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To: RightWhale
I agree human cloning should be banned. On the other hand, I think organ cloning is acceptable - think of how our lives could be saved if an organ in our body was failing and we needed a transplant. No more risk of rejection or being put on a waiting list only to die cause a matching donor wasn't available. There's a difference between making carbon copies of us as human beings and making carbon copies of our body parts for the purpose of saving our lives should the need arise for it. We can and should establish conditions under which organ cloning can be facilitated without opening the door to human cloning in the future.
8 posted on 02/27/2003 2:26:57 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
You assert that 'organ cloning' is acceptable. Can science take stem cells from your body and grow a replacement organ for your body without conceiving an individual clone of you from whom (the clone) they would take the cells to grow the organ? Either you have misunderstood the term 'clone' or you are being purposely deceptive. The term clone is defined as conceiving a unique close copy of the INDIVIDUAL from whom the nuclear material is taken. Be honest, are you asserting that somatic nuclear transfer is okay as long as the tissues/organs of the individual so conceived are taken from that embryonic individual human life not allowing that individual human clone to age to the point of birth? Are you relying on obfuscation to achieve tacit acceptance of conceiving new individual humans from whom you feel it is okay to harvest organs and tissues as long as the individual life is not allowed to be life supported to birth?

You opened your yapper to defend this cannibalism, now be honest. If you think taking cells from your body and growing a replacement organ for you, without cloning a reproduction copy of you, is cloning organs, you are sadly uninformed. Such an action is not cloning because by definition cloning is reproduction of you, creating an identical twin, for killing and harvesting or to be life supported to birth. You either need to get your science facts straight or be honest with readers.

11 posted on 02/27/2003 3:23:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: goldstategop
In the interest of apologizing to you, if that is warranted, I would respectfully ask if your notion of organ cloning has in it a stage whereby a cloned embryo is harvested for stem cells. If not, I would respectfully ask that you direct me to the research where such is being accomplished without the embryonic stage. And if organ cloning is accomplished sans embryo cloning with stem cell harvesting from a cloned embryo, I apologize profusely to you and to hocndoc.

This is getting series, fellow freepers.

70 posted on 03/02/2003 2:50:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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