culture, and their ancestors are given a heck of a lot more respect by our political and cultural elites than is currently the case.

4 posted on 02/23/2003 2:01:32 PM PST by quebecois
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To: quebecois
I totally disagree with you. The south is part of the United States and as such the people serve their country. This is not a north/south issue. This is an American issue.

I just finished watching Sargent York again and was deeply impressed with his love for God and love for country.

Let the southerners be patriots. Some of certainly need to.

5 posted on 02/23/2003 2:21:54 PM PST by arjay
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To: quebecois
I agree with arjay: to decline to serve, even if the conflict is a bit ... er ... conflicted, would be denying what's most admirable in the Southern culture.

The best Southern people are braver, more loyal, more patriotic, and more self-sacrificing than maybe common sense would dictate. It's not a calculation, it's a witness.

Tennessean bump!
6 posted on 02/23/2003 2:42:35 PM PST by Tax-chick
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Re: The Volunteer State.

Good old Tennessee! We Texicans 'preciate all them good folks who gave us a hand in the Revolution, the Lost Cause and this current fix.

Go Vols!

7 posted on 02/23/2003 2:47:36 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Crockett would be proud.
8 posted on 02/23/2003 2:50:29 PM PST by TADSLOS
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Re: Crockett would be proud.

So would Old Hickory and Sgt. York.

9 posted on 02/23/2003 2:52:40 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: GailA
...With this Hero Family at Risk in -Time of War-...

.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Armed Services Committee..
10 posted on 02/23/2003 2:53:53 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965
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To: quebecois
The small towns and hamlets all across America are sending its sons to this war.

A bus full of young men circled a small town in Nebraska so that the townspeople could pay respects to its sons who are now in an undisclosed location to fight this war.

Western states are experiencing over 75 percent of their units being called up.

How I honor these young soldiers who are willing to see beyond the years and are willing to serve our nation -- while those who are blind, rant.

11 posted on 02/23/2003 2:59:05 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: Tax-chick
"The best Southern people are braver, more loyal, more patriotic, and more self-sacrificing than maybe common sense would dictate. It's not a calculation, it's a witness."

Thank you for that statement. Being a life long Alabamian, every one of us is that way...almost to a fault. We don't question...we just do! I never want to live anywhere else!

12 posted on 02/23/2003 3:00:03 PM PST by FreepLady
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To: EverOnward
I don't doubt the patriotism of those young men for one moment. I served in the US military for over a decade, including a deployment for that wonderful nation building exercise in Somalia. I know, first-hand, what they are going through.

But my comments were made in a different direction: the extent to which many of us need to be more judicious in the ways and extent that we serve "our government". The US govt has been engaging in a variety of policies that are overtly hostile to the culture and dignity of the broad white middle and working class (especially in the south). The govt permits legalized racial discrimination against us. The govt is allowing mass third world immigration to occur that is literally dispossessing us of our patrimony. The govt is encouraging educational doctrines that are overtly antagonistic to our culture and history (multiculturalism, etc). And, worst of all, the elites have been incubating a philosophy that looks down upon us as "trailer trash" etc.

Despite all of this, these same elites look to us when the time comes for a war to be fought. They, of course, would never send their little guys and dolls into the military. And, of course, they have global ambitions that must be won by military force. So they seem to be perfectly at peace with the idea that the very same people whom they smear and demean will always be on hand to do their fighting.

It just seems to me that they take a hell of a lot for granted.

13 posted on 02/23/2003 3:28:35 PM PST by quebecois
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To: GailA
Yes, God bless them all. Brave, courageous, strong, mighty, intelligent, caring, dutiful and Americans! Wow, what a contrast to the hollywood and music crowd. Yipes...makes my skin crawl to even think of the hollywood and music crowd. Boy, they are digging themselves into a hole they will not climb out of. OH well, stupid is as stupid goes.
14 posted on 02/23/2003 3:37:54 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: GailA
Back in my hometown there's a family where every male for 3 generations (by my count 9 total) has been in the Marines except one. He went into the Air Force and his dad was seriously pissed! My high school graduating class in 1987 had about half of the males end up in the military of one form or another. This is in Oregon BTW, otherwise known as the "Left Coast". Of course, this is in a (former) fishing and logging community nowhere near the Peoples Republic of Portland.
15 posted on 02/23/2003 4:23:24 PM PST by Tailback
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To: FreepLady
My husband is looking for work, and I told him, "I don't think we can live anywhere that people don't say, 'Yessir, yes ma'am, and y'all'!"

Quebecois has a point, though, because Washington does take the South and its people for granted, and use them as cannon fodder while insulting their values.

But if we reduced our understanding our country to its self-proclaimed elites and their posturing, we would be sacrificing our own identity. The nobility of Southern people like the family in the article is that they see our country at its best, and are ready to sacrifice for that vision.
16 posted on 02/23/2003 4:27:59 PM PST by Tax-chick (Virginia, Texas, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Missouri, and other points Southron)
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To: quebecois
Re your post #13 -- sadly, you speak truth.
17 posted on 02/23/2003 4:56:15 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: Tax-chick
" deny to serve..would be to deny what is most admirable in Southern culture"

The major mistake that many in the broad middle/working class america are making is that they have not updated to the fundamental reality of contemporary america: this is not your daddies' USA.

