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Gadgets Get Sales Callers Through (Telemarketers find way around TeleZapper, Caller ID)
Charlotte Observer ^ | Fri, Feb. 28, 2003 | JIM KRANE

Posted on 02/28/2003 8:31:29 AM PST by Between the Lines

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To: templar
I pick up the phone and say hello. If I get no response within a reasonable time (about half a second), I hang up.

Having an unlisted number helps a lot but is not foolproof. If it wasn't for my need for the mainframe connection, I would not even have a land line.
22 posted on 02/28/2003 9:15:47 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: Between the Lines
One thing that bothers me about these Do Not Call lists is that all the entities that are excepted from the law - charities, politicians, pollsters - now have a convenient database to use.

The Do-Not-Call list for them becomes a ready-made call list.

Telemarketers are scum - and there are no exceptions to THAT.
23 posted on 02/28/2003 9:20:58 AM PST by The Clemson Tiger
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To: Between the Lines
I just love picking up the phone and finding out it's a telemarketing call. I put the phone down on the table and continue on with whatever I was doing. After 1 minute or so, I put the phone back on the hook.
24 posted on 02/28/2003 9:23:13 AM PST by Fury
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To: Peace4EarthNow
True but, this is the free market at work. After these boxes are generally available, the carriers will come up with with something else to thwart these things. Oh - and you can be sure they will charge you for it.

One other point - I have found that our caller ID identifies 99% of these unwanted calls when it come up either "Out of Area" or, "Unknown". We either dont answer it, if we answer it,we promptly hang up. If you do answer and get that dead air you hear before someone actually talks, its a device which routes your picked up call to the next available slug who can talk to you. Just hang up if no one acknowledges your "hello?"

25 posted on 02/28/2003 9:31:27 AM PST by capydick (The triumph of evil is short)
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To: Between the Lines
For 29.95 you, yes even you, can eliminate answering those pesky calls. And this device has been around for decades. It's called an answering machine. I haven't been bothered by telemarketers, old girlfriends, nosey relatives or inquisitive neighbors in 30 years.
26 posted on 02/28/2003 9:42:58 AM PST by kellynla (Once a Marine...)
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To: turmeric
buh bye, newbie...don't call us, we'll call you! Go find a real job.
27 posted on 02/28/2003 9:45:01 AM PST by NautiNurse (Usama bin Laden has produced more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: Between the Lines
to protect them are the type who can not say no to a salesman.

I don't even give them a "no." I just hang up.

28 posted on 02/28/2003 9:46:56 AM PST by angkor
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To: Between the Lines
I have been annoyed more with junk-mail.

Anything that has a pre-paid postage envelope I mail back to them,with all the junk they just sent to me(after removing anything with my name on it)

I'm averaging 8-10 returns a week.

29 posted on 02/28/2003 9:47:39 AM PST by Mears
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To: Fury
I just love picking up the phone and finding out it's a telemarketing call. I put the phone down on the table and continue on with whatever I was doing. After 1 minute or so, I put the phone back on the hook.

YES! This is exactly the right approach! If everyone did this, it would put an end to telemarketing overnight. When people just hang up the phone, it takes up 5 seconds of the telemarketers time. When you just put the phone down, or keep them on the line, it takes up much more. This is time that they are not calling someone else. If everyone did this, so much of their time would be consumed, without making sales, that it would put them out of business!

30 posted on 02/28/2003 9:56:58 AM PST by killjoy
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To: turmeric; NautiNurse
LOL. What grade are you in?
Seriesly(you read that right), answering machines are quite useful for telemarketers.
If a number doesn't show up on caller id, I let the machine get it. They generally don't leave messages unless it's a recorded one.
I do like some posters' idea of wasting their time by stringing them along.
That's if you also have the time to waste.
Cheerio.
31 posted on 02/28/2003 9:57:20 AM PST by babaloo999
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To: babaloo999
One of my personal favorites is to ask for the caller's name, wait for a moment while they dive into their monologue, then in my most sultry voice, "[Caller name], what color underwear do you have on today?"
32 posted on 02/28/2003 10:14:53 AM PST by NautiNurse (Usama bin Laden has produced more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: Between the Lines
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33 posted on 02/28/2003 10:15:50 AM PST by I Am Not A Mod
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To: babaloo999
That's if you also have the time to waste.

Not true, takes almost the same amount of time. Just set the phone down on the counter, come back about a minute later and then hang it up. You just took up probably 1000% more of their time then if you just hung up the phone initially. That is 10 people that didn't just get called during that time period.

34 posted on 02/28/2003 10:25:03 AM PST by killjoy
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To: babaloo999
answering machines are quite useful for telemarketers. If a number doesn't show up on caller id, I let the machine get it.

I use this system, and I can't remember the last time I had to talk to a telemarketer.

35 posted on 02/28/2003 10:46:44 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Between the Lines
"telemarketers attempt 104 million calls a day... just to lafroste's home phone. Only Heaven knows what the total number really is", he was quoted as saying.
36 posted on 02/28/2003 10:48:42 AM PST by lafroste
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To: Between the Lines
Ain't the internet grand.

Here is a little information I got off the web on Castel Inc. The company that is making the anti-telezapper equipment.

Castel
100 Cummings Center
Suite 157H
Beverly, MA 01915

Phone: 978.236.1000
Fax: 978.236.1197
E-mail: info@castel.com

Maybe someone can find out who the owner or board memebers of this distinguished company are and what their personal email or home addresses are. With that information we can do like they did to that junk mail guy. He is supposedly the junk mail king. His company was responisble for a lot of the junk mail you get everyday. Seems some folks found out his home address and started signing him up for everything. He started getting about 100 pieces of junk mail a day. Give them a taste of their own medicine.

As it stands now, I think I'm gonna do like the guy in the straw hat in the Budweiser commercial.

Telemarketer: How are you this evening?
Me: Just fine, thanks for asking. You sound real friendly, where are ya from? Cause ya know, I'm from California, but originally from Illinois. It's real nice here, doesn't get as cold in the winter as it does in Illinois. I remember one winter, I think it was in '67, well we got so much snow....

Gotta remember to keep track of how long I can keep them on the line and report back.

Best regards

Sergio
37 posted on 02/28/2003 10:56:09 AM PST by Sergio (Thinking of something witty to say.)
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To: Paul Atreides
This is actually illegal in CA. The way they get around that is that they do a "press 1 for more info" at the end of the spiel instead of giving a number to call back. Check with your state PUC.
38 posted on 02/28/2003 11:08:06 AM PST by jiggyboy
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To: turmeric
you are a communist. we have a right to make money and earn a living by selling products. why dont you move to canada?

turmeric signed up 2003-02-27

LOL!! You're off to a great start, Newbie!

39 posted on 02/28/2003 11:08:27 AM PST by Peace4EarthNow
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To: MizSterious
Yep, that's the ultimate stopper. Anybody who knows me knows by now that the answering machine is *always* on, even if we just finished talking.
40 posted on 02/28/2003 11:10:03 AM PST by jiggyboy
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