What I mean by this is that many of us cling to the assumption that this is "our" country. "Our" ancestors discovered america, came here from europe, and carved a nation out of wilderness. "We" threw out the king and "we" created a new form of government. This worldview is based on the old america that existed before multiculturalism and mass immigration.

Failing to update one's premises is a big mistake, because it means that you are acting according to a set of beliefs that are no longer valid. This country is now a multicultural empire. "We" have no more claim to it than an illegal mexican immigrant or a H1-B guy from Pakistan. "Our" historical narrative no longer has a central place in the think otherwise is a PC crime. The new multicultural america operates as a classic empire. The central tenet of such a polity is that numerous tribal groups struggle for resources within the imperial political system (ie: they try to screw the other groups and horde resources and special treatment for themselves).

Now...what, you ask, does this have to do with the war? Plenty. The broad swath of middle america believes that this is still their country. Other groups, which long ago updated their thinking to the new america, have been working to shape this country to their benefit, at our expense. While middle america slept, the elites kowtowed to the various organized tribal groups to set up such things as affirmative action, set-asides, "race norming", mass immigration, welfare, multi-cultural education, defamation of european history, etc etc etc.

Now that the empire is threatened, the vast swath of middle america is dutifully marching off to war without asking too many questions. This is "old-think".

In order to survive and prosper in the "new" america, middle america must learn quickly how the game is played. If the DC elites want to fight this war, and do it with a very disproportionately Southern military, then a few "concessions" are in order:

1) An immediate end to affirmative action/set-asides, etc

2) The restoration of freedom of association

3) The restoration of the battle flag on national civil war monuments.

4) An immediate end to H1-B visas

5) Militarization of the Mexican border.

If the elites, who desperately want this war, were presented with the demands as the price for Southern participation in this war......what could they do? The military machine would literally never get off the ground without the sons of the south. Why should they fight for a country that is discriminating against them and dispossessing them?

If the elites don't like it, then they can:

1)not have their war

2) send their own kids to fight

3) send a military comprised of illegal mexicans and urban blacks...and see how well that goes.

In any case, competition in a multcultural empire is a very serious thing. The political process determines who prospers and who suffers. You have to be willing to extract a price when you have the goods. There is no room for sentimental altruism.

18 posted on 02/23/2003 5:50:06 PM PST by quebecois
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To: quebecois
You're right, right, right, right :-), but I have to disagree with you, reluctantly ...

There is no room for sentimental altruism

Yes, there is. There is room for a worldview that is bigger than, "What is my personal best interest in this situation?"

Admitting that you're right about the direction our country has taken, we also have to ask, "What's the realistic better choice?" It's not as if there's a ticket window where 2 million Southern Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines can all line up and say, "We're not doing this any more, unless you give us (1,2,3,4,5 from your list above)." There's no mechanism for the quid pro quo that you envision.

My husband, the Rome enthusiast, is just now pointing out that if we, like classical Rome, decide that, because our society is deeply flawed, we're not going to defend it, then we get what we deserve. Sure, it's not that great of a situation. Theodore Roosevelt's son died in WWI. Where are the sons of today's leaders? Probably in colleges that are moral cesspools and educational frauds ...

But that doesn't mean that somebody doesn't have to defend our country against the Islamofascists ... not because it's perfect, but because it's the best thing available. It's not like we can all jump ship and go to France "-). We can only defend what we have, and work to make it better.

And if it happens, if we don't go down the toilet like Rome, it will be because of the South, and the people in Oregon, and "from north California and south Alabam', and little towns all around this land ..." (Hank Jr.)

And if we give up what's best about us as Southerners, we've got nothing left but tripe and chitlins! I'll take Middle Eastern food first!

19 posted on 02/23/2003 6:42:17 PM PST by Tax-chick
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To: Tax-chick
"there is room for a worldview that is bigger than 'what is my personal best interest in this situation?"

Ah, my little missed a very important point. I am not advocating disinterested self-absorption or mercenary exploitation. What I AM suggesting is that we must update our views as to WHERE OUR LOYALTIES SHOULD BE FOCUSED.

My thesis here is that we should not be acting blindly in the best interests of the american nation-state, since this nation-state no longer belongs exclusively to us (and, I would argue, we are way down on the totem pole).

Our loyalties should lie with our cultural brethern. For the purposes of this thread, that means Southerners. From this perspective, our interactions with the feds should rest on the assumption: what is in the best interest of my fellow southerners?

Clearly, the feds no longer give undivided allegiance to the broad swath of white middle class america. Southern whites, even less so. That being the case, why should southerners give the feds their undivided loyalty? Why be cannon fodder for those who hold you in contempt?

This philosophy is profoundly different than pure individualistic self-absorption which your reply implies is the goal of my advocacy. That burning loyalty which drives the sons of the south to fight for the flag would be better spent if it were utilized in service of those who appreciate and respect the sacrifice.

20 posted on 02/23/2003 6:57:36 PM PST by quebecois
